Bill Maher and Joe Rogan on Janoris Jenkins “R Word” Controversy

Yeah, I mean, this is like what we're talking about with us growing up that life was rougher and life is easier today, but you have more access to information. So maybe it could be better. And then things seem to be moving in a better direction in terms of things being safer, less violence, less crime, less rape. And then people also get upset at you bringing up those statistics. That's where it's really interesting. And the thinker gets attacked for just stating statistical facts. And he's not making value judgments. He's just saying, hey, things are, if you look at the overall numbers of things, this is the safest time to be alive ever. And the people know, but what about this? What about that? It's a horrible hallmark of our era that we live in that facts almost always come second. Your political agenda comes first. And if it doesn't fit in, then we don't want to hear those facts. And that's the left and the right. Yeah, it is the left and the right. It's both. And it should be something that everybody rejects. It should be something that angers everyone. It shouldn't be tied to one party or another party. And it really should be something that if there's a real problem with communication in this society, one of them is the denial of actual facts and information. If we know things, we have rock solid statistics, whether it's about climate change, whether it's about war, the budget, whatever the fuck it is, if you have a real number and you want to spin and deny and like that, that's a giant problem. It's a giant problem. Right. I get madder at the left because I want them to be better and they should be better. And they're the science party and they're supposedly the fact people. I expect this shit from the right, denying climate change and so forth. They've been doing that for a long time. The left has this dirty thing. If you disagree with them in any way, you become an alt-right person. Right. I mean, it's obviously a small sliver of people that are doing this. Or a racist. Yeah. Boy, I got stuck in this alt-right category. I'm like, you guys are out of your fucking mind. Right, exactly. I've never voted right in my life. Right. I know. But there's a ... I feel like, sure as you do sometimes, a man without a country. Yes. And there's a group of us, Sam Harris. Yes. We've had on Jordan Peterson, Barry Weiss. Yeah. You know, I just ... We're all progressives. Yeah. But sensible progressives. Real progressives. Real progressives. We're not blindly ideological to our party. Right. And we don't chase these virtue signalers who are always, as a friend of mine said, they wake up offended. Yeah. And I'm always reading a story, like daily, I read something, and what goes through my mind is this country now is completely binary. There's only two camps. We're totally tribal. You're either red or blue, liberal or conservative. And everything that one side does, that anybody does that represents that side has to be owned by that entire side. Because people will go, well, you're the party of. So whenever there's something on the left that's cuckoo crazy, we all own it. Yeah. And that's one reason why Trump won. Sure. Because people, you go through the polling, his fans are not oblivious to his myriad flaws. What they love about him, what they all say they love is he wasn't politically correct. It's hard to measure how much people have been choking on that political correctness. They do not want to walk on eggshells. They do not want to think that one little misstep and they'll get fired or it'll be castigated. And these are not just famous people. I mean, these are just regular people. And I think when someone reads the kind of stories you see every day and it's an eye roll, and it's a eye roll at the left, that's when you lose people. I'll give you an example. About two weeks ago, the Giants, my football team, the New York football Giants, cut, I think his name is Janoris Jenkins. He's using the R word. Yes. We have to say the R word? No, you can say retarded. Okay. Well, we're just, we're not saying it. You gotta look like, oh my God. I don't know what the fucking rules are. Yes. Okay, first of all, I don't understand why that generation feels the need to engage with their fans on Twitter, but he was. And some guy was- Someone needs to teach him social media. Some guy was criticizing him and he's a good corner back or safety, whatever he is, and was criticizing him and he answered back. Again, I don't know why, but saying, here are my stats. I'm pretty good. I only can do my job, dot dot retard. Meanwhile, it would be better if he had three dots. I'm going to miss part of the story. I'm going to explain. So then the guy, the fan says, well, why does it matter? The team is losing. And that's when Janoris Jenkins said, I can only do my job, retard, and cut. Like- Cut from the team. Cut. Yeah. Like the next day. And first of all, I think he said it's something that I thought it was a hood thing. Maybe Janoris Jenkins didn't get the memo because he's not on Twitter 24-7 and living with the Woksters that we don't do this anymore. I think they offered him a chance to apologize and he said no. I think he did. Did he? I think he did. He did after they cut him. But yeah, I don't think he like stood- I insist on saying this. But it seems like there's no room anymore for someone just to go, oh, sorry, I didn't realize this was such a thing. Because they do move the goalposts often and they like to because it's easier to catch people that way. So how about just, oh, sorry, I guess we don't do this anymore, my bad, and move on with our lives instead of no, you're canceled, you're cut, you're irredeemable. It's hard. Ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And what I'm saying is every day there's some story like that and it just all goes into the bin left wing. And that's when people go, you know what? Trump's an asshole. I don't like him, but I don't want to live in that world. These people are even fucking crazier. And that is the great danger of reelecting him and very well may do it.