Joe Rogan on The Difficulty of Bow Hunting

Speaking of delicious, are you hunting at all? Yes. Yes. What's your hunt? Well, I mean, I'm going through the two elk that I've given away a lot of it to and I shot last year every year I scheduled two elk hunts and Assume, I'm gonna strike out and the last two years. I've been very lucky and I got two elk each year So it's breaking the rules of the secret and thinking grow rich, you know to assume you're gonna strike out Well, I supposed to sit cross-legged in your sauna and manifest that shit Yeah, I work hard but I Assume, it's a hard thing to do to fucking it is and people don't realize now They don't and you look at a clip like there's clips of me online and the clip is like a minute long and it seems Like oh look look how easy. Yeah, you don't see stalking in for hours You don't see the hundreds of hours of shooting arrows the coaching from John Dudley all the reading archery articles and Understanding what in keeping your mindset clear in the moment. It's a lot of difficult It's a long haul my boys have their first hunt in three months. What kind we've been prepping for seven months They're doing bow hunt in Kona really pig. Oh my wife. She's gonna have to sheep How old boys are going to pay the 10 so you're getting him a crossbow. No, no, they're right now. They're shooting a Hoyt ignite They're shooting at about 25 yards. Just just shooting at about 40 yards Prepping they're about 45 now, which is gonna be enough. That's enough if you have a yeah, but I mean they're still contact I mean, they're still when they when they draw their Pollens so they've still got a couple more months of training to really get dialed in But yeah, it's it's difficult I still haven't even gotten my elk bow hunting you know, I spent my last time I spent six days up in the Colorado mountain range and the the What they call the Santa de Cristo range, you know and and on the last day I finally came in on elk and It was dark and I shot and I missed And that was after seven frickin days of trying and you walk out how far was the shot your horse out completely empty handed It's about 45 yards. Yeah, I mean in dusk, but you know, I mean, you know how it goes You're shaking. It's a little dark and yeah. Yeah, um Anyways, though, so I'm gonna do I'm gonna do Kona. I would like to get you in touch with Dudley because I know I know and we've talked before I know how you show you shoot with a finger trigger. I shoot with her Fire. Yeah, I need to it's on my list But it's those moments like that when you you're hunted for six days and you just trekking through the woods 20 miles a day and you're exhausted and you finally get that one moment. There's so much weight on that moment that Yeah, it's so difficult to stay Focused entirely on the task of executing the shot perfectly and there's methods. There's a guy named Joel Turner who has He's got a website called iron mind hunting. He's a He's a he's an instructor for First responders and snipers and things along those lines iron mind iron mind where she live. I Think he's a Pacific Northwest guy really and he's helped me tremendously his his methods it's all about keeping a The difference between an open loop system and a closed loop system Being able to control it and stop it and stop the process anytime you want and keeping yourself in that Versus like a baseball bat swing which is once you start swinging you're swinging Yeah And the idea is to maintain the present and to have a mantra and he gives you a mantra to chant and to think about it In terms of controlling all of those movements. So you are in control constantly Your move well you you develop your own but the idea is to talk yourself through it Don't let your excitable mind take over. Oh, jeez. It's got both of them You freak out and you pull the trigger and you shoot fucking over the things back and you don't even know what happened What's your mantra lost? I I pull back and I say draw I go through all the steps in my head that I'm supposed to do I actually Modified his and went to John Dudley's So his he has his own one Which is draw back and aim get it done watch it to keep it and the whole idea is just keeping those things in your Head so you have one thing but what with Dudley I go through all the different things that he says like Drawback tip of the nose center the peeps center the bubble pull through the shot pull pull pull let the shot break And so I go through all those things in my mind But the whole idea is to not allow the freak out because the freak out is what causes the target panic And when you have that itchy trigger finger with the the finger trigger, you know, good and that's yeah, that's I've done it I mean, I've seen it. I've seen it. I've heard it. Everybody does it the arrow goes in the spot You know where you're yanking it and you're pulling it's not very precise You want to get it to where it's a surprise shot? Yeah, and when it's a surprise shot, you're just Concentrating entirely on the area that you want to hit on the elk your form is perfect Everything's aligned in order and if it's not you let down. Yeah, if it's not you let down and try to get your shit together Yeah, see those train to hunt competitions helped me out quite a bit. I'm sure but it's like it's like a 3d shoot But they put you running around and getting exhausted Well, no, not not really like like they're they do have part of it as like that like an obstacle course race with your bow But then part of it too is just a 3d shoot Mmm, like a like a 40 target 3d shoot where one shot might be I'm facing you But the targets behind me and you've got a 10 second time span to draw Turn and shoot where you got to take a shot Seated through the trees at 40 yards and then within you know, 20 seconds do a shot at 60 yards So they would tell you that area but Dudley would tell you that that is gonna cause target panic that that whole thing of shoot now That you should never just do that that you should always execute the shot correctly Even he doesn't even like this fucking game this thing this techno hunt that we've done He doesn't like that He thinks that that thing causes target panic because you only have a brief window and you like go it's like he believes that you should concentrate entirely on the correct fundamentals and execution of archery and then with time and Understanding of the situation the experience of hunting itself then when those moments present themselves You're gonna execute correctly Whereas when you have this like 10 second you got to turn and behind your back ready go you're like, yeah You're just gonna hit that you're gonna hammer that trigger You're gonna put that pin on the target and hammer that trigger Yeah, that's just you are emphasizing all the wrong things that you could do when you're hunting. 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