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Neal Brennan is a stand-up comic, actor, writer, director, and host of the podcast "Blocks." Catch his new special, "Neal Brennan: Crazy Good," on Netflix.www.nealbrennan.com
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Oh, you're full. I mean I feel like Hicks is probably more conscious Yeah, didn't it do anything to women but you know like friends who worked with them and say like hey we're going out You want come out now. I'm gonna go back and jerk off like yeah Just he was just into watching porn and beating off all the time, you know, it's funny I was talking about because yeah, we both know Louise since you've known him since 1989 probably I don't I never knew what are you around him? I would see him like once a year twice a year somewhere and say hi I know you way better than I know him. Yeah the so I Remember when I moved to New York in 91 and was in the comedy club scene in 92 93 94 in New York I was I couldn't believe the amount of jerking off that was going on. I Just remember like why is everyone constantly talking about like what the fuck is it? Louise apartment for to shoot movies like his shorts that he used to make I would like PA on them and And it always smelled gross Like a Jay Moore was constantly Jay Moore were me and I were roommates for a bit He jerked off on one of my socks like just like what do you like? Why is everyone jerking off all the time? Just like what is the what the fuck is happening? That's rape. Yeah. No, you know what's funny is I was wondering like Today. Yeah, I was thinking about the thing the Jay thing again because I'm I'm of the mind that like Again Louie was more gross than than Malicious and discuss malicious and criminal. I was gross that what he did I think it was gross if he did it to a man. It takes on more ominous tones when he's doing it to women Completely agree. Yeah, it's I mean, I'm not I don't think Right, no, no, no, I don't think so. I think it's just sad. It's nothing like Cosby. It's just pathetic It's weird and you know, I had some conversations with Eliza Schlesinger and she was saying that Men would say things to her when she first started out cuz she wasn't very good, you know, she just start out Yeah And these guys were like established guys and they would treat her as if like you're below me and you're always going to be below Me and I get away with saying whenever I want to you because you're less than me Yeah, and she was and I kind of feel like that's probably why he did that to those girls Like he was above them. They were below him and it was not just hey, I want to jerk off in front of you It's like you have to watch me jerk off because I'm above you, you know, what's the thing you said earlier was relevant which is Getting hard right from that. How can you? Yeah, that's right thing. That's like but I But then it's also like you don't pick your kinks and all that shit like they just fall on you Yeah, you don't pick that. Yeah, that's even a direct correlation. Most kinks are just like I don't know I'm fucking like Yeah Being hung off the roof, you know Yeah But yeah, that's the thing of like the the getting hard thing but also I The whole thing it is sad it's fucked up, but I actually think he'll be He'll be in a year and a half. He'll be back. You think sorry that yeah, cuz now he's got something to talk about for yeah It's gonna be sure it's gonna be a lot of dudes at the show It's gonna be 90% dudes, but I've asked the crowd I've asked probably five or six different crowds if Louie was doing the show after this would you go and 70% of the people applaud. Yeah, they would want to see what the fuck. He has to say. Yeah. Yes I think he's gone stage the first words out of his mouth. Yeah. Well, I asked I There's I believe light should just come up and he's jerking off buttoning Yeah, it's a great idea and it was just like lights down and just like yeah, I think what he did was Freaky and weird, but I think Louie. I don't think Louie's a monster I don't know him very well, but I don't I don't think he's a bad person. He's always been friendly to me He's not a bad person. No, like I He's not like he's not a bad. He's not he's also again. I don't want to be like I defending a sex criminal If it's a power thing he the more powerful he got the less he did it. Yeah, that's the weird thing, right? It's like I think he realized that what he did was fucked up and like he had these crazy Urges and he did it and then as time went on he stopped doing it and he's like I am a prisoner to some shit that I know and if he had just got in front of it I feel like if he had just real a if he had just talked about it. Yeah in a Letterman talked about fucking his staff on the air. Yeah, and no one cared Well, the Letterman just went straight Do you mean a hundred percent confessional? Yeah, which I think Louie could have done He just mishandled it liked having sex with the people that work with And by the way, I mean, but I talked to the lady about this yesterday goes have you watched it? He's getting laughs the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, like the whole time the whole time big laughs. He was brilliant Yeah, I miss him but again the other thing it's like the irony of like Netflix didn't pull his show Yeah, but he was only having sex with people But here's the thing having sex with people back then but that's not a piece of power Yes, that's now that's that's can sit again. We're talking about four years ago. That's crazy You know, it feels like it's changed. What's changed? Is it just everyone? I think the Harvey Weinstein thing was so fucking gross and he's such a monster Yeah that everybody's like completely I think there's this ripple effect and that this we're like way beyond Normal reactions for things like Matt Lauer. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out what Matt Lauer did that got him fired. I He had sex with someone on staff Yeah, I think he had sex with someone on staff that probably felt like she couldn't stop Mmm, that's that would be the that would be that sort of rub. I don't know you see I don't I Don't want a victim shame right? You don't know you don't know what really happened I don't know his version. I don't even know her version. I just know the third-hand version You know like I read one that he had sex with some girl until she blacked out like Yeah And then the other thing was that he had a button at his desk we could lock the door That's a me is normal Yeah That to me is less a rape trap than than it is just like a fucking I don't want to have to get up and go When you're That big and you're like fuck, you know, yeah, it's probably I don't want to walk 40 feet Right every time I need to shut the door. Well, it's also he's writing right when you write you don't want to be disturbed You just like it's rather just let me just lock this fucking door and lock into this thing I don't even think it was writing. I think it's just like a convenience thing maybe but there was no The only abuse is that he was having sex with someone who was above below him. Mm-hmm, right? there wasn't like he you know, he didn't chase him down like Harvey did or you know offer them a gig or another friend of mine said some interesting which he said Until Dating people you work with is illegal. This is never gonna stop Yeah, Whitney's got a great joke about that that she's doing right now about working in an office, you know, cuz she works Yeah, and now yeah, it's uh It's their world, you know, it's like yeah when men and women are in Yeah, and you can't like where else are you gonna meet people?