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Maynard James Keenan is a musician, winemaker, and martial artist best known as the vocalist for the rock bands Tool, Puscifer, and A Perfect Circle. Look for the new Puscifer concert films "Parole Violator" and "V is for Versatile" on October 28. http://www.puscifer.com/
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Right. Just started thinking about that thing you did with, was it Ronda Rousey and who else was in there? What else? That guy you said was president. Oh, that guy. That's right. Trump was in it. Yep. I bet my balls and lost. What year was that? That was 15. Those before the elections. I was like right when he announced that he was around the time. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Remember when you said that to me, I was like, what the fuck is he doing? Yeah. Did you get all the different Ronda Rousey versions? No, I got, I know we've got, um, uh, miss, miss, uh, Chrissy cyborgs in there. We have a miss Holly home. We have a cat's in Ghana. We have me. We have Rhonda. I'm the hot one. It's hilarious. Now again, where do you have the time to do this? I didn't. These are friends of mine who did the whole video. I go, here's what I have in mind. And they were like, okay, we'll do it. I don't animate. I have no idea how to animate. You got a lot of shit for this. Uh, not really. I mean, cause it's, it's just pure, it's, you know, it's just pure comedy, right? It's like, it's not, you know, whatever. I'm not, you know, I, I'm political to a point only when it's like when it comes to assholes. So I don't like most politicians are easy targets because they're, you already know they're lying. They're speaking so that they're just, it's good comedy right away. I think the best comedy we've had in many years has been Trump cause he just, he sets them up for you. He does, but it's almost, it's, it's what he's doing is so strange because he's not even pretending to be what we think of as a president. Kill attack people on Twitter. It's weird. It's crazy. It's weird. Like, I wonder if the thing we talked about, the 400 year line, okay, this is me going back to conspiracy theories. Eddie didn't sneak in yet. No, Eddie's working right now. All right. So, um, I feel like it's almost like that is the distraction to keep us all divided and keep us all guessing what the fuck's going on. On purpose? Yeah, maybe, maybe. You know, if you're, if you're a good, if you're a good conspiracy theorist, you're going to put those connections together. Look, look at the, every show that's ever gone like, okay, well we find out that there's just media speeding toward earth. We can't tell anybody. So if there's anything weird like that going on, like there's a, there's a fungus that's going to kill everybody. Don't tell them. Just get everybody arguing, get them like, you know, distracted by, you know, you know, football, Hey, who's, who's, who's your team football? Right? You know, just the bread and circus of it all. Right? You get caught up in having, you know, having food and some gladiators and you forget about your civic duty. Right? That would have to be orchestrated by some genius component of our government that doesn't seem to exist in any other form. I think it's accident. I don't, I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody's pulling the strings. I think it's just like part of the progression of what happens. Okay. The Kalayuga madness. Yeah. It just happens. It just, so just it, because of the natural progression of where things are going, it just comes out as a symptom. That makes more sense to me. That, that, that makes more sense to me than this grand conspiracy. Oh no, it's not. I don't think there's, I don't think anybody's that organized. No, I don't think so either. No, no, no. I think there's chaos going on and people capitalizing on that chaos. And I definitely think there's lying. I definitely think there's conspiracies, but I think more than anything, it's just, this is the way the world is turning right now because of just how society is set up and how disconnected we are to the natural world and how connected we are to the digital world. And I don't think there's any way out, but I think in the interim, I feel like an attempt to reconnect is going to help. I think generally, generationally, there's a way out. The problem is for our generation, I don't know if there's a way out. I think especially people like us that grew up without any sort of internet and then have watched it transform and completely take over the world. Whereas the idea of a world without internet is impossible to us. It doesn't even compute, but we grew up without it. So what happened? Well, we were taken over. We're taken over by some sort of digital entity. I don't think for us, I think that this world has to be figured out by the people that recognize that we've fucked up. Like we were talking about learning from mistakes, learn from other people's mistakes. They're going to learn from our mistakes. They're going to learn from our mistakes and they're going to be people who grew up just like every other really fucked up part of human civilization that people have managed to overcome and avoid, whether it's slavery or war with bows and arrows. They've figured out, like that was not the way to do it. Let's move past this. Let's figure out what the folly of our ancestors was and let's adjust accordingly. I agree with that.