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Fred Morin is a James Beard Award–nominated culinary adventurist and proprietor of the beloved restaurant, Joe Beef in Montreal.
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David McMillan is a James Beard Award–nominated culinary adventurist and proprietor of the beloved restaurant, Joe Beef in Montreal.
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We're absolutely not meant to live piled on top of each other within you know 10 million of us in a square mile in the island of Manhattan, you know, yeah absolutely Do you remember when there was the floods in Manhattan? Yes all the money in the world Couldn't get you out. Right you had to walk across the Brooklyn Bridge to leave Manhattan. Yeah with everybody else. Yeah, you know Yeah, and there was a word real worried because of climate change that was gonna be happening every year now people like is this the new Normal, I'm a Shane Smith at some piece on chain at the walkout. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Shane had to walk out and but he had some piece on vice where they were detailing the inside of his Apartment building like the fucking thing was completely flooded like six feet high and water You know and people were weren't worried like this is going to be what's happening on a regular basis now This climate change thing has changed. I've heightened sense of you know, since the three kids I it's something that I think about it's something that I have ready, you know, I bought a generator I have yeah I checked the batteries the rechargeable batteries for all of the equipment that I have I own solar panels I own the duffel bag full of everything that I need to throw in the back of my pickup truck Grab my kids and I know which way to drive away from the city to go to the cabin Yeah, it's something I've planned just because I'm the ward of these small humans whom I love. Yeah You know, it's funny Well, you talked about like restriction again and and and the thing just I'm thinking of preparing, you know And the most common thing that people prepare is food, you know, and they prepare cans and cans and cans of food But still they eat so much of that food that the best way to prepare The best way to prepare would be to start to eat less and learn how to live at 1700 calories you know and learn how to live with the people around you because if you're gonna spend like two months in a Bunker or in a bug out location or whatever You're not some like asshole to your kids and your friends and the family and people with you One of the things that happens to people this is really fascinating When when disasters do strike because everyone gets a lot friendlier, you know And this is one thing that I've experienced myself this week because when we got evacuated It was 230 in the morning on Thursday and there was fire rocks throw from my house And I'm not talking a little bit of fire. I'm talking just hundreds of acres of fire I mean it was just roaring over we started to see houses It started seeing the gas lines explode houses burst into flames And it was right down the street So we're seeing this and you know, we're we're we got outside. We're in the driveway the neighbors come over everyone's talking What are you gonna do? I go we're getting the fuck out of here And he's like have they given the evacuation orders? I said no we haven't but I go it's right there, man I go we got to go I go if it if we're wrong and we come back and the house is still here That's okay, but you want to get out of these things quickly because they can turn south quickly but there was a sense of camaraderie and Community that that happens and then quite a few of us all went to the same hotel Including my friend Tom Segura and his wife and his family went to this hotel too with some of my friends from this neighborhood We're all there huddled in together and but there was there wasn't people were a little extra friendly There was a and this is like there was the same kind of feeling after 9-11 when I was in New York City There was people a little bit more friendly. We felt that during the ice storm back in the day people were like assessing The street that we live on and then they go well who's got a wood-burning stove? They go Oh Roger does come over and then people would go to Rogers house and all of a sudden all these neighbors that just wave At each other were all at Rogers house by the wood-burning stove Going back to the houses to get blankets planning sleeping arrangements planning food arrangements and Assessing each other giving each other their personal space and learning how to speak to each other in a respective matter that we might Have to do this for several days Yeah, do the best through tragedy a sense of community was built somewhat Reinforced for a brief moment in time. Yeah, which made going back to our regular lives on that street better Yeah, you know, yeah. Yeah, if you ever read us a bastion younger's tribe No, it's a great book and he kind of talks about that about how in part Situations of extreme stress and when people are really pushed Those people bond together and they find that these are the happiest times of their life people that even go to war They find that they miss the camaraderie of the bunker. They meant the mist that Being in the trenches they miss the camaraderie of being together huddled up not knowing what's gonna happen in the future But counting and depending upon each other for their very lives. That's a thing that happens in very very very busy kitchens Yeah, you know a bunch of no education guys out of cooking school working a difficult Restaurant line, you know, we're working six guys on six four-burners struggle every night a Difficult menu with a difficult chef and a very busy restaurant Though those those hours, you know from 6 p.m. Till 10 p.m. At night Like it's intimate. It's intimate. Like, you know, you're bending over to get into the stove to get a chick out I'm grabbing something out of the fridge. My nose is in your butt. Your nose is in my butt, you know I need your knife. You need my knife It's very very very close quarters often like some of my strongest Relationships some of his strongest relationships are you know, the bond that I've built with guys that I've cooked on lines whether in Europe or here are Unbreakable, you know, this guy's got your back Tony talked a lot about that, you know Yeah, I think people are better off when they're struggling. Yeah, I really do I mean, I think they're better off when they're there they're you know when life creates challenges and there's there's things to overcome and there's difficulties to get through and There's real pressure involved in these and there's physical activity involved in these pressures as well. That's me rowing on the galley Yeah, the centurion and the cat anine tails looming over you