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Fred Morin is a James Beard Award–nominated culinary adventurist and proprietor of the beloved restaurant, Joe Beef in Montreal.
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Oyster is a great thing to eat. We should eat more oysters. She more clams Florida oddly is an amazing sustainable seafood scene, you know, just the work that they do With the the Florida stone crab, right, you know that every year they just harvest like the left arm And they put the crab back and the next year it's the right arm and they put the crab back really Yeah, it's a brilliant fishing industry. That is they don't kill the animal the claw grows back Right and it's and they all fit nicely on the plate all side by side I don't like that you're telling me something good about Florida They have a great shrimping scene a great you there. They're actually leaders in sustainable seafood Well, the seafood and fishing is such a gigantic part of their economy. It makes sense that they would do that That's a smart thing. Yeah, they were fishing down there as a giant giant part of their there's a Good book that was published a few years ago the big oyster. I think Mark Kolinsky He wrote a book history of oyster. Yeah, the New York in the history of the oyster that's incredible super interesting because his his thing was like You know We try to portray our history as like glorious and we heard it by since before for protein and that's how we started Like modern farming but in fact, we probably farmed oysters and snails and clams because they don't move and they're the most prolific and the most Abundant source of protein. Karlansky in that book kirlansky brings up a premise and I'm loosely interpreting it now because I read this book a few years ago, but Think of this for a second right the island of Manhattan Is a perfect all the rivers around it all the water systems around it is actually one of the greater oyster situations on the Atlantic East Coast, right The reason that the population exploded in Manhattan in the early days Was that any person could literally get off a boat walk on to the island of Manhattan? homeless broke and Sleep in an alley and walk down to the river and pick five oysters a small oysters five grams of protein Right a medium oysters got 10 grams of protein So a completely destitute person could just eat six oysters a day You know three oysters and live again another day to find a job So the population ultimately, you know, New York City and its population was based on this readily This huge supply of oysters Wow. Yeah, that wasn't free Available source of protein that will make you live another 24 hours So if it takes you three days to find a job four days to find a job 20 days to find a job You're not gonna die because there's oysters. Look at this. And yeah, and they they found always from Harlem River Yeah, there's actual islands that they thought were like Geological formation that are made of oyster shells this layers and layers of oyster shells The article that Jamie put up is from Thrillist. Is that what it's from pull up to the top So I could tell people the art of the neighbors why oysters are ridiculously important to the history of New York City and It's just showing all these ancient photos of mounds of oyster shells. There's an amazing program today, you know some of the areas that There's a they take these giant cages one oyster if I'm correct one oyster filters Four metric tons of water per day from what I understand. I might be wrong with my math so take this for instance, you know a cage a caged box of Thousands of oysters there it is. There's a single oyster can filter about 30 to 50 gallons of water every day New York's waterways are exactly cleanest the folks behind the billion oyster project are trying to change that by recycling shells from the Partnering restaurants and getting them back in the water to build oyster reefs The goal is to add a billion oysters to the water by 2035 so far. They restored one point. Oh one acre 1.5 acres of reefs what don't say 1.05 bitch you got an acre Oh, that's you just adding those extra two numbers 1.05 acres of reefs and count 11.5 million newly grown oysters, but the oyster will clarify the water It'll make a murky river clear again Wow Effect the taste of the oyster. They don't eat those oysters I think those are pulled back into landfill after or mulched into gardens or for the shells again to report for more reefs But the oyster is interesting it doesn't move right an oyster it opens its shells to feed showing how they do it This is incredible and the oyster You know that the oyster has a it will change gender according to the density of the population So it'll go from male to female in order to balance the other color. That's incredible We're watching a video where the what is it the oyster recovery was it say it was the time lapse? Oh, sorry, so it's a time lapse, but it said what does it say it was from a strip filtration, right? But there was a watermark on the video there in the corner. It was showing Yeah Oyster recovery partners. Yeah, so the watermark is so what they do is they have this horrible green water They chuck these oysters in and it turns it completely clear. That's amazing. I did not know that I did know that they used to eat lobsters and they thought of lobsters as poor people food sure Yeah, I'm out of the river the rich get a ceremony. Yeah in New Brunswick they used to harvest the lobsters to feed to the prisoners and Keep the shells as fertilizer You just person was one of the first presidents to bring the lobster into the White House because it was seen as a servant's food Why did it switch? Jefferson so when he started doing that that's what we realized it was so delicious. No, that's what the lobster So she'll be if we change the whole thing Insane that lobster spaghetti that's that's off the charts, you know, so the child labor laws were in stored Primarily because of the kids that used to work in oyster shucking plants. Really? Yeah. Yeah We had a one of our best friend if not our best friend passed away like six months ago, John bill He was a great chucker. He helped us at the bar, but he's like deep into Sustainability and history of oysters and everything and he was like the source for oysters for everything. He wrote a beautiful book Yeah, I will send you a copy. It's an incredible book They're a good food for vegans to consider too because they're more primitive than most plants Yeah, most mollusks John used to call them ocean cupcakes Well, they're delicious it's a great source of protein but it's also they don't have any nerve endings and they're not feeling anything It's a sea vegetable. Yeah, it basically is we have an issue or some people not myself But some people have an issue with things that are capable of moving. Yeah, like for whatever reason We just decide that don't eat that But if you want to talk about something sustainable like mollusks and seafood, I mean they can be commercially farmed They actually do have a positive impact as you're describing on the environment incredible source of protein as well Yeah, yeah, and really a complete source of protein not like a very bioavailable source unlike a lot of vegetable proteins