Joe Rogan Reacts to Mike Tyson’s Return to Boxing

All these old boxers coming back. Avander Holyfield is coming back now too. What? Yes. Have you seen the Mike Tyson video? He's like 65. Mike Tyson's coming back. What? Yes. You haven't seen? Dude. No. Okay. Go to Mike Tyson's page for his most recent video on his Instagram. Get ready for this. Really? Get ready for this. Because he looks fucking sensational. What is he, 55? 53. 53. I think. Yeah. I think he's a year older than I am. I'm 52. But he looks fucking incredible. Really? Terrifying. Dude. He was so terrible. But wait. Was there anything more exciting than his fights? They were a cultural event. Oh my god. Yeah. So exciting. The only concern was that you were going to spend money and you weren't going to get it back. Look at this. Right. You needed volume so you can hear this too. Whoa. I mean, what in the fuck, dude? Oh my god. Dude. He looks like old... I'm back. I'm back. You know what's really funny? Oh my god. He said on the podcast when he was in here, he said he didn't want to work out again because his ego would get fired up again. Uh-huh. And he's actually said that in his post that my ego had been reignited. Does that mean his rage? No. See if you can find it. That his ego would be... There's a... He said... Because he's like being Zen and doesn't want to... He gave a statement about it saying that like his ego has been reignited. Ah. Good for him. Yeah. Good for us. He said something about how the gods of war have brought him out again. It was like really heavy-duty shit. I think it's a real recent. Real recent. Wow. See if you can find the quote. But it was like, oh my god. When you were with him... The gods of war have reignited my ego. Oh my god. And I'm ready to go again. Yeah. He's going to fight. Do you think... How do you think he'd fare against it? I think... A 28-year-old. I don't know. It depends on the 28-year-old. But I think that you for sure need a guy who's really good at fighting to keep him off you. Yeah. Even if you're in your 20s. Right. Here. Mike Tyson explains his desire to fight again. I feel unstoppable now. The gods of war have reawakened me. And he said something about his ego firing up. See if you can find that quote. He was so deadly. Because that was one of the things that he actually talked about in the podcast. Yeah. The gods of war have awakened me. They've reignited my ego. And want me to go to war again. Holy shit. That's so terrifying. That's so terrifying. That's great. Here's the thing man. If they don't drug test him. Uh-huh. They don't test him for hormones. Yeah. Things are way different. What do you mean? Because if he takes hormones. If he's taking like testosterone and growth hormone, thyroid hormone. All the things that people do when they take hormone replacement therapy. Your body functions way better at a way later age. It's different. It's very different. So if we're talking about like being a 53 year old man in 1985. There's no chance. Right. Everybody fell apart. Like you'd have to like be a really really really rare person who doesn't take hormones and can perform like a 30 year old in your 50s. But when you're on hormones you can kind of do it. There's like a guy. There's a few guys that were in the UFC. One of the bigger examples is Vitor Belfort. Vitor Belfort who's a phenomenal fighter. A real legend. He was in the first. He won the first tournament that I ever worked on. That was at UFC 12 in 1997. So he was 19 years old back then. And then when he was in his late 30s he had a giant resurgence. And it was when they made testosterone replacement therapy legal for fighters. Oh. Yeah. So there was a bunch of fighters that got on these testosterone replacement therapy exemptions. And so they're taking testosterone but they had an old man's brain. But their body moved like a younger man. So it's basically they had all the experience of a lifetime of fighting. But because of the hormones their body actually performed like someone way way younger than them. Like how much younger do you think? I don't know. It depends on the body. Depends on what kind of damage you're dealing with. What's wrong with you. Yeah. Whether or not it can bring you back 10 years or five years or who knows. But yeah with these fighters the thing is they were never really out of shape. And some of them there's quite a few of them in fact. I'm not going to name any names but some of them needed those hormones because they had done steroids. So when you do steroids it shuts down your endocrine system. Your endocrine system doesn't make the proper hormones anymore. And so they needed it was a real weird sort of conundrum because everyone was kind of new this. But there was a weird loophole that went on for a few years. It was a real gray area in MMA. And so say a fighter could go to the doctor and say hey I want to get a blood test and see what my testosterone levels are because I am feeling very tired. And they look at it and they test. They go oh look at this. Your testosterone levels are low. You could take this hormone and inject it into your body every week. Now you're eligible for testosterone replacement therapy. But the thing is they might have like the whole reason why they needed it in the first place might have been that they were using it illegally. So it's a weird thing you're rewarding because the testing wasn't very good. And some of these guys that are a part of this were part of this testosterone replacement therapy thing they were ones that were kind of accused of possibly using performance enhancing drugs in the past. So then they get to use them legally. And Vtor dude I'm telling everyone in the MMA community would talk about TRT Vtor. TRT Vtor was a guy who was in his 30s he'd been fighting a long fucking time but all of a sudden he was moving like a demon again and just smashing people. You ever see him fight? No. Do me a favor pull up Vtor Belfer versus Luke Rockold because that was one of the perfect examples in their fighting. I don't know if it was in Brazil or what. But Vtor had muscles on his teeth when he was weighing in for that fight. It was crazy and he just blitzkrieged. And it was okay to do. It was legal. What he was doing was legal. And then it took a while for everybody went hey hey hey hey hey hey hey what the fuck. Hold on a minute. This is not we can't do this. And so then UFC went the whole other way and they brought in USADA. The US Anti-Doping Agency now handles everything and they randomly test fighters in the middle of the night and people get popped off all the time. Oh really? Yeah they're really strict man. Do you think they should be? Kelvin Gaslin just got popped for marijuana. They have a pretty liberal range. It's a pretty generous range that you can have. So watch this. First of all look at Vtor. He's the one in the red. Yeah. Just fucking shredded. Now watch this wheel kick. Check this out. Set it up. Bang. Dude. Jeez. Dude. Vtor when he was on the TRT was one of the scariest guys that ever lived. Up into his traps. Yeah look at him. Oh my god. Yeah dudes avoided the fuck out of him. Look at this wheel kick. Oh god. Dude. It's like a pit bull. Oh my goodness. He looked like a demon. He looked like a neeman back then. There's a few of his fights from that era that were just absolutely terrifying. Do you think that it should be that strict against these drugs in the fighting? It should. Yes. Yeah it's not for your health. I take testosterone replacement. I think for your health it's a good move when you get older. It makes your body work better. But for fighting there's a weird gray area. Like when should it be legal? You're going to let people take it after they're 45? My point is if they don't test Tyson and Holyfield and all these guys for testosterone replacement and growth we might see some crazy shots. We might see some great fights. Some funny paper. I do not know. Maybe he's not on anything and maybe he's just a special athlete. Lord knows Herschel Walker was. Herschel Walker was a guy who fought in strike force after he played in the NFL and was really successful. It was terrifying. Like people were avoiding him. People that were like lifelong martial artists were like fuck that guy because he was a super athlete. Obviously Mike Tyson was a super athlete when he was young. No one when they're 20 usually can move like that. And here he is 53 moving like a world champ throwing bombs. Again it's only on the pads. We don't know what happens if you've spars. But still you have to. Like the praying mantis if he makes the first move he's going to rip your head off. You have to look at that and go look look look. Let's not get crazy. Look how fast he's going. Look how scary he is. That's what makes us think of Mike Tyson when he was in his prime. Oh when he'd come out no socks. Oh my god. Just those leathers. My favorite ever was the Marvis Frazier fight because it was really like an execution. Yeah. It was Marvis Frazier also was like a really good fighter and was Joe Frazier's son. And you knew what was going to happen. Aim like 20 seconds. Tyson was just he was a different thing. Yeah. He just came into the ring. Yeah. We'd never seen a boxer like him before. No. Where it was just like every fight was an execution. It was brutal. Brutal. No frills. No nothing. No socks. No robe most of the time. Yeah. Just come into the ring. Sometimes he had a towel around his neck. Sometimes he didn't even have that. God. He wasn't going to be there long. No man. And you would see the look in the guy's eyes when he would see him across the ring like oh my god what the fuck did I sign up for. So exciting. When you were with him when he was here. Do you feel like this is still a menacing physical guy or did you feel like. Well he's real nice. Yeah. He's a real nice guy but he's still. But does he still have that you know guys that are we're tough in their youth you still feel that thing. Oh yeah but he's terrifying. Yeah. Yeah. Who said it passed. What was the UFC fighter that was saying like it's like hanging out with a oh was it Kevin Lee. I think it was Kevin Lee. Yeah. It was Kevin. It sounds like something Kevin would say. It's like he goes it's like you're next to a lion. Right. And he's like oh yeah that's Mike Tyson. Like that way. Yeah. It is the perfect way to describe being around him. Perfect. You just want him to like you. You want to be nice to him and you all be cool. Be cool. You can't believe he's here. Yeah. No he's here. No it's like a mythical figure sitting next to you. Did he ask me about fighting like what about what did I ever do and I've never felt more like a fraud in my life. I'm the worst. Just tell me about the stupid shit that I did. I did a little Taekwondo tournaments. Yeah. Had a couple kickboxing fights. I felt like such a bitch. I can feel it. Yeah the worst. I can feel it in the air. It's the worst. He's like a cultural icon. Yeah. You stop and think about it like from our generation. No. To be around him is like what are your real thing. You're right here. It's like being with Thor or Zeus.