Joe Rogan Reacts to 3 month Extension of LA Shelter in Place Order

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Tom Papa

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Comedian and writer Tom Papa is the host of the popular podcast "Breaking Bread with Tom Papa", and the co-host, along with Fortune Feimster, of the Netflix radio program "What a Joke with Papa and Fortune." It can be heard daily on Sirius XM.

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So, what were you just saying, Jamie? We have, L.A.'s stay at home order will likely remain in place for the next three months unless there is a quote, dramatic change to the virus in tools at hand, officials say. How are people supposed to feed themselves? Like, really, realistically? How do they expect this to work? You go out to work, and then you skitter back home. That's not what they're saying. That's not what stay at home means. Stay at home means you don't go to work. Yeah, but at the same time, they're opening up businesses, right? They're opening up very few businesses, and you have to get curbside for retail. I heard our governor in the state of California say that 70% of businesses are open now. Well, if that's the case, even if that was the case, let's say 30% of people are out of work. Yeah. That's catastrophic. Yeah, it's a lot. And I don't think it's true. I don't think 70% of the places are open. That's what he said, 70% of businesses. Even if they're open, they're not open at 100% capacity. Or they're probably working from home, like offices. He's probably counting offices, and those people are still working and getting paid, but they're doing it from home. So this is just L.A.? L.A. County. Just L.A., yeah. So that means, like, Comedy Store has no chance. Yeah, I believe it's for the county, yeah. So it's the biggest county. It's the biggest county. This is the same fuck-up who thought it would be a good idea to have people rat on people for money. Technically, this was not coming from the mayor. This is coming from a health, someone in the health department talking at a supervisor meeting or something. So it was a suggestion. It wasn't an official order, but it's coming, yeah. Right. So it's not an official order. Not an official order, but L.A. is the densest county in America. How about that? Is it really? Yeah. More than New York? As a county. Hmm. That seems odd, doesn't it? It does seem odd. It seems like a lot of people. It seems like New York City is denser. Yeah. New York City is, the thing about New York City that makes it great is that everybody sort of mingles together. Everybody gets on the subway together. Everybody walks together on the streets. Yeah. That's also the reason why everybody's getting sick together. Yeah. But I saw an interesting thing that the highest, this guy wrote an editorial about the reasons for New York and he lives in New York and he said, Staten Island had the highest number. This was written before, I think Brooklyn has now edged it. But at the time, that Staten Island was the highest and it was the least densely populated. And Manhattan, which is the most densely populated, had the fewer number of cases. Really? Well, I wonder if that is similar to, you know, what they're finding with people that work together or in prisons in particular. They're finding that there was this one prison they did a study on, 98% of the people were asymptomatic. Really? Yeah. 98%? Yeah, 98%. Jeez. It's nuts. That's weird. So I was bringing it up with a friend of mine and I was like, do you think this is because, my friend Kyle Kalinsky, and he was like, I think it's because their immune systems are strong because they're just interacting with each other constantly. And I was like, oh, that kind of makes sense because I was thinking, if you're in prison, you're probably stressed out and you're getting bad food. Yeah, and horrible sleep. And yet your immune system is strong. Right, because you're just being bombarded all the time. Yeah, you're being bombarded all the time by stinky, dirty people. Where if you live in an isolated, fancy place with purified air. Right. And all this... You're in a wonderful community in Brentwood. You don't see your neighbors ever. You don't go anywhere. You're very fragile. Yeah, you go to the store, you come home. And now our immune systems are... I would imagine, this is just pure speculation, but I would imagine that your immune system is like all the other systems of your body that when it gets tested, it gets stronger. Right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. So your immune system right now is being put into a state of atrophy because it's not being exposed to anything new. It's in a lounge chair. It's just chilling. It's got sunglasses on. It's got sunglasses on. Hasn't worked in years. It's got soft legs that cramp up when it goes upstairs. And all of a sudden it gets called to go to work and it's just like, dude, what? Wouldn't you imagine if that's the case? It seems like it in... Yeah. Yeah, I can imagine. We're setting ourselves up to get really sick if something comes down the pipe. Yeah, yeah. Well, that was what was very strange in the beginning of all this when people were saying that you, you know, that people just spout out, you can't do anything for your immune system. You can't make it stronger. That's nonsense. And it was like, really? Who was saying that? Just online. I did a thing with that. Really? Just like people spouting off. Yeah. Where else? It's crazy because online it's written. And when you're saying things written, you're like, wow, this must make sense. It's written. I know. It's got 150,000 likes. This has got to be real. I know. It's just Bob said it. It's just a matter of a guy like walking down the street. It's the same thing. I don't understand how we could take three more months off. I really don't. Yeah. Well, it depends what they mean by... I mean, you know, when you talk... When you hear the governor talk, it's, you know, he's moving it along and he's getting these phases and pushing it through. And it doesn't... I don't think it's going to be as I'm stammering to get the realization. I don't have a TV. I know. I don't think it's going to be like what it was in April and May and July. Why not? Because I want to go outside. I think so too. LA County beaches reopened May 13th. Yes, but you can't hang out on your lounge. You can't hang out on your towel. You got to go in... Make that larger please. Go back to where it was. You can do water sports. No lying or sitting on the sand. Right. Canopies, coolers or picnicking. Right. You can be active. You can go swim. Parking lots are closed. So where do they expect you to park? They don't want you to go. Individual family activities and exercise only. Yeah, so you can go down. You can swim. You could ride the waves and then get out of the ocean and get back in your car. No picnicking. You can't picnic. No biking. No biking. No why can't you bike? I have to say... No volleyball? You see that round circle with the slash through it with the giant canopies? Mm-hmm. Those should be banned all year. Have you ever been next to one of those on the beach? Oh, those are disgusting. Oh my God. Why are you allowed to set up camp? Building a house. Yeah, you're basically saying this is my area of the sand. Yeah. Like... Blocking everyone's view. Yeah, you can get a fucking towel. That's what you can get. You get a towel and that's it. That's how it's always been. I know. These people come down there. They've got coolers and tables higher than this. You see they have fences now? People are setting up beach fences. Oh my God. Yeah, they're selling beach fences. You set it up. You stick it in the sand and you mark off your area. Oh my God. Social distancing. We're creating dorks. This is all before social distancing. These are just people making camps there and bringing 25 people. Oh, I hate it. So, reopens tomorrow is what they're saying. Yeah, baby. Well, that's good. That's a start. I think we need to move in the other direction. I think we need to quarantine people that are at risk. That's what I think, really. And then let people make their own choices. The idea that these hospitals are going to be overwhelmed is not true. It's not correct. Luckily, we're very fortunate. And the idea that we're going to run out of ventilators, that's not true either. And then also, if that doctor that worked with Michael Yeoh was telling you this before we started, the doctor said that if he put him on a ventilator, he would die because his body would stop trying to breathe and it would just sort of give up. And this is what Michael Yeoh's doctor told him, and he survived. And then we're finding out that a lot of people they put on ventilators don't make it. And I wonder if what he's saying applies to those people. Right. Was he a special case of why they didn't want him on the ventilator? No, his doctor's just a wise guy. He's just smart and just figured it out. Wow. I mean, look, I mean, it's a weird thing to think, you know, what if we hadn't done all of these measures with the hospitals? Because the hospitals for a beat were crazy. Depends on where you are. Yeah. Like if you weren't in Queens, it was insane. Yeah, this place is where it's horrible. Yeah. So like if we hadn't done these things, what would have the result have been? It's a good question. You know, I mean, would we have achieved herd immunity? You know, or would we have achieved it quicker? You know, herd immunity is like 60% of the people have been infected. Right. Then the virus sort of dies off. Right. You know, when you look at the Spanish flu, when you look at the history of that and, you know, the places that did something fared much better than the places that didn't. The end result was, you know, all these people died. It goes through the same amount of time, but just you have a lot more fatalities, you know. And it's this it's always been this kind of calculation like, you know, people are doing the math. I feel like people are doing the math and they're saying, OK, X amount will die, but we've got to get back to work and get these people to work. And they're trying to figure out that equation. It's the suffering of the people that are probably going to survive even if they get it. Is that suffering going to be greater than the suffering for families who lose people? Right. So that's that balancing act. And you can see where people are coming out on it. Certain places are like, no, it's just time to go. And yeah, there'll be casualties, but we'll deal. And other people are saying save lives at all costs. Well, if we say save lives at all costs, we should all stop driving. I don't want to do that, too. So I can't go. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, right. There's things that are risk. This is one of those things that's a it's a uniquely human problem because there's no real answer for it, because most human problems. Yeah. Like, whoa, it's so. Hmm. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. No, right. You don't you kind of we are all isolated on this one thing. And then you stop thinking, well, we live at risk all day long. Yeah. You know, well, not only do we live at risk all day long, but we make decisions that could put ourselves at risk. And we're allowed to make those decisions. But with this, you're not allowed to make those decisions. And the idea is, well, because you put others at risk. OK. But who and why and do you know, when do we decide? Like, how long can we go on with this? If we don't have any new tools in July, what is going to be the difference between July and now? Well, that's what Fauci is saying about the fall. He's saying that, you know, there's going to be a resurgence of it in the fall. You're going to have more because it's the flu season. People are going to and you need to be prepared to with testing and stuff to to deal with this in the right way or else you're back to what we were dealing with in April and May. And that you've got to be you got to learn from it and be prepared. And it's the testing, the testing, the testing. Yeah, it just seems Elon just opened up his factory in California, the Tesla factor, and said, come to come arrest me. Right. Basically saying what you're doing is a violation of civil liberties. You're telling people that they're not allowed to go to work and that this is a fascist state. Mm hmm. See how that goes. Yeah, I kind of feel like they they're seeing like they know that they'll save lives this way. But they I mean, look, if you're the if you're the governor, right, what do you do? What do you do? I mean, you want to you want people to be safe, but you also are looking at the books every day and realizing that your state is in need of a trillion dollars to survive. Like it would be if I mean, if that's it, it might be a lot more than that. Yeah, like, you know, that's just based on what we know is active in the businesses that are open right now. Right. I mean, how many like a friend of mine was saying, how many people are unimpeded? How many people are unemployed right now? They don't even know it. Yeah. Businesses just never going to make it. Right. And then also there's going to be less people with money. So there's going to be less spending. So these are going to need some sort of a resurgence. So if you're the governor, you're not out there just to control people and take away their civil liberties because you're screwing yourself on the other end, you know, with people being broke and the economy falling apart. So you're in this in this spot. I do not envy it. Also, when you start telling people what to do, it's very difficult to stop. Once you have the ability to tell people what to do, it's very difficult to just turn that off and go, go ahead, go back to normal. Do whatever you want to do now. Right. Right. Which is what we used to do just four months ago. Right. Do whatever you want to do. Yeah. But now all of a sudden, do you see that goofy fucking list that they put out of all the stuff you can and can't do? No. It's even goofier than the list that we saw about the beaches. Oh, really? It's a fucking preposterous, this really long list that California put out of things you're allowed to do outside. You can meditate. You can do soft martial arts. You can watch the sunrise or the sunset. I mean, it's so asinine. It's just so you're getting people in this case, you're getting people that have no business telling people what to do. And all of a sudden they've been assigned this ability to tell people what they're allowed to do and not to do. Right. And so they make this gigantic, stupid fucking list. And it's really offensive. It is a weird thing. It's fucking dumb. Dan Crenshaw put something up on his Instagram, see if you can find it, where he shows what you can and can't do in this one particular list and how preposterous it is. There's a bunch of lists that different states are putting up and different states have different approaches. One thing that I do like about the fact that we are the United States of America is that different states do have different approaches and we get to watch how that experiment plays out. It is an experiment, isn't it? I'm just like, so how's Georgia? What's going on down there? Permitted. Walking, running, exercising, surfing, fishing, no chairs. Prohibited. Sunbathing. Sitting in chairs. Group sports. Groups of people. Swimming. And here's what he says, for your daily dose of things that are stupid, here you go. How many geniuses sat around and deliberated over these particulars? Okay, they can fish, but we don't want them getting any sun while they fish. And no chairs, because we are saving lives. High fives all around. He's so right. I guess this is New Jersey. OCNJ, that's New Jersey, right? Yeah, Ocean County, New Jersey. Fuck off. Yeah, fuck off with that group.