Joe Rogan on Deadnaming

How dare you have a pair of very comfortable underarm or running shoes on how are those Those shoes the other day. Um, they're a little too tight for me They bind my feet a tad bit when I got to the store I had to swap them out for I had a pair of converse all-stars which my go-to you got Yeezys, right? Jamie gave me a pair of Yeezys about a year ago. He just Warmed Dead sock them is that what's called dead stock dead stock dead stock. Oh, do you know what dead naming is? Do you know what dead naming is? Is that a shoe thing? No. No, it's a new thing. That's illegal on Twitter This is something I wish I knew I didn't know until after the podcast but dead naming is It's banned. So say if you decide tomorrow to become a woman and you're like, I'm not no longer Brian. I'm Brian Ena Be like Brianna. That's what you thought. Of course. Okay, so I'd be like Okay, Brianna, but you're still a man and then boom that's dead naming. You can't Call someone Something other than their preferred gender. So like if they identify as a woman But they're biologically male, you're not allowed to say they're biologically male. Oh You're not allowed to call them a man because that's dead naming You're not allowed to call them like you couldn't call Caitlyn Jenner Bruce if you called her Bruce You would be dead naming her but that's just like That's not illegal or I mean like from there. Oh, it's a Twitter role. It is a new please pull it up Okay, I did not know this I did not know this I searched it. It's been around for a while But I'm checking the Twitter that's kind of weird dead naming has been banned for a while or no The term has been around I just found out about the term maybe a couple weeks ago. I'd heard the term for the first time Somebody wrote dead naming and I was like what what is that and then I had a look at that Sorry, Nicholas all the new roles we have to do There's an article that I was reading good. I'm looking right at their terms of service. It's directly word-for-word in there Okay, where's the sit up? Okay dead naming of transgender individuals repeated or non-consensual slurs epithets racist and sexist tropes or other content that degrade someone Okay Well, hold on a second. Like what does degrade someone? So if you if you contact me and say hey, bro You're fucking short. You're not funny. That's degrading. Yeah, like is that not allowed? That's crazy. You have to you have to have that be allowed we prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs tropes or other content that it tends to dehumanize degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected Category see that's where it comes from like white people are not protected This includes targeted misgendering or dead naming of Transcend transgender individuals. I love how they just went with this a giant corporation and they just went with some new word It's only been around for like a month. How long has dead naming been around for the Urban dictionary had it in there from 2014 Really? Never even heard that. They're on the ball. Tell you that but yeah They stay ahead Twitter still allows goat sees and and all the porn you want. I was interesting to me. Yeah Well porn is consensual. Yeah, I love that. Uh, it's just hilarious I love that. That's all I love the I do love the chaos of it all I love the fact that they're trying to sort everything out. I just think it's the whole thing is crazy It's so bizarre that Like they're trying to in that sense with that like that's so vague To dehumanize or degrade what every joke about someone every joke about Trump Every single joke about Trump that every single comedian and or commentator and or person Makes is in some way degrading when you talk about how fucking stupid he is Like Rob Reiner had a joke about him called him a piece of shit or call them a piece of crap Yesterday and said he couldn't believe how fucking dumb he is Trump talking about Hillary though. She's doing it to Hillary percent 100% So that's so vague. Yeah, that's so vague and dead naming is not a real word So like how are they using fake words in this shit? They're trying to say it is now it is a real real word Yeah, man. I don't know if your name used to be Bruce and you changed to Caitlin. I can't say that that seems Bananas, yeah, that seems bananas. So like if you're fucking with somebody say somebody became a woman and it's still an asshole Like you can't call him Mike, you know, hey Mike look I'm sure you're bitter about this whole changing your sex thing You can't bring that up But you're still an annoying guy. You just don't have your dick anymore. Bye Like if someone says that they can't say that why can't they say that? They should that's to me stupid. Well, well, I'm not saying that's hurtful. I guess to transgender people I guess and that's can be considered hate right speech or hate whatever but only but Only when it comes to like gender, right? Like if you could you could tell someone hey, you're short and fat and stupid And they don't no one cares True right you could say you you're ugly as fuck. Your nose is disgusting What happens there Is that the same way is that the same thing it might be if you do it repeatedly, right? If you do it once you just throw one out there Probably okay, probably one time you could shit on someone's looks yeah one But it's like what like deciding what you can and shit on someone for like what I'm saying If there's someone's an asshole and they're like, here's a perfect one that woman who used to be a man She's a transgender woman who was in a store screaming at this kid behind the counter that it's ma'am. It's ma'am This is the perfect example of that guy was terrified She's fucking huge and she used to be a guy and clearly still looks like a guy and she's saying it's fucking ma'am Like yeah, you know, she knocked some shit over. She got violent. Yeah in that situation You're telling me that it's not cool to say how about you settle the fuck down? Because you look like a guy you're acting like a violent guy and you used to be a guy Pardon me if I think you're still a fucking guy That's dead naming But that's a good thing to say in that particular instance. So without nuance right without context But it's saying you can't say anything to degrade someone Well, clearly that would degrade that guy but if that guy was saying fuck that kid He did it on purpose on Twitter. You're saying someone can't respond. Hey, man I'm sure you're really upset that you got your dick removed and you still look like a guy but fuck you like Why can't someone say that because that's people Communicating how they feel about you being a dick like if you start out being a dick and then they communicate about you being A dick by being a dick as well. Are we banning this? It's their part is covering their butts There's probably not you know, it like kind of a Jamie said it's dangerous In a lot of ways it's dangerous to control people's thoughts and behavior because who are you to say? And when does it end? You know, it just keeps going and going and going and going it gets it gets very slippery When you have one group that thinks it's right and they're trying to control another group that thinks they're right, man That is uh, it's it seems so simple when you're just talking about dead naming Transgender people or not degrading people based on their looks or their ethnicity or their with this or their that But what you're doing is you're trying to dictate how humans communicate with each other and people don't like it when you tell them what to do