Joe Rogan on Agent Provocateurs During George Floyd Protests, Mysterious Pallets of Bricks

Have you seen these bricks that people have been finding at all these different sites where people are protesting? These organized stacks of bricks? No. Yeah, man. Look, this is, I'm going to send, Jamie, I'm going to send you one that Eddie sent me. Who do you think is putting that? That's the question, right? It's like, who is putting that? Is it Antifa? Is it the cops? Is it someone who wants someone to throw a brick so that they can impart martial law? What is it? Yeah. You know, my brain always goes to conspiratorial elements. Here it is. Mysterious brick piles appear throughout major protest cities. I mean, these are bricks that are appearing that don't have a reason to be there. Jamie, I'm going to send you this video that Eddie sent me because this is, I'll air drive it to you, buddy. God, man. You were doing the bait car, they said, in long days yesterday. They left a car out there. Yeah, they left a real shitty car. Who leaves a fucking free car off for people to just take? A free police car. So they left an old shitty police car out there. And then on top of that, this old, why is this not? Okay, Jamie, I'm air dropping it to you right now. So this old shitty police car, and then these three, you have all these protesters, and then these three people move in a very organized fashion. And there's a guy who made a video about it. You seen the video, Jamie, where the guy breaks down the antifa. Have you seen that? I'll send you the video. What's that? I never saw this. Yeah. Okay, put it up on the screen. I got to figure out how to do it. Oh, okay. Oh, I see. That's so crazy. So there's these, there it is. So these random pallets of bricks, this is very organized. This is on Ventura Boulevard out here in LA, or I think it's in North Hollywood. So these pallets of bricks are just sitting there. Look at this. What? They're just like riot supplies. Exactly riot supplies. What? Exactly. So who's doing this? This is very organized. I mean- There's many stacks of these bricks. It's very anti-anarchist. Well, is it- Because it's organized. But I mean, well, it's fuel for anarchy, right? Yeah, but I just, I wonder- Look at this. Or do you think, I mean, here's another theory. It could be possibly performance art. I mean, and I'm not saying that as a joke, but some performance artists go to that length. But that's very, very organized and very ominous and very weird. I mean, I hope that those were reported and that the police picked them up. Well, one thing that is happening that's promising is that these provocateurs are getting caught by actual Black Lives Matter protesters and grabbing them. And these assholes that are breaking windows and spray painting things, they're grabbing these people and saying, hey, you fuck. And they're turning these people in. Like these people are smashing things. Thank the Lords. But they're recognizing that this is damaging to this. There's a great moment in time right now where we can enact real change. Where you can, this is like, you get this, and it's really the perfect storm in terms of, and it's horrific nature. You see this guy who's nonchalantly got his knee on this man's neck for eight minutes and 38 seconds. There's no justification. It's very clear. It's horrific. There's no blurriness. There's no gray area. It's just dirty. It's awful. It's evil. And then the man dies and everybody is, for a fantastic reason, upset and they want change and they're marching through the streets. But then when you see these bricks and then we see the chaos and there's, they've caught cops, cops that people knew were cops wearing police office, police distributed gas masks, like official gas masks, like the ones that the cops use, like the same wardrobe that cops wear, everything's black, all military issue shit. And then these people would chase them, are you a fucking cop? Like this guy's breaking windows at Target. And then someone in the commas was like, I know who that is. That guy is a cop. And they were calling out the guy's name. So this cop is going around while these peaceful protests are going on and he's smashing windows with a gas mask on, fully dressed in military issue garb and people are like, well, that's an Asian provocateur. But is he acting on his own? Is he a rogue cop? Is he like one of those crazy firefighters that lights buildings on fire so that they can save them? Right. Is he inciting this? What is going on here? I think some people just wish they want it to turn into something massive and they want it to be like a civil war. And there's also like the whole race war thing that you hear about in a white supremacist and stuff like that talk about, you know, and then there's like the right way. The thing is like your mind can swim in all kinds of like conspiratorial ways and it's probably, it's a mixture of all kinds of things. It's definitely like, it's probably like, hey, I'm going to do this or like, hey, we should do that. Or someone kind of kids around and someone's listening, you know, in the police, police department or whatever. And they're like, yeah, what if we were doing that? Whatever. And they hear that and they're like, I am going to do that. Who knows? But that's some dangerous shit. And I think that that's amazing that the protesters who are seeing this are detaining these people because those people, they're just not helping in any way. And I'm yeah, here's a good one. See, this asshole is smashing things and this guy comes over and grabs him and fucking body slams him. And then everybody holds the guy down. They're screaming and yelling at him. They hold this guy. Yeah, pass him over the place to. Yeah, these are Antifa. Yeah, he's trying really hard to cover his face. Yeah, it's like, no, no, no, no, no. What is he hitting with a hammer? What was he hitting? He was making bricks off the sidewalk. Oh, and that's so. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. Oh, my God. How old is that dude? I don't know. That's a great frail, shitty dude. I mean, I think how easy they took him down. There's definitely some anarchists that are like, you know, they're basically they're like, we're doing this. This is our time. And you know that there's like a whole wave of those people because I mean, I remember going to Brandenburg, Germany, a friend of mine out there has like a bunch of kind of Antifa slash Arnac anarchists, but like kind of mellow version German mellow version of that bought a bunch of land that was actually like a weird, shaky history. But it was like Goebbels training camp for the Nazi youth. And then it was before that, it was like a Polish, I don't know, like Air Force place or something like that. Anyways, it has like this military weird, shaky history, but they bought it and they've converted it. And now it's like very accepting of all people, like all kinds of people live on there. And then they are people who work on the what's it called the fusion festival, which is one of the biggest festivals in the world in Germany that's in Brandenburg. And it's an amazing festival. It's all just love based techno, you know, but it's got that hard edge of like anti-corporate. It's all DIY, but it's massive. It's like 70,000 people festival. It's like Burning Man in the Woods. And very interesting conversations that you hear from them. Do you speak German? I don't. I don't. I mean, a tiny bit, I envision, but not a lot. I actually was trying to learn German. I love the German language. Do they speak English? Yeah, they speak English. So when you have these conversations? Yes. Yeah, we're speaking English. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember once because I was renting an Audi R8 V10 plus and I drove it onto the grounds when they were tearing down and this young woman came up with a spray paint can and was like shaking the can and going like, what are you doing here with this kind of a vehicle? And it was this weird tense standoff, but I was with one of the people who's like one of the... Like she was going to spray paint your car? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. And a bold lady. I know. And in a way, like I was like, you know what, if she would have done it, that's fine. I was in her territory, you know? Fuck that. I mean, I'm okay with like when it comes to like people who are that passionate about like anti-corporate and stuff like that. I'm like, I get it. Yeah, but that's your property. No, I mean, I'm renting it. Yeah, but she doesn't know that. She doesn't know that, but I did. And I had a feeling she wasn't, but inside my head I was like, what if she did? And I'd be like, well, I guess I just have to drive this Audi with like this fascist, anti-fascist, whatever symbol on the side of the car, which I don't, you know, it's like, it's a funny thing. No good ever comes out of that. That's the problem. No. No good ever comes out of defacing property. No compromise gets reached. No conversation gets breached. No, no. And not when you're destroying, not when you're destroying history and you're destroying, it's just destruction. Again, as an initial response, understandable. If something happens and people go out and they're young, especially in this climate, you know, being cooped up, no jobs, what do you want to do? Let's rally behind this. This is ridiculous. Whatever. Boom. Initial like, ah, who knows what's going to happen in that chaos when everybody goes outside? I get that. The continuation of it as the standard behavior, that's a problem that any leader, any civil leader is going to condemn and frown upon because at the end of the day, I'm a pragmatist and it's just inefficient. It's just very inefficient. That's a funny way to look at it. Inefficient. It's like, how are you going to use that energy? Like harness the energy for real, if you want real change, you got to like, you got to figure, you have to strategize. And for me, I'm about hacking. We got to hack this system. Yeah, but you're this guy who's like really into engineering. You're very thoughtful. That's not what you're dealing with with these burn it to the ground motherfuckers. These people don't have a plan B and they don't have a forward strategy. They just went, we're going to fucking tear down capitalism. And then what, how are you going to get your food? You fuck. Are you going to get your shoes? Who's making your shoes? Where did you get your car? You fucking idiot. I know. Where'd your phone come from? I'll give you a hint. Not America. Yes, I know. Things have to get made. People have to engineer them. It is really like it is. And I agree with that 100 percent. They're using capitalism to fight capitalism. Yes. They're using the internet and social media sites on cell phones that they bought. Yes. Yes. I mean, without a doubt, I mean, here's the thing. This is what's so weird about it. It's that it's such a paradox, right? I mean, essentially is what you're describing. Yeah. So like if you want to affect change, you're either going to fit into the feedback loop. You're going to feed back into the feedback loop or you're going to figure out a way to shift it so that you're able to spiral away from it. And that's really what we need. And I like people taking responsibility for getting rid of the fuckwits that are like fucking it up for everybody because guaranteed, whether it's the police or whether it's protesters, it's always a very, very small percentage of those people are going to fuck it up because also the news loves sensationalism. So we're going to focus on that. I think what we're dealing with right now is really the perfect storm. Okay. You have a bunch of pieces in place. First of all, there's a lot of people that never really recovered from the 2008 crisis, right? As people are very upset that the bankers and these subprime mortgage loans and the housing crisis and everything went chaotic, people lost shit tons of money. And then all of a sudden you have this pandemic and the pandemic comes along and people cannot work. This time ever through no fault of your own, you literally can't work for months and months at a time. There's a staggering number of people right now that are in desperate states. They're in a terrible position financially. They're about to lose their home. They're about to lose their car. They don't know what the fuck they're going to do to feed themselves. And then you get this murder and the murder just lights all this dry wood. And then everybody says, look, these people are all full of shit. Donald Trump's full of shit. Nancy Pelosi's full of shit. They're all monsters. It's all both. Gavin Newsom is full of shit. Let's fucking burn it down. Let's steal. Let's smash. And that's taking part. That's happening while these peaceful protests are happening. All the while people just got done watching The Joker. So The Joker, which is this fucking billion dollar movie where this guy kills everybody and burns it to the ground, shoots people on TV. And here's the problem. You kind of cheer for him. You kind of cheer for him. If this is a movie that a bunch of people will like, look, we're going to fucking end this corrupt system of capitalism, start smashing windows and burning things. Part of you would be going, hmm, let's see how this turns out. How is this going to turn out? This is kind of an interesting choice. Like, wow, these guys are getting radical. Do they have a plan? But then if the movie in the movie, like if you saw these pallets of bricks just mysteriously appearing at these areas where people are scheduled to protest and where these these marches are supposed to go by, you'll okay. What is the fuck is going on here? Yeah, it's it's there's something else at play that's like trying to like push it over into that fantasy to move from the fantasy into the reality. And my left wing friends think it's right wing people that are aging provocateurs that are trying to start this sort of chaotic scene so that the military can be called in, which is what essentially Trump apparently did today. Oh, yes. Yeah. Apparently, Jamie, what why is everybody saying that it's martial law? Is that something that happened after his speech? Well, he's during his speech, he was essentially saying that if they didn't call in the National Guard, he was going to bring in the military, which is I don't think I don't know if he can do that. I don't think he can do that. That statement, I think is what they're taking as martial law. Yeah, essentially. Yeah, which, which in a weird way goes against I mean, like you were, you know, you're talking about left wing people saying like, it's the right wing. And I'm sure that there are right wing people that are like saying, Oh, it's the left wing. Yeah, they think it's Antifa. So it's like all this finger pointing whoever's doing it is definitely winning for their point of view, because they're like, well, we're doing it. No one knows who it is. And we're just doing it. Well, Asian provocateurs have been used from the beginning of time. I mean, they've always done that Hitler burned the Reichstag. He did that to incite the people of Germany to get behind him and that he was going to take control of the city of Nero burned Rome. Same way. I mean, it was all done in order to get people excited about this idea of this one person saving them from this attack. And that has been done forever. Yeah, Alex Jones had a great video called 911 the road to tyranny. It was the first time I really understood that agent provocateurs are a government strategy. And he detailed like very this is like, I guess it was like 2001 or 2002 that he put this video out and he detailed how the World Trade Organization when those people were protesting against the WTO. And this was in Seattle. Yeah, I was there. Okay. So when you were this was you were there in 2000. I was there just before it blew up. It was a I actually don't know. It was 2000. It was early 2000s, early 2000s, maybe 2000, 2001 or something. So these people were protesting against the WTO. And then these guys dressed exactly like that guy I was talking about earlier, all black face covered military issue outfits military issue, Vibram sold shoes, all dressed uniformly, started smashing windows, smashing cars, pushing over like post office boxes, lighting things on fire. And then they wound up shutting down all the protests and even had they had a no protest zone where people were showing up at work where they had a WTO stick or like a WTO pin with a red line through it. They made them take that pin off of their jacket before they went through the line, because you couldn't have anything that was anything, any sort of a protest. It was crazy. Like this is all documented in this film. Then they eventually all these guys who were the agent provocateurs hold up in a building and then the police negotiated with them and then released them. So there was some sort of an order from higher up and they were all released. Interesting. They used these guys, they used military people, some branch of the government, who knows what the fuck they were, who they were. They used them to turn a peaceful protest about a legitimate concern these people have about the doings of the World Trade Organization. And they turned it into a violent encounter that they could then justifiably bring in the police and shut everything down. Makes sense. That's what people are worried about with these bricks. They're worried about these bricks. These bricks, this is horseshit. This is done to shut down the peaceful protests where people are legitimately and righteously concerned about ending police brutality, because it's been going on forever. It's been going on too long. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, at this point, it's like I don't put past any measure done by people that want to maintain their bottom line. They'll do whatever it takes. And it's like, again, when it comes to stuff like that, I'm like, I want to stay informed. I want to keep those ideas in mind in the most simplistic way, which is if you've got a lot of shit, you're going to do whatever it takes to keep your shit. And you'll do all kinds of crazy shit to try to maintain power and control. And vice versa. And what really sucks is that if you did the opposite, if you did what that sheriff did, you actually get not only get what you want, but you get more. And that's what I don't understand. The virus of doing evil badly, that's what I think of it as, being very inefficient and terrible at being selfish and greedy. If you were really selfish and if you're really greedy, you would make sure that the well-being of your population was met so that there was reverence for your position. And if there's reverence for your position, then you have the goodwill of people. It's easier to make things happen. However, people don't get that. That's 5D chess. Yeah, man. I mean, come on. It's like, you know, but even people don't think like that, right? I know they don't. They just want control and power. It's a virus.