Joe Rogan and Reggie Watts on Evolving Human Consciousness

It is, but it's almost inevitable. I mean, I feel like we have to accept this new reality. Yes. That, you know, privacy is one day going to be a thing of the past and not just in terms of like what you browse and but I think what you think. You know, one of the things that Elon said to me in the last conversation I had that really creeped me out is like, you're going to be able to talk without words. Because he's talking about Neural Link. Yeah, the Neural Link. You're going to be able to talk without... I'm not going to be able to talk without words. You're going to be able to talk without conversations without words? No, that's not the way that works. Oh, God damn it. What are you going to do? That leads to hive mind. We're going to have hive mind. Well, here's the thing. My condensation or the condensing of technology in general, it's we are fascinated with creating the things that we already do, that we already do inherently. So that idea of like being able to talk without words, it's like that happens all the time anyway. So you ever go on a dance floor and watch people like dancing and like someone's like communicating and they're just body language. They know what's going on or you're about to call your friend and suddenly your friend calls. That's why we communicating with that words like on the dance floor is a perfect example of like one of them Porsches where the ass end goes out and you're out of control. There's some communication in there too. Like God doesn't know how to control his body. Yes, exactly. Yeah. It's like, oh, well, I'm going to stay away from that person. Stay away. Stay away. This person is losing control. Fucking dance over here. He can't dance. And then, you know, but then but then there's like, you know, there might be like a compassionate choreographer be like, here, I'll teach you how to dance. I will make, I will make an example of you. You know, those women aren't real. No one you don't think that there's like there's benevolent choreographers that will help you. They steal your liver. Those girls, they drug you and steal your liver. You wake up in a tub filled with ice. I love that. That's a story that like if that actually was a stereotype for choreographers, I don't trust choreographers. You know, one minute they're teaching you a bunch of routines and then the next you're doing a bathtub with no liver. Yeah, you're making out with some Eastern Bloc chick and all of a sudden you fall asleep and you wake up and there's a deep pain on the right side of your body like, what the fuck? Oh, no. Big chunk of your liver is missing. No, that's not the future of the liver. I'm shooting for the, I'm shooting for the high ground, man. We're going to do it. Yeah. We're going to do it. I don't know. I have great faith for the human race. I do. I mean, I think this is a terrible blip in our civilization and I think we've had terrible blips in the past and we've gotten over them. The problem right now is our foundation is really being tested because we've had multiple blips in a row. Yes. Big heavy ones. Yep. And you know. Big stress tests, man. Big ones. Big ones. And unless we have a period of peace where we can digest these and recover, we're deteriorating, which is like keep taking these hits like an old boxer. Just getting knocked out. Like, whoa. Yep. Yep. And brain damage and tissue damage. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, you remember, what I'm hoping for is another age of enlightenment. Spain had one. There have been every, most large cultural epicenters have had these moments where things kind of came into balance after some great turmoil and we were able to just put on cruise control for a little while and explore more in-depth, nuanced things about who we are. But those things existed before social media. That's true. I think the only way we're going to be able to pull that off today is with mushrooms. We're going to need something that lets people know like, oh, this reality that you're in is a very bland, two-dimensional projection of the reality that you can experience with our little fungus friends. Yes. And there's a little bit of an escape from this tired realm into a land of infinite possibility of love and understanding and connectedness and a dissolving of the ego and the likes of which you've never experienced before. And if we can all do that, if that could be legal, look, marijuana has radically changed the culture of California, radically changed the culture of Denver, radically changed the culture of everywhere where it's been legalized. That's true. It's changed the way people communicate with each other. It's changed their ideas about law enforcement because we're no longer worried about jack-booted thugs knocking down our door because we like to smoke a plant that makes us happy. That's not a concern anymore. That's a fundamental shift in just how we are as a human race. And that's us. It's a mild psychedelic. Psychadelics, they come in very, you know, if marijuana is a gateway to anything, it's a gateway to the real psychedelics. It's a gateway to mushrooms. It's a gateway to DMT. It's a gateway to mescaline. All those really fucking profound world-dissolving ones. It's a gateway to those things. I really think that we need something like that at this time. We need rituals, some sort of psychedelic rituals, and best processed by real, legitimate professionals and real established centers where people actually know what they're doing. We could help people get past this bump in our evolutionary travels. Yeah, and all the trauma. You got to deal with the trauma. We try to run away from it most of the time. We try to feel good about stuff. And you just need to take it on, understand it, and then transform it. Transform it into a part of yourself that makes you stronger. And psychedelics, really, they're just like a reminder. It's a reminder of how we are. Because when children are born and their eyes are flinting everywhere and they're trying to absorb as much as they can about the world, they don't care about color, they don't care about any of the shit that we have problems with. All that stuff is learned. That initial state is essentially what happens with psychedelics. We go back to the interconnectedness of consciousness. I know however you want to define that, but the experience of it is very interconnected. It's a reminder that, oh yeah, we're natural organisms. We're part of this planet. This planet is a part of a solar system. The solar system is a part of blah, blah, blah. And you also realize that your life experiences and your memories and even your personality is basically like a tiny pop-up tent that you've set up in the wilderness of real consciousness. Yeah, that's true. You're like, I got my little stove here. I'm going to cook my tea and I got it all under control. And then you unzip that tent and you go out into the fucking wilderness of psychedelic consciousness and realize, oh my God, I've been living in a tent. I've been living in this little baby pup tent. This has been my reality. Yes. And the more insecure people are, the more they want to define what is allowed and not allowed inside that tent. Exactly. A hundred percent. And guaranteed, I've had arguments with people. I remember there was a skinhead on a bus once and we had a conversation together and he was still an active skinhead. And we were sitting across from each other. But he commented on something I was wearing or something like that. And we started talking for a second. We were talking about mutual things. And then he got up to get off the bus and he just kind of looked at me and just kind of shrugged and walked off. And I was like, that's interesting. Basically a neo-Nazi guy was on a bus and for whatever reason we connected on this one thing. And it reminded me of the cartoon with the sheepdog and the... Yeah, Morning Ralph. Yeah, Morning Ralph. Morning Ralph. It's like, that's how sometimes I like to view stuff. I'm like, okay, so you're going to play the role of the person who is the fascist. I'm going to play the role of the person who is afraid and hiding in the shadows. Okay. And go and scene and action. And there's something about like, I talked to my friends about it. It's like there is a way if you're smart, you're intuitive and you're emotionally intelligent enough, you can always find your way to that person's core and you can share a value. If you can share one value, you can make it, you can learn something even if it's a brief moment, just for a second, an interconnected moment with another person who shares none of your values at all.