Joe Rogan on Potential #MeToo Backlash

You're full? Yeah, but that's the thing I was saying is like there's no You're not allowed to have a nuanced Right anymore. You just have you're like no I am absolutely You must believe all women. Did you see that thing? I posted the other day about it was the me to Backlash is gonna come. No, I didn't and How's it gonna come what kind of backlash the backlash is? The on the on-campus thing the basically like the Obama administration and Joe Biden Recommended these guidelines for Title 9 and And they so they recommended these guidelines for Title 9 the basically protecting women on college campuses, but the problem is They throw out due process Like literally if a guy the idea is if you're can if you get accused you're basically convicted Right guy gets accused he's thrown out of school and it's like well That's not due process. There are all these things that were like like I'd never thought about before like cuz I I Want to believe all when you know I mean like I I want to believe that if a woman I don't believe women have much reason to lie about the ship see well, that's not true I don't believe that at all because I believe there's a lot of women that have grudges and they're angry and they Want to make things up about men and I know men where that's happened to before I know men who've been Falsely accused of rape and the woman dropped it and told the police that she was just mad at him Yeah, she had a vendetta that happens. It doesn't happen a lot, right? That's what I mean I know I don't think it never actually I just think that it's a minor. I think it's just I don't know It's minor or not Anthony Kumi has said something that's really he goes he goes calling all women liars is just as crazy as saying All women to say the truth right yeah, that's true You're gonna have a certain percentage of human beings that are deceptive is why I say 97 percent of women are alive No, I think it's I mean I don't want to I don't even want to speculate about what the stats are the problem is if you're a person who didn't do Anything to someone and then they're accusing you of doing something them and then it ruins your life That's devastating and that happens that so I've been having this conversation I posted it and I put on Twitter Hey, if I'm wrong if this is wrong yell at me here Go ahead and I was surprised by how few people yelled no one really got mad because when you see what the recommendations were People believe in due process and the rule of law they should and and they people know That mob and tallities are not good, and they're not American I mean they're not the spirit of America there. They are pretty American actually, but like the they're not the letter of America and It was kind of baffling that Obama and the administration So what's happening is so guys are getting kicked out of school. They're getting you know what these they're they're the colleges are following the guidelines and and Due process is thrown away guys get you know thrown out of school Did it and then they sue the school and guess what a lot of them are winning? Yeah, because it's unconstitutional what the school did so it's this weird thing of It's such a fucking sticky situation because I was talked because after I posted a few female friends of mine texted or called me and one of them said That she was at NYU and Was having sex with a guy he tried to Put in her ass she was like no she said no he said can I she said no and He did anyway. She just froze and was like stunned frozen silent he finishes no alcohol No, it's and it just becomes he said she said mm-hmm, and it's like what what should we do in a society? About a situation like that, and I truly don't know I truly am like I have no fucking idea Mmm Well if she said no, and he did it anyway. That's a real fucking problem. Yes exactly that's rape. Yeah, that's right But what but also then it just becomes what? It's a he said she said thing right no And we better know we need you know what I mean like you real lie detectors I mean that's really the in situations like this where it's one person's word against the other and the yeah The results critical you got a I don't know if that's really possible though I mean, I don't know of anything that exists or any technology. That's on the pipeline No, there isn't so a friend of mine jokingly said that that all guys and women need to wear bodycamps Like cops yeah, yeah like that's kind of where it is because they're again It is one of these like shit I don't because it might be you kind of think like oh yeah, no it's probably it's always pretty And then you hear a thing like that you're like you know what I don't know what to but then no one's gonna Should that guy get I'm gonna be on camera right The now we're into Like because I go oh guys shouldn't get kicked out of school there should be due process of course there should be due process Then I hear a story like that and I'm like Fuck man. I don't know. I don't maybe that guy shouldn't be able to go to school. I don't know I truly I don't know So he lied and he said that didn't happen. He didn't she didn't press charges or anything. Okay? Which by the way is super common so when you take account rape the number of rapes that get reported Versus the number of rapes that don't get reported It's like it's a drop in the bucket and and when when guys go well why don't girls report it dude? You don't like going a jury duty That and that's a week You want it you think a girl wants to talk about her fucking vagina for a year and a half not just that the stigma of Running around knowing that everybody knows you were raped like yeah having that feeling where people judging you or staring at yes Talking about you for nothing that you did no nothing. It's like literally as these things happen Because you read these the a lot of the times the it feels like the choice for women is as it's happening It's like fuck. I have to make my life about this now my whole life has to be about this for at least a year and a half Cops lawyers fucking Court dates all just like a nightmare a one in a nightmare That you likely did nothing wrong right you just and now it's like getting it's like getting in a in a horrible car accident or something and and again I Don't know what the solution is because as a comic my first and being contrarian I go like well What did you what did they do? What do they do all the all the things and it's like no most of these things are Wrong place of the wrong time with a piece of shit. Yeah, yeah, I mean Due process is significant though. It's gigantic. Oh, you have to have it I know what happened with the UVA case in Rolling Stone magazine They printed this stupid fucking lie this crazy story that Really becomes a problem because there's real rape going on all the time on campuses That's happened. I don't believe that that girl wasn't raped the UVA store. Yeah, I believe that she was raped. I don't think It was the 15 like the way something happened something sure What do you mean? What do you think that because I think they probably think it wasn't even there and that she was never Any of that shit, maybe maybe we're all fake then I maybe didn't read any follow I think that's significant. There's there's so much evidence pointing to the fact that it was all made up Yeah, that there's very little possibility that something actually happened to ya I think they've completely dismissed that I think they think it was just a girl just made some crazy shit up Versus the mattress girl thing the mattress girl one was a weird one because she definitely had sex with that guy and she definitely Wanted to have sex that guy because she was messaging him about sex And about you know I think she said something about bring condoms and you're gonna put it in my butt and yeah It's a bunch of crazy shit like it was sex talk back and forth Yeah and then she just decided this is an Amazing way to be a martyr and to be a victim and to bring that fucking mattress everywhere including at her commencement speech Yeah, you know I mean that that's a different sort of case and that kid is now suing that kid is now suing that University and I hope he Wins yeah, I again. I hope he wins and Because I think due process is as important. It's literally a tie for first yeah between Protecting women and protecting the Constitution But Yeah, I don't even the the thing that bothers me about even talking about UVA or Columbia is It makes the story about lying women right which is just fucking not that they're the outliers Yes, they're the outliers by an extreme because they're the outline Ration when you can't absolutely ignore them in the equation well, that's the why you need due process Yeah, that is exactly why you need and you know we also have to stop thinking out of it as like men and women It's human beings yeah human beings involved in these situations, and we have to treat them like eagles Do you know the story about Occidental Occidental College in LA? Which story boy and girl get drunk text each other back and forth. I'm coming over do you have condoms yeah? Come on over she comes over though or they have sex with each other And then her friends convince her that because she was drunk she could not consent And that it's rape you know remember that was a big thing for a while that you if you're not drunk You can't consent that was like for a year or two. They tried to push that until they realized Oh my god that makes everyone a rapist so they can't I mean having said that I think that the Part that alcohol plays in this shit giant is so fucking massive and nobody ever brings it up. It's giant Yeah, if alcohol was complicit in all the things that people did while drunk the same way the prescription drugs Yeah, they'd be out of business out of business So this guy and this gal have some sex and it's consensual 100% But after the fact her friends tell her you couldn't consent because you were drunk So even though he was drunk too, so You know people get told authorities get involved he gets kicked out of school at school She does not they don't call it rape they don't press charges He didn't do anything actually wrong You know in terms of the letter of the law since they're both intoxicated and willing and consensual But they kick him out of college, and so he's like well what the fuck man? She's drunk too, so I got raped as well Do you understand that I can't just be the man that is doing the raping if you're both intoxicated Yeah, how the fuck am I supposed to be able to consent so the idea is that this is as much of? Male versus female thing I had a conversation with a female friend of mine recently and the conclusion one of the conclusions was Men don't see women as humans Whoa meaning there well, they're they're like Less They're other yes, they're it's other yeah, it's other. It's like you're not I'm not saying you're not a human But you're not a man. You know what I mean like there's something of like the way men treat women is not equal It's just it's other. It's like you're in this other category Well, they don't understand them that much because they're not one of them Yeah, and if they don't have a good relationship with their mother It's even worse especially if they were raised by their dad alone those guys are the sketchiest guys of all yeah I'm generalizing. I can't even think of one guy like that, but yeah, I don't think I know any guys like that but yeah, I know a guy like that and sometimes even guys that were only raised by their mom are sketchy if their mom hates women but the The whole thing is I mean look it's just real hard when you start doing this men and women thing right Because you're prone to generalizations. There's no getting away from it, but men want sex from women So they're pursuing women and do you have you do you know any men that are that your friends with that you see over time to? Become more and more bitter towards women because they've been getting rejected over and over and they associate women with bad feelings Yes, they associate women with negativity. I think men look at women like like they're trying to score on a team Yeah, it's dude. It's first base second base third base. It's literally like built into the language Yeah of how we it is a thing that guys Conquer so it ends up being I Liked in the past to like Saudi Arabia or like fucking towel heads But because they won't give us the fucking oil right like no, it's there. They don't like you They don't want to give you like they don't what they but that doesn't mean that they're shitty Anymore than it means you're shitty if you don't want this fucking kombucha like you just don't your body didn't want it It doesn't mean that their body doesn't want you like there's but it makes guys It hurts their feelings, and it makes them crazy and it also deals with these Evolutionary mechanisms that are designed to make sure that we breed you know becomes like a significant issue for you want to figure out How do I get this gal to like me to the point where she wants to have sex with me? Oh, I gotta buy the right cars. I rather wear the right watch I gotta do this and do that and say the right things be a gentleman and hold open doors and all these things that we do Like well, why do men hold open doors? Will to be a gentleman no to show that they're a preferential mate That's what they're doing. They're trying to con you correct and to taking that dick. Yes, that it's ghost speaks to your bit about invention the thing that that your invention thing now Is that the reason the thing of like why women have an advantage shit? Yeah, it's cuz they don't have to They don't have to it's also the way their mind works. You know the hunter-gatherer mindset It's really very different with the females and the tribe versus the males and we're stealing still dealing with the echoes of all that by the way for people that are Shallow we're talking about misogyny. Yes. Yes, so you know yeah, we're talking in theory about Massaging these are not views that either of us hold but yeah, but In fact the opposite I mean I and I have all daughters. You know I'm used to being around little girls I know I know about women more now I understand them than I ever did and How would you? How would you would how different would your behavior have been 20 years ago if you had what you but the wisdom you have now It would be way different. It would be way different. I just would it. Maybe my behave. I never did anything horrible Like my record is clean Yeah, no, I'm not talking to think about assault. Yeah, but what I am What I am more aware of now is the inner workings of like a female from child to adulthood I understand that they're just so that There's a different evolutionary path for their sex for their gender There's a whole thing going on that they want to protect the nest they want to find a man like There's a lot of guys that look at a girl who wants a successful guy like oh, she's fucking shallow She just wants a bunch of shit. She wants someone to pay for everything like there is a evolutionary path where the woman is looking for a man who Shows that he is capable of taking care of things while she is held up being pregnant and taking care of the young it is a natural instinct it is undeniable and there are some women that are super strong and super Motivated and they don't have that instinct their instinct is to just have a kid give it to a nanny get back to work as quick As possible and you know what I'll tell you what I bet their husbands tall You know I mean there's still those things of like the evolutionary shit that you can't get rid of your body wants to fuck a tall Guy yeah, yeah for the same for protection all that shit for all that shit money. Yeah height Strength provisions. Yeah. Yeah, and and the ability to overcome Significant situations like whenever there's a like a guy that falls apart under stress is One of the most unattractive things to women ever because I was a study where like that I think Whitney and I have talked about where guys Women don't like when guys cry in front of them. They say they want an emotional guy What they mean is I want you to listen to my emotions. Yeah, I don't want you to be emotional I need you to be a fucking marine Yeah, and if you're gonna be emotional and cry about things it better be like a brave display of a mo yes My one of your fallen brothers Yeah, there's somebody's written. You know like a baseball players retiring something some physical some physical thing About the passage of time and brotherhood. That's it. Yeah, maybe that's it. Yeah, maybe like daughter's birthday party. You're so happy Yeah, yeah, that's the that's the portfolio Yeah, but the ability to respond to pressures a giant one The ability to provide is a giant one physical features like having strong features having strong genetics Mm-hmm the woman has to know like genetically has to feel like she's being protected And then there's some women that don't like that at all There's some women that like bitch men and we know those women and they they they're the really domineering Powerful women and they have these men that are like quiet and they're sort of Yeah, I mean that's that's okay, too But these these patterns that exist they exist because for the longest time I mean look it's a weird situation where a woman has to be pregnant for nine months. That's a long time Yeah, imagine picking a man Imagine if you're you're a man and you're picking a woman and you have to decide when you're meeting this woman Is this chick gonna be able to keep it together with me while I'm held up Literally held up for a year like a whole year for one year I'm gonna be stuck in this situation and then from then the next 18 years I'm gonna be responsible for the infant that comes out of this union. Mm-hmm But that's that's so different than our thought process. It's so different the consequences are so much different Men only think about to me Men want sex they don't think about they literally and then it's just black and then it's just black sure It's like sex and then just like black into the distance infinite blackness