Dual Clutch vs. Manual Transmission w/Matt Farah | Joe Rogan

Yeah, but the wide-body GT3RS with the vented fenders and- You can modify. You can modify later. You just complained about people who don't want to modify, and now you're complaining about modifying. Yeah, but all that extra effort, why don't they just fucking sell it to you with a stick shift? I don't know, bro. I don't know, man. Talk to the Germans. I can't fucking win. Look, they make a GT3 with a stick. They do. They make the Cayman GT4 with a stick. They make the Boxer Spider with a stick. You can buy a 911, any level of 911 with a stick. You can buy all the Boxers. You can buy the Turbo. Not the Turbo. They're the only ones you can count on, though. It seems like it's all going away. Even Corvette, the new Corvettes, double clutch. They said the new GT500, they haven't ruled out the possibility of having a stick shift, but- Well, so look, with the GT500, they just announced this thing. It's like 750 horsepower. I've driven a lot of really powerful manual transmission cars. For me, once the car goes over about 500, I don't want to shift anymore. Really? I don't when I'm driving it on a racetrack as fast as it will go. When I went to test the Corvette ZR1, the last front engine one, when it went just completely fucking bananas, right? 750 horsepower. I went to road Atlanta to drive it, and they had a manual, and they had an automatic for me to drive, and I drove the manual. It was so fucking fast that I did not feel comfortable taking my hand off the wheel to do the shifts. That makes sense. I was like, at this level of performance, I really need to have both my hands on the wheel. I'm a pretty decent driver. I'm not shit. I'm not the best, but I'm not shit. Then when I drove the automatic car, I went, okay, I feel way more comfortable at this pace with my hands on the wheel, but this eight speed automatic they have is the biggest punk of flaming shit ever put into a sports car. With the C8, with the new one, they got rid of the manual and decided to substantially improve the auto with a new dual clutch eight speed, which for you and for me is sad that there's no stick. It's sad. But I kind of get it because it's just sort of what progress looks like. I get it if you're going to take it to a race track. I do get it, but how many people are taking their goddamn Corvette to a race track? It's not even really about that. It's sadder. It's sadder than that. It's really about how do we get the zero to 60 time under three seconds? Because when they had the Z06, which was 650 horsepower, and then they had the ZR1, which was 750 horsepower, they couldn't get it to 60 any faster. Detroit is still so suck in fucking zero to 60 that that is important for some reason. Adding 100 horsepower didn't change the zero to 60 because of the front engine rear drive, you're just traction limited at that point. Just burnouts. By putting the engine in the back, you change the weight distribution. Now you've got a dual clutch eight speed instead of a manual seven speed. Now you can get in that two second range to 60, which doesn't improve the experience, but it does improve the number on that magazine cover. The number. But everybody know, I mean, how do you not know? It's a fucking fast car. You know it's fast. The GT 500 is a real bummer though, because that's such a muscle car. You know what's the same gearbox? It's a muscle car. It's the same version of the Tremec dual clutch from the Corvette is in the Mustang. Yeah. It has a different number of gears, incidentally. It's a seven speed in the Mustang and an eight speed in the Corvette, but it's same family of brand new Tremec dual clutch gearboxes. What has a wider contact with the tires? I don't know what the Mustang's got. If I had to guess. Seems narrower, right? If I had to guess, the Mustang had wider. The C8 Corvette is 305 rears. Really? That's it? With a mid engine car, what is interesting about a mid engine car is you find this a lot. I bet if you went out and looked at a Ferrari, like a 458 or something, you'd be shocked at how narrow the tires are. Really? Yeah. When you do a mid engine car, you can give up a lot of that huge fat rear rubber because the weight distribution doesn't necessitate it. Tire sizes are typically chosen by the weight distribution of the car. You're a 911, you're air cooled car, you're old one, right? You got big fat rears and you've got relatively skinny fronts. That's because that engine is over the rears. In a mid engine, I just looked this up for an unrelated thing. In the 458, the front tires are only 245s on that and the rear tires are 305s. Whereas a Corvette, your front tires are like 275, the old Corvette, front tires are 275 rears like a 335. That difference in weight distribution is how big of a difference you need in tires. That makes sense. Have you driven the GT500? No, I didn't get to do it yet, unfortunately. It looks fun. Someone posted a video, it ran a 10, six quarter mile out of the box. It's crazy. It's a very, very fast car. I cannot believe some of the cars that people can just buy. Well, speaking of which, that Porsche that you sent me the video. Yeah, the Taycan. I got to say it right. Taycan. Taycan. Yeah. We're going to fuck that one up for years. That thing looks preposterous because look, I know how preposterous my Tesla is. I tell everybody when they say, oh, you know, you have really fast cars. See that one right there? The one that looks like a dad car? That one blows all of them away.