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Trae Tha Truth is a rapper, record producer, and philanthropist. His new album "Stuck In Motion" will be available October 13. https://onerpm.link/FirstClass

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Hey, good to see you. Cool, and what's up my brother? Hey, I got a question for you. And everyone who wears grills, all right, I got Invisalign on, and I'm trying to talk with Invisalign, and every time I've tried it, I bailed out of it. How the fuck do you talk so clear with a grill on? I think we just get used to it, especially from Houston. You know, it's just our culture. Yeah, I want to meet Paul Wall and ask him. He seems like the guy who understands grills more than anybody. Yeah, yeah. Because like Post Malone had one on, and then you hear him sing and talk, he sounds perfect, but I can hear it in my voice. He might be implanted. I don't know if his was a grill. Like implanted. Like what they did. They dig into your teeth and glue it in there. I think so. Yeah, I ain't hit that phase. How's yours on? Did your slides in, you could slide it out? Yeah, yeah, I don't eat with them. I just keep them on throughout the day. You ever leave it somewhere accidentally? Never. That's something people do a lot. They used to always, coming up younger, they used to put them in napkins and put them in their pocket and allowed them to throw them away and everything. Yeah. Yeah, I already lost one like that. Yeah, a lot of people did. Yeah, but I lose a grill. I just lost Invisalign, that's what I'm saying. It's like the wimpiest version of a grill. So what's happening, man? How you doing? Man, bliss just in work mode and all aspects, man. Work mode. What's work mode for you? Like what happens? It depends on which world, because you know, of course music wise, that's my first and foremost, but then the hometown hero side and then just helping people and being a daddy is just work all around the clock. Right, right. What is this hometown hero stuff? That's what they label me, you know. Well, they label me that in Houston, but not as got to the point they label me that everywhere, just for the help I do, whether it be hurricane disasters, whether it be just assisting with people, whether it be frontline for the community, whether it be fighting for justice, whether it be just assisting and caring for the town the way that I do. You know, my son named Houston, that's how much Houston I am. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun seeing you backstage at the Post Malone concert. Yeah, it's one of my little brothers, man. A lot of people don't realize the history with me and a lot of artists. Like I remember when Post was first coming up, that's how far back we go, man. I've always been supportive and just always had it back. So, you know, it's been that way with a lot of artists. So whenever they see me, it'd be super exciting. Yeah, no, it's cool. It's cool to see that respect. It's like a thing. You got to stop in and check in with Trey when you come to Houston. But you know, it ain't, it's not the forceful way. It's more of a fast take. No, no, a love way. A make-up, yeah. Yeah, no, it's a nice way. It's a nice way. You were saying you never smoked and you never drank your whole life. Yeah, never smoked, never drank, man. How did you dodge that? So, crazy story is, man, coming from where I come from, most people smoke and drink, you know, when they tend to go through stuff just dealing with life, you know, that's what kind of put their mind at ease. And I was always one of the people I felt like I'ma deal with it head up or whatever. However it hit me at that moment, it can't get no worse than that. So I always just decided to not to because at the end of the day, when I got done smoking or drinking, that's why I decided to do the reality still, gonna kick in, so I rather just deal with the shit head up. That's a good mindset. But smoking or drinking is fun. I watch everybody around me do it all day, every day. Well, there's nothing that sort of illuminates the problems with alcohol, like watching someone be drunk and you're sober. You know, man, I always been more of a protector my whole life, so I'm always just watching the atmosphere anyway, so it don't really bother me. I be watching out just to make sure everybody's straight at all times. Right, so you're like the designated driver. Keep everybody. I don't wanna be classified. I don't mean that way, you know what I'm saying? Just like the wise sober person in the room, keeping everybody together. Yeah, it is an interesting thing because we all know so many people that have ruined their lives because of that. Yeah, yeah. You know, just gets away from them. That's all they wanna do, smoke and drink. Your life just kinda gets away from you. You're just escaping it instead of being in it. You know, man, something that I realize everybody not built to be that strong and everybody not able to deal with a lot of things. Sometimes that's their scapegoat and I'm one of the ones not to judge. If it suits you and that's for you, you gotta do what you gotta do. That's a good way of looking at it too because that is true, that we all have different levels of ability of handling shit. And especially when it comes, but when you get into tricky things like alcohol or pills, pills is a tricky one. It feels good. It doesn't seem like anybody can handle those. We had Kurt Angle on the other day from WWE and he developed a pain pill problem because he broke his neck like five times. Damn, I didn't even know that. He got fucked up, his neck is fucked up, it's crazy. And we watched some clips of him doing it, but this guy won the gold medal in the Olympics with a broken neck and he still got hooked on pills. I could imagine only because once you get used to that pain and that's what's putting you at ease, you gotta, you go from a couple to, I mean, just gonna get a few more in so I can make something good throughout the day. Yeah, it just becomes a part of your body. You can't get away from it. But you gotta be cautious, man, because now you got fentanyl and all that other shit. Every time I see something with that, I rarely see somebody make it through that. That one for sure gonna kill you, so you gotta be cautious. Yeah, that's the real problem with getting stuff off the street. If you're trying to get coke off the street, they're not making it at the Pfizer lab. It's not like you're not getting the same batch every time. You don't know what the fuck you're getting if you don't know the guy who's buying it from the people. You don't know what the source is. It's so crazy, you can even find weed laced with the shit. So it's just, man. That's what I've heard. Yeah, everything can be fucked up, man. Why would they lace weed with it? Never know, never know. But as many people as this shit affecting or hitting and passing from it, it's definitely something that they're doing. You know, because weed is illegal in a lot of states, 90% of the weed that's grown, that's sold in these states where it's illegal is grown on public land by the cartels. Because in the places where weed is legal, like California, it's only a misdemeanor if you're growing weed without a permit. It's not a big deal. So they just set up shop in the national forests in a place where they're not supposed to be and they grow weed. Because if they get caught, it's not that big of a deal, but they want to protect their product too. So these guys who used to be like game wardens, now they have tactical teams with dogs and shit and MP4s and machine guns and they're going through the woods fighting the cartel. It's wild. You know, you see it in the movies, but that's what happened in real life for real, for real. For real, for real. And he was explaining to me how it's really dangerous because they use all these super toxic pesticides and shit that no one else is allowed to use. You can't really use that if you're growing, especially if you're growing something organically, which is ideal. So they're using all kinds of shit that's like super toxic. Yeah, and then that's, that means it's going to weigh down and affect the people for sure, for sure. Yeah. And isn't it crazy that all that is just because it's illegal? Man, I'm not sure when, but I'm assuming they're going to have to make it legal in Texas at some point, man. At some point, it seems silly, especially because Texas is supposed to be all about freedom. You know, I had a conversation with this guy, Alex Berenson yesterday. He's a reporter. He used to work for the New York Times. And he's, you know, he pointed out, it's like everybody wants freedom, but if you get that freedom and everything's legal, you're going to have a bunch of drug overdoses you wouldn't have. You're going to have a bunch of people that are addicted. You wouldn't have gotten addicted if it was illegal. They wouldn't have bought it. And because it's legal, you're going to have to deal with that. And it's true. It's an uncomfortable truth. The flip side of that is, I've yet to see anybody really pass away from weed. Yeah. Even from cancer, right? Right. And you know, if you're smoking it every day, they're not getting lung cancer. That's crazy. Right. So that's the only part they get it confused while they haven't made it illegal as fast. I mean, if there's things like, you know, the opiates, if they're legal, you can get those, but you can't get weed, that seems silly. That just seems silly. That doesn't make any sense. I think honestly, man, the reason why it's probably not is just because they haven't figured out a way to monetize off of it. Well, the problem is you can't patent it, right? So like if you're selling, you know, whatever it is, some thyroid medication or something, you can patent that. And then it's your medication that you invented and then you own the patent on it. So you get all the profits from it. But when it's a plant, that whole model gets like thrown into the bushes. Like you can't do shit. Everybody could grow it. You just saw all you need is dirt and water and you can get the drug. And then a name, because you can rename it as close as you want. Yeah, and then you can name as many strains as you want. It's at the Wild West out there. But you couldn't, if it was patented, you know, man, maybe that's what they would want to do is make like a genetic strain, like a Monsanto type weed where they could completely control it. Yeah, definitely. Because that's the, you know, because they know that's gonna be their money maker. Yeah, it seems like it's just such a conundrum because I, you know, I admire people like you that no alcohol, no weed, no nothing, just discipline. I admire that. It just, it builds us to be a little stronger, you know? Because man, I done been through so much shit in life and watched a lot of people go through stuff, stuff that make them take their life because it may be real crucial. But when you get to getting to the point of where I am, you deal with everything, head up. It's like, it ain't really much, it ain't like it's a breeze or a cakewalk every time, but for the most part, we'd be like, man, it'd be ideal with it. And you know, that's what keep me going. Well, I guess also if you get used to just dealing with shit, then you get strong at dealing with shit. Whereas if you're just drowning it out all the time, then that becomes a habit. But it's so crazy. It became even a bigger habit for me, right? I don't know how long ago it was when I got shot, but when I got shot, they ended up, they actually the crazy thing is they never, they didn't do surgery or anything, right? I got shot. It was so many people outside the hospital that they were like, man, we need to get him out of here. Cause they ain't, they never seen nothing like that. So they don't know if the people outside was against me or was for me. They just never seen it. So long story short, left, got home, cleaned around, it just got the bleed and the stop. But days later, they tried to prescribe me medicine. I think I took the medicine probably for the first five, six days. And then once I decided that I could make it through half a day without it, I'm just like, man, fuck it. I'm just, it can't get no worse than this. You know what I'm saying? It only get better. So dealing with that, that's just, it developed a habit of anything I do. I just go at it about that way. I don't know if you ever seen on YouTube, I took the bullet out of myself. Jesus. Yeah, but it's just. Where'd you get shot? I got shot directly in my back and it shattered my shoulder blade and it's bent to my shoulder. So it set there for like four or five years. And it's so crazy right when you hear people tell you the story. There it is. Yeah. So that's me taking it out. So it was pushing out. How long after you got shot? Yeah, about five. It could have been like five years. Five years. So the bullet was still, it was working its way out of your skin for five years. Wow. Dude, that's crazy. And went on and continued my day. Did you get it stitched up at least? No. Really? Yeah, but it healed like it was supposed to, man. The fact that I'm not doing surgery on me when I got shot and it healed, that was a cakewalk at that point. Why didn't they wanna do surgery? One, I don't know if for them not had, I guess for how many people was there so fast and then them not being able to go in and know if it's somewhere that was damaging or however you wanna put the words. But that shit, they were like, man, we gotta get him up out here. And that was just the reality of it. But the only bad thing is, cause they didn't move it and it was there, it got tangled up in a lot of my nerves and muscle. So like if you ever pay attention to me, like I can't lift my arm directly straight up or do a lot of different things cause it was sitting in there for so many years. That's gotta piss you off cause they could have just pulled that out, right? Go ahead. Yeah, definitely cause it was so close to the edge. Cause from the time I got shot to the time it came out, you could always feel it. So it was that close. That's the thing about doctors, like you get a really good doctor or you can get a doctor that's like, well, I can leave it in there. And it's crazy, right, man? Cause I help a lot of kids in life. And you watch some of these doctors, they take a personal liking and loving to these kids and just trying to figure out ways to help them or even some of the elders. And then you got some people like, it ain't gonna work, they ain't gonna make it. You know what I'm saying? That's the fucked up part about it. Yeah, well, I think some people get real calloused. Unfortunately, I see a lot of people die and then they lose their feeling for it. And other people never do. That's the best thing about great doctors is you just really appreciate them. If someone really cares, you really appreciate them. That extra, that extra, let's try one more time. Sometimes can change everything as opposed to, there's nothing else we can do. Yeah, especially when someone's got a bullet in their shoulder. Just get it out of there, man. Especially if it's right there. Like how far below the surface was it like when you first went in? No, so when I first went in, it was literally, it was just bulging like, but like this, you could do it. So if you do this, you could always, always feel it. So though, like when you look at the video that was on YouTube, by that point, it broke the skin on its own. Cause you know, you'll hear stories like bullets going, they'll push their way out. Yeah. You'll hear the stories during rain or cold weather that'll make you feel some way. Like that shit really for real. It makes sense. I mean, there's a piece of metal in you. That's what everybody says that has like broken arms when they get plates, they get plates and their arms are in their legs. A lot of fighters say that when it's cold out, it just sucks. Oh, I didn't even think of it. I ain't never had a broken bone. So yeah. When they break, you know, a lot of times, like when you break your forearm, they have to do that. They have to screw it in. Like when they put the pins in. It's pretty gnarly, man. You ever seen anybody get it done? A lot of people, they do it from a spinning backfist. They throw a spinning backfist and they hit the forearm. So yeah, they hit their forearm and someone's forehead and it snaps that way, or they're blocking kicks. But when they do it, man, the whole arm has to be cut open. They got to put a bar in there and screws and tighten it all together. They take it back out or it just stayed up there? It depends. You can get it taken back out. Some guys have to get it taken back out because the screws start backing out and they start poking through the skin. It makes it really painful, you know, especially if you're trying to kick or block kicks or punch or anything like that. And that's crazy. As much as a DYHOD UFC fan, my one thing about that is watching them kick. I don't understand how they don't break their leg every time they kick. Even though I know they do different procedures to make it hard. Yeah, the different procedures don't really prevent it. It makes it definitely tougher. Like there's some Thai guys who have crazy shins because they've been like kicking bamboo trees and kicking pads and heavy bags and bags with sand in them. They've been doing that their whole lives. So they have like really dense, like really dense shin bones and they just swap people with those like their baseball bats. This dude, I think his name is Malapai and he was fighting in a lion fight. And this dude would just go shin to shin with everybody. Just kick him in the shins, just kick him in the shins. They just couldn't tolerate it. He would hit so fucking hard and just his bones were so dense because he'd been doing it forever. But even those guys, like they have to be careful. I'm sure Anderson Silva has very dense bones. I was just gonna say that was one of the most. That kick was crazy. I was crazy to watch like an all time great snap his leg like that. Like no. You know, that was one of the favorites. Still one of the favorites though. Oh, he's one of the greatest of all time. One of the greatest of all time. He was a master at finding people's chins. He's just a master. Master at like finding Wednesday opening, blam! He was so good. You know somebody that people slept on that if you had to be original UFC fan, Vitor Belford-Hans was probably some of the coldest when he was young coming in. Yeah, nobody had hands like him at 19. He fought Trey Telegman. That was his first fight at the UFC. I remember. He from Texas, right? He from Dallas, yeah. Yeah, I believe so. He was one of the lion's den guys. Fucking Jack, big huge dude. And they thought Vitor, because he was a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu from the Carlson Gracie family, they thought that he was just gonna do Jiu-Jitsu. And this dude just comes out and puts on a boxing clinic. And you're like, whoa! He couldn't get away from him. And who else? Did he get Van der Ley Silva? Scott Foroza was the next fight he had. And then yeah, he fought Van der Ley Silva. We ran across the ring, he just blitzed him with punches. That was crazy. See where you'll find that. Vitor Belford versus Van der Ley Silva. I mean, this is crazy. And Bruno was so crazy at the time. He didn't do Van der Ley no justice because nobody knew it. He ended up to turn out to be good as can be. But Belford flushed right through that shit. Well, he just, he caught him and kept him caught. He just banged once and then Vitor will just flurry. He flurried. But yeah, you're right. Because Van der Ley did become an all time great after that too. Yeah, but see then people didn't know. There you go. I mean, it's just a blitz. I mean, Vitor had some crazy hands, just crazy hands. And he was terrified of Van der Ley. Everybody was terrified of Van der Ley. I didn't know that. That's why they called him the axe murderer. That was his nickname. I didn't know that at all. Van der Ley would just stare at you like this and do this shit with his hands before the fights. And everybody's like, oh, this fucking guy. I think Vitor, man, once he gained all the weight, that's when he ended up taking the first ill. Well, he got way too big. But the problem with Vitor at that time, I think, was that you're starting to see this emergence of these big giant wrestlers. So Mark Coleman was the best example. And Mark Coleman was like, 260 solid as a rock, giant jacked, super athletic wrestler. And he took everybody down. And everybody's like, oh my God, this guy's so big. I gotta get big too. They felt like that was the only way to beat Mark Coleman. So there was a bunch of guys who started getting really big. But that comes with a gas tank problem. You can't get that big with that frame. He just couldn't survive. And then when he fought Randy Couture, Randy just outworked him. And he just got tired. Randy was very good. Randy was very good. A lot of people don't, man. So I used to, that's how far back I go. I used to have the BHS as to when they were doing the tournaments the whole day where you fight more than once in the year. So I used to watch UFC like crazy, man. The tournaments were wild. They fought more than once in a night. I don't think they could do that no more. Well, they did it in glory kickboxing a few years back. They did it in LA. I think it was called Last Man Standing. And I think those guys, I wanna say they fought three times in a night against world-class kickboxers. Just bananas. It's like- Who else was, Tank was good back then. Tank Hatter. Oh, Tank Abbott, yeah. Oh, he was an animal, yeah. He was the first guy to figure out to wrap your hands. He was the first, Tank Abbott was the first guy to figure out, like if you have MMA gloves on, you actually could punch harder. Because it's harder to punch someone bare knuckle. You break your hands easier. But if you could really wrap your hands up and put gloves on, it's probably better. And so Tank would, he was one of the first guys to put those gloves. He might've been the first guy, but he's definitely one of the first guys who was like a big power puncher who put gloves on. Yeah, when he did the dude with the dude was hanging with his neck down. You remember that one? Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, Scott Nelmark, I believe. Yeah, no, he was an animal. He was the worst case scenario, he was the guy who liked to drink, talked a lot of shit and can fight. Like, God damn it. And he fought anybody, he didn't give a fuck. Just fought anybody, whoever. He fought anybody they put in front of him. Never said no. Yeah, Tank was one of them. He was one of those guys too, and he would show up, people would go crazy. They loved it. They loved it, Tank was there. You know somebody else like these, they even though he's my brother, but still the beast the same way people love no matter how. Oh, yeah. We were just talking about him when we had Kurt Angle on. I was saying if anybody could transition from their MMA career into pro wrestling, it's the beast. Yeah, yeah. He could do it. Derrick Lewis could 100% be a superstar pro wrestler. 100%. If he decided to retire from fighting, he would be huge. He's hilarious. Yeah, definitely. And he's gigantic. He's got all the qualities that you need to be like a good pro wrestler. Yeah, and the people love him. You know it's so crazy, me and him, we saved a lot of lives together during Hurricane Harvey. We went and took care of Beaumont, Port Arthur. Matter of fact, it's so crazy. I got my lifted truck out there. That's the reason I bought it. I bought it because of him. Because at first I was doing rescues and boats and doing different stuff, but then Derrick came through and the lifted truck and we were going past the boats in the water. So at that point I ended up buying a truck, but we saved a lot of people together. You know, that's one of my close, close brothers. That's why whenever you all see me at the fights and he fighting, everybody be looking because I be on my feet, yeah. Feeling like crazy. No, Derrick's a man. He's hilarious. I'll never forget when he took his shorts off. I'm like, Derrick, why are your shorts off? My balls is odd. But it paid off and they got a landscape commercial. He should have a landscape commercial. He should have a whole campaign. He's hilarious. Yeah, it's a Westport, huh? I mean, that's how I got to meet you, from you coming to the fights. But it's, yeah, I appreciate that you enjoy it too. Yeah, shout out John Anick too. You know, he for sure was, he like, man, you and Joe, I got to get y'all two together, man. Did he say that? Yeah, definitely. John Anick is the man. I love that too. That guy's the best play-by-play commentator in the history of sport. He's the best. He's the GOAT. He's so smooth, man. When he called that Leon Edwards head kick right before Leon landed it on Camaro Usman, because they were saying, we were talking about it, like, you know, he's down in this fight. And, you know, it's like, you know, his corner's yelling at him, don't give up, Rock. Go get him. And John Anick goes, but that is not the cloth from which he is cut. And then, boom, he lands a headshot. I mean, it's crazy. It's like a scene, like, if that was in a movie, you'd go like, that's too dead on. No one would make a call like that. But y'all see it so much as proudly, man. Y'all see a lot of stuff coming. Well, now, because I watch y'all experience, some shit y'all don't be seeing. I didn't see that coming, man. I did not see that coming. That was crazy. See if you can find that, play that. Because it's like a historical moment. When Anick says it, it's like, he captured it. It's really like a scene in a movie. It doesn't, it's like. See, show it to it. Show it. That's got music behind it. Oh, okay. Oh, you have two things going at the same time? The Tink had a video going on and didn't know I had music coming. Okay. So listen to this, because this is crazy, that he nails it. From Leon Edwards. But that is not the cloth from which he is cut. I mean, that is a dejected. No. Someone, they got ya. They got ya. Everybody's gotta edit everything. These motherfuckers, they can't just leave shit alone. Like from a main, I linked it from under, like an article about the call too. They got it. Well, that's it. Yeah, John Anax, man. He's just so smooth. That's a hard job, man. The job of the color commentator is way easier. The job of like my job and Daniel's job, like when DC and I do it, we're just having fun. Like we don't have to do any traffic. Like he's like directing traffic and this brought to you by Modello. He's gotta do all that stuff and you know. I never noticed a difference. I thought, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, if you notice the difference, if you pay attention, it's like he does much more work. He's way better. Like he's like coordinated. Like he's got notes and he's got index cards and shit. He has to say certain things at certain times about prime energy drink and this movie's coming up and this and that. Like there's little things you have to jump in. Toyotires, like you have to jump in with all that stuff. I thought that was all, yeah, I didn't know it was just him. DC and I are like eating snacks and having a good time watching the fights. Yeah, see he's got cards and shit. Look at him all jazzed up. Yeah, he gets excited. He's the man. Yeah. Love that dude. The three of us together, so much fun. Definitely man, I watch all the time. Man, you know my wishes that I really wanna see. I wanna see Derek get a championship and I wanna see Dustin Poirier get one. Number two. Two of my closest, man. They be right there at the edge, man. Yeah. Even the time that, the thing with Derek, most people ain't gonna be able to withstand the flurry once he gets you. Once he hits you. Yeah, but a couple of people got lucky and got through it and just threw me out. But that's what I want. I want at least them to get their chance to beat champ one time, man. Well listen, Derek can knock anybody out. I mean, that crazy flying knee that he opened up his last fight. It was worth it that he practiced it. Yeah, it was crazy. He just nailed them right out the gate. If Derek does that to anybody, they're on skates. He hit so hard. He's got the most knockouts of anyone in the history of the division. Yeah, definitely do. And the crazy thing with him, it can be at the end of the fight. All it takes is one for him. He's always got it. Yeah, he carries that power late. I thought Dustin even was gonna win this last fight. That kick came, you know? But Dustin, I feel like boxing while Dustin still, he mastered that from his weave game to everything. He's very good. He's very, very good. But so is Gagee. Yeah, not to take none from him. And Dustin got him in the first fight. The first fight, Dustin got him. And Dustin Ruther got him. And it was a hell of a war. Gagee got him in this one. But the way he got him, like, oh my god, that head kick. And the crazy thing was it's in the same arena in Salt Lake City that a year later from the Kamaro Usma knockout. It's basically the same knockout. It's the same knockout. The way Leon Edwards knocks out Kamaro with the left leg is exactly what Justin Gagee did with the right leg. Same thing. It shows the punch, the kicks behind the punch. Same thing. Amazing. Yeah, crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah, somebody played a video, or somebody made a video of the two of them back to back. See, we can find that. It's like you could see one plays out, and then the other one plays out. And it's almost identical, just mirrored, just the different legs. Left leg versus right leg. But Justin's a monster, man. Justin Gagee, he's on fire right now. He's on fire. I mean, he's only lost to the best in the division, like Charles Oliver and Khabib and a couple other guys like Dustin. But right now, he's on fire. He's on fire, especially that last fight. And then the fight for that with Faziv, that guy's a beast too. And that was an amazing fight. So Justin is like, he's at the top of the heap. I would love to see him fight for the title. Whoever wins this weekend with the, or when is that? October 21, right? Now, when is the Olivera one? Hold on. Yeah. That sounds correct. October 21, yeah. I just found the video. When that card takes place, that's going to be a very interesting thing to see who gets the next shot at it. Because Justin Gagee versus the winner, that would be really interesting. Look at this. So here's Leon's kick on the left and then Justin's on the right. Same exact thing. Wild, right? That's crazy. Wild. And that's two head kicks to win the title a year apart from each other in Salt Lake City. Like Salt Lake City's got some magic in the air. Definitely. If that happened back in the arena. Yes. Yeah. It's a crazy sport, man. When did you first start getting into it? Oh, man. Since way back then with the Gray Seas and the Ken Sham Rocks, I used to get them from Blockbuster. That's when I used to. I still probably got them big chest tapes, man. That's how I made it. Yeah. So it was in the beginning phases, man. That's how I got introduced to it, too. I got UFC 2, picked it up in a Hollywood video. And I was like, what is this? And I remember immediately thinking, oh my god, I have to learn jiu-jitsu. These guys are all getting killed. When you watch Hoist Gracie strangle everybody and break everybody's arms, you're like. And people, I don't know how tall he is in person, but he probably one of the smallest people it seemed, like, looking at it from a fan standpoint. He's skinny, too, right? Oh, yeah, Hoist was 176 pounds. When he was tapping out guys like Dan Severn, who was like a beast, 250 pound wrestler, he was so good, man. And no one knew what to do. They had never seen Gracie jiu-jitsu before. And Hoist just, he was the perfect advertisement for jiu-jitsu, too. Because it wasn't like he was built, like he wasn't like Jack, like Tyron Woodley or something, or someone like super Jack, Brock Lesnar. No, he was like a thin, normal looking guy who fucked everybody up. I'm talking about literally with choke the shit out there. Choke the shit out of people. And he was doing it to everybody, man. It was interesting. It was really interesting, because so many people just didn't know what to do with him. And he was fighting with that gi on, which I think, if they let him keep fighting with the gi on, I think in a lot of his future fights, he would have had better results, too. Because he had some fights with no gi. And it's like, man, Hoist with the gi was just a master. A master at choking you with it, a master at getting you to grab it so he could initiate grappling exchanges. Yep, that was his, that was his thing. That one family, and particularly Hoist, but that one family, they changed martial arts forever. For doing it, still fight, none of them fighting. No, no, none of them. I mean, they're all quite a bit older, you know? But talk about a family that had all time great jiu-jitsu people coming out of it. I mean, that's insane. That one family really influenced the way martial arts is expressed all over the world. People are learning Brazilian jiu-jitsu in Russia. Like, they're learning, you know, they're learning it in France, and they're learning it in Ireland, and one family. It's crazy, man. It's really crazy. If anybody learned it from him, it would be him. People need to go do their research and go back and watch some of his fights. Looking at him, you had no idea. Yeah, yeah, Hoist was something really special. Because we had never seen that before. You know, it was the first time we had ever seen something where the martial art was more important in size and strength. Like, if you were actually a smaller person who's proficient in this martial art, because that's what most martial arts promise you, that you would be able to beat a bigger person, but, oh, there's some physical issues. Like, if you're a 135-pound guy and you're fighting Derek Lewis, well, you got a real problem. You got a real problem. You got a real problem, a size problem, that I don't think you're gonna be able to surmount. He's gonna slap your ass across the ring. He hits you once you're in a coma. There's no way. It's just, he's too big. You're not gonna be able to just take him down. It's gonna be wild. He's gonna throw you off him. He's gonna kick you. He's gonna punch you. You're fucked. He's too big. But with Jiu-Jitsu, it became, if he didn't know Jiu-Jitsu and Hoist got ahold of him, he could avoid the damage, drag him to the ground, and submit him. And we had never seen that before. It was always, if you saw two guys slugging it out, generally they were either the same size, if it was like a boxing or a kickboxing fight, or if they weren't, the big guy always killed the small guy. Always. The UFC was the first time we saw this one guy, who was like, normal size guy, not crazy muscles, nothing. Just dominate everybody. We're like, what is he doing? Yeah, he definitely was one of the faces. Yeah, what is he doing? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Then when you first went to see one live, when was that? Crazy, I think Derek had me come out to, it was in Houston. That was my first time. It was him. I was with him and John Jones. And we were given out, we actually gave our bump boxes too. And from there, me and Dana got real close, and just the whole team, and it's been that way since. I ended up doing a deal with Dana, not long after, as far as the licensing stuff with bump box. So that's why you see UFC across a lot of our stuff, and a lot of our stuff within what they got going on. Oh, that's awesome. So you guys got a collaboration together. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's why you see me every time, at the fights you'll see me backstage, but when we do the weigh-ins and stuff, yeah, we make sure we take care of all the fighters and other stuff. You know what's great that you gave me? That tumbler that has a speaker at the bottom of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did a partnership with Gronkowski. And it's actually growing. People really still ain't even realizing this is a speaker on the cup. They just thinking it's a cool shaker cup, but no, it's something dope, man. It's a great idea. Well, actually, you got the first, and Post probably gonna be mad, because I got to get here, but you got the first cornhole with the speakers. You know, we own the rights to that. Any cornhole that has any type of music on it, that's us. So we had a first official cornhole with speakers on it, and you can pair them together. So as you play in the game, you can just buy about. All right. Yeah. That's a great beach game. Definitely. But I can't believe it's on the S&M now. Yeah, tailgate and beach. Yeah, it's fun. Oh, it's a sport now on TV? I think it's on TV. Oh, yeah. There's people that are surprisingly really good at it. Let me see. Let me see some fucking broke cornhole. Like, what do you win? Bunch of money, or? Yeah, they do like tournaments in Vegas, I think, at the end of the day. But like, let's see if I can find one with a lot of views. I've seen they're calling out what they need to do, and they just do it. That's crazy. It's like the whole three hours, hold on a second. Yo, Bumpbox been, man, it's been a blessing for us. Shout out to all my partners there. We took the company from just a few radios, just getting them out there to NAS worldwide. So here's the World Championships, American Cornhole League. Okay, this is the top shots. Let's see. These guys stand around a lot. Yes, they do. One in the hole. But he did it without hitting the other bags, which is kind of like, that's pretty fucking tough to do. Is that better? If, yeah, because they're probably, those bags are probably tied to the other team. Right. So if you knock them in, they get the points. If you don't do that, then you get the points. Oh, that's crazy. This guy's doing it with a mask on. I hope, I missed. So you see how- No, he actually got it and knocked the other one off. Did he? You see how it's standing up with the- Sorry, buddy. Oh, everybody has a, this must have been during COVID. I'm sorry. They probably forced him to wear that mask. You heard me, Joe? You see how it's standing up with the legs? So wherever the legs are, those actual speakers. Nice. What a great idea. Yeah, they're making these people wear masks. How stupid is this? But we're gonna look back on the masks and go, what the fuck were we doing? What the fuck were we doing? But COVID fucked up a lot of shit for everything, man. At this point, I realized just from helping so many people in the community in general, I realized how damaging it was. Business-wise, I watched how damaging it was because now if you pay attention to some of the new movies that come out, it just goes straight to streaming at this point. Yes. Yeah, so I don't know if that helped money for the movie, but it seemed like it definitely hurt. I don't think it does. And I don't think it's good for the actors either. I think that's part of the strike. I'm kind of speaking at a turn here because I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. Is that part of it? Is that they want more money from streaming? Yeah, but it's a lot of the actors that are not top-build type people, they can pay one fee and then they're never gonna get residuals so that they're trying to get some of those residuals and stuff's getting resold. That's definitely part of it. And there's other things involved too. Bro, you know what they're doing that's wild? Some of these studios are trying to make people sign contracts if you do background work, where they could just use your likeness from then on so they could repurpose you in other background scenes as CGI. Damn, they're like, kind of like them licensing your name. Yeah. That's a permanent there, I guess you would say. For like nothing. They're just. That's, that's shit crazy. That's the culture of people that aren't stars over there in movies though. Extras are not, they don't think about it that way. It's really interesting because like, they're going to be able to make movies with them. They're gonna be able to make a movie with you, or speak Chinese and you, you know, you run an army somewhere. I mean, they can do whatever they want. They can, with CGI and with this new AI voice stuff, they could literally do whatever they want. And they could turn any person who's already been in a bunch of films where they have your face, they could put you in all kinds of scenes. Like we're real close to them not needing actors anymore, which is kind of weird. Yeah, and that's, and that even just not just the actors, just even with us with music, at first when they say something about it and they may say something about it, you can put a Michael Jackson or somebody else on the same record. You know, of course you'd be curious to be like, shit, dope, I wonder what that sound like. But then when you start thinking about it, they damn, they won't really need us at some point because now they making your voice sound the same, they're making it look the same. Like it's just the shit weird. But one thing I know, man, the bigger companies, they don't find a way to block this shit somehow, some way, because that's taking all the money. It's definitely gonna change things, right? Like that Drake song that got put out, that was a fake Drake song, that AI created Drake song, people loved it. Yeah. They can do wild shit now, man. It's like, we're not that far away from them being able to replicate full movies, all fake people. You know, how precious. I'll be watching from a distance, like I'm watching a lot of the robot stuff start to really come to life now, you know? And it's just... Does it freak you out? Yeah, so for two reasons. One, because definitely at this point, shit, anything, if anything go wrong at this point, we damn their fuck, because they build them down there invincible. But two, the other part that freaked me out is, they show this shit in movies years back, and everything that they show is coming to be that exact. Think about it, even with COVID, right? If you go look at some of the other movies where you have different pandemics, same shit. So then when you go to seeing shit with the robot, what year Will Smith came out with that movie? I, Robot? Yeah. That was great. That could've been, was that 10 years ago? Maybe all of them. Maybe more. Yeah, but to see that shit now, it's like they be knowing. It was crazy. What was it? 20 years ago. That's even crazy. 20 years ago and now look at what we dealing with right now. Yeah, we're about 10 years away from that being real. You know, they've already developed these very lifelike robots. We're doing the human, first human neural link. Oh my God. And this is what Elon just tweeted an hour ago with that. When a neural link is combined with Optimus robot limbs, the Luke Skywalker solution can be real, can become real. Holy fuck. Click on that, man. Let me see that. This is, oh, this is actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just showing like what it would look like. I thought it really was that. Not yet. How could they have this? Probably one day they'll just have a fake hand. Yeah, they're getting the first person. They're looking for someone with quadriplegia right now. Whoa. Whether or not they found that person over the last few days, I don't know. Whoa, we are watching something. We are, we're watching the seeds of something that's going to overcome the human race. Yeah, and that shit is not good. That shit is just when you think about it. But of course, you know, you think that shit will be far gone past our time, but then you still got to think of our kids and those generations, because it's definitely going to be dangerous. It's definitely going to be dangerous, but yeah, they're going to have our kids and their kids are going to have a totally different world than what they live in. Yeah, especially with the, who you watch movies with the flying car shit. Now they really technically getting it together. That is the last thing you want. People have a hard enough time just slamming into each other on the street, on the ground. We found this yesterday that there's a flying taxi warehouse opening up in Ohio next month, or next year later this year. Whoa. Is it true they got one in New York? Are you going to fly in one of those things? I have no idea. Do they have one in New York already? That's not true. Did they start doing that? I don't know why they would do it in New York. There is one right there. Yeah, New York definitely has like the blade system, which is like Uber helicopter kind of thing. I don't know if they have something like this. Uber helicopter, they have that? And that's in the, they use that. That's part of what the problem was in the cut gems. Like that wasn't around then. Remember he uses that helicopter to fly from, Oh yeah. Do it from like the, from Manhattan to the airport and just get home traffic, get there in 20 minutes. Sure. Helicopters freak me out. I don't know about these. I went up with Bill Burr. It was a lot of fun. Bill Burr is a helicopter pilot. Took me around. He's one of my favorite comedian, man. I don't know if it's his voice or what, but yeah. Oh, he's hilarious. He's so good. Such a good guy, but he's a pilot. And so he took me in the helicopter around downtown. You can kind of go wherever you want. It is like a flying car. That's what they thought the flying car was going to be. They thought helicopters when they first invented them, they thought it was going to be a flying car. No, I didn't know that. Yeah, that was the, see if you can find the original helicopter. Because I think that's literally what they were selling it as. What do you mean? The original helicopter that was just right. Not Leonardo DiCaprio. Invention of. Da Vinci. Oh, yeah, right. He wrote it down, right? He wrote it. Original helicopter. Flying car. See if it says that. Because I think that's kind of the concept. They thought, oh, we'll get helicopters. And then people just fly around in helicopters. And then I think they bailed on that. Because I think they realized, you want knuckleheads banging blades 10,000 feet above cities. If you watch people bump in traffic now, and just. Exactly. Someone's on their phone, flying around in a helicopter. Sweet, my tics are mad. Yeah, not good. Definitely not good. Yeah, it's, I don't know, man. I'm all for freedom. But I don't want people falling out of the sky in a people's houses either. Yeah, you know. I don't know, helicopters, I don't really feel comfortable in helicopters. I'm more cool with a plane. Do you ever do a tour bus thing? Do you do tour buses ever? Yeah, yeah, sometimes, man. But you know, we get, we so comfortable now, we just jump in a load of Suburbans and get to where we gotta go. Because you know, even when, I think my last tour, me and Tia did, we were on tour buses. But even then, you know, more so just when we trying to get to the next city, because ideally we still gonna go to a hotel and do what we gotta do, so yeah. Oh, so you don't sleep on the tour bus? You do, if you going from a city and you may have a six to eight hour stretch, you got somewhere to lay down as opposed to having to sit up sleeping in the Suburban or something. I don't feel comfortable sleeping in those things, because I feel like if this thing crashes, I don't want to be asleep in this bunk bed. I ain't never thought of it that way. No? Yeah, no. That would be bad. That's bad. Very bad. Real bad. Isn't that how Gloria Estefan broke her back? How do I know that? I think so. I think that's true. I think her tour bus crashed. What happened? In the Miami, yeah. 1990. That's what happened? Snow covered highway, Scranton, Pennsylvania, semi truck, four hours of surgery, spinal surgery, yeah. That's what I'm saying. You just opened my eyes to that. I literally just talked to somebody two days ago at Drake concert who has tour buses. He was like, man, next time you wanna, he told me next time you wanna go out with this tourin', cause like my album getting ready to come out. So either that or even if you wanna take the tour bus when you going to go help during disasters, you can take the bus out. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, yeah. You gonna make me think it depends on how far that drive is. Yeah, don't fall, just don't lay down. Seems like you should be the seatbelt. Cause that's the thing about tour buses too, people are driving around. It's almost like they're in a green room. It's like, bro, we're moving. Put the fucking seatbelt on. Let's not die. You don't do that in a regular car, right? Definitely don't. For a good reason. Cause you don't wanna go through the windshield. So put your fucking seatbelt on, bro. But you know, everybody wants to have a good time. That's the weird thing about like limos and tour buses. One of the things I heard about limos is when they crash, the real scary thing is people's heads slam into each other. I could see that cause they really, limos you rarely ever see seatbelt. Yeah, well, you know, if they are, people aren't wearing them. And then, you know, when they slam on the brakes, you go flying and you go flying into each other and you could fucking headbutt each other at 35 miles an hour, you know? It's like not good. You think of the abrupt stop of like the violent action of some accidents. If you're not in a seatbelt and you're in a limo together, man, you could get fucked up. Yeah, because you gotta realize on a time of impact, you know, usually when you see something coming, you can brace yourself. But when it's unexpected, it's a wrap. You're not even, you're not even bracing. You just feel the driver hit the brakes. You don't know what to do. And then bam, not good. Where are your seatbelt kids? Yeah, definitely do that, man. I was trying to find what you were asking me to look for and I can't find it. And there's someone across this. There's something called a Model A, a LEF. A LEF, a LEF. Have you seen this? It's a flying car. And they're saying it's available now. It's 300 grand. I haven't found a video of it flying, but this is at the Detroit Car Show. It's got wheels here on like normal size with the wheels, but the rest of the car is made up of eight fans. And it says it can fly like 110 miles. I'll show you a different video. Great. What? I saw this one. Really? So it looks like a car and flies like that, just with the fans? There's wheels there and there's the whole rest of the body and this, like the cockpit where you are turns. Yo, how do you steer that thing? I wonder if they make you go to flight school for these type of cars. You definitely should. Take a look at that. Interesting video, but this doesn't show up flying. Oh, this thing. Does that show it's flying? Well, this is like their video of it. So it's not accurate, but that's what they're saying it's going to look like. Oh, so you're going to go like sideways. Yeah, for sure. I don't know if that's flying above the boat. I wouldn't fuck with it at all. What? So I thought it was saying that the cockpit turns so the fans are behind you. Is that what happens? It's a street-legal Evito, which means vertical takeoff. Oh, look at that. It's a street-legal Evito. It's a street-legal Evito, which means vertical takeoff. Oh, look at that. There's an accident. He flies. He just skips over it and goes back. Yo. That would definitely have a lot of people running into each other, but they land on each other. Fuck you, bitch. This is my lane. But the way that that looked, this has like the blades, you know, you can't hit anything with it. They're all protected. Right. So that problem is gone. But a fender bender, the blades would slam into the fucking structure and then you'd be dead. But yeah, I don't think I want to be part of it. No, not for the first few generations of it. Let's sort that out first. You got to get the kinks out first. Do you ever fuck with electric cars? Huh? Do you ever fuck with electric cars? I mean, I got a Tesla, but nothing major. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, I still haven't let it auto-drive me, though. No, that's scary. I do it a little. Oh, you did? I go doo-doo, and I just like kind of barely hold on to the wheel, but it makes me feel weird. Never went to sleep, though, in the midst of it. No. Oh, yeah. I was just watching a guy on video, somebody captured him from the cell phone, and Stu was asleep in his Tesla in Bumper to Bumper Highway, just out cold. Yeah. And the car moves forward, stops, moves forward, and stops, and he's just snoring. All it takes is one wrong malfunction and everybody. Yeah. Yeah, that can happen. It's not all worked out yet. Don't go to sleep, bro. But you know, man, it's so crazy, you see, because I was saying I was going to find somebody tied in the Tesla. I wanted to just get the Tesla truck just because I don't know why. Oh, it looks amazing. Yeah, I think more so for the looks. Oh, it looks amazing. I saw one in real life, and I was blown away, because the pictures look good, but when you're there in real life, it's big. Oh, it is? It's big, and it's stamped steel. Like, that's not like a regular door. That's a door that can stop a 45-round. Yeah, the whole thing is stamped steel, and it raises and lowers. So he hits a button and he goes... It gets up like... I think it raises like 16 inches or something crazy like that. I might be wrong. But it has insane horsepower. It goes zero to 16 in like three and a half seconds. This giant thing made out of stamped steel. It's a car of the future. They were telling me you have to be selected to be... I mean, even though they say you can put money down on an average, you have to be... I think they're doing certain selected people that they elect get it early, because I sure was trying to get one. I think they started delivering them, because there was a truck that someone filmed on the highway that had cyber trucks in it. Yeah. And they were delivering them somewhere. I don't know if it's delivering them to the final production. I don't know if it's delivering them to the actual owners. Are people driving those things yet? I have seen and heard a lot of the stuff you're just saying, and right now it says like someone might have leaked the event. They've sent out emails, same people might be able to come get them soon. Upcoming delivery event in Austin. Doesn't say when it is. It could be next month or next year. They finished building the factory out here already? Yeah, the Gigafactory. You know, I bought... It was so crazy right before they did it. I bought 15 acres in Thraw, Texas. Not far from here. And then they just told me my price of my land, damn near, almost double, just because of the Tesla factory. That makes sense. That's a great investment. Yeah, that factory is nuts. Have you ever seen it? That's where they showed us the cyber truck. It's huge. Like the factory looks like the Death Star. Because you're pulling up to it, you're like, what did they make in here? I think it's the biggest building I've ever been in. That's crazy. They brought it right to Texas. That's a good name. Yeah. That thing's bigger than Texas. Yeah. Isn't it one of the biggest car production buildings ever or something like that? It's something crazy like that. Tesla, if you hear us right now, we want a cyber truck. We definitely want one. Yeah. We need to get that. That thing looks amazing. Second largest building by volume in the world. 10 million square feet of floor space. That means a lot of people got jobs now. Yeah. A lot of people got jobs. A lot of cars getting made. They're getting made right here. When you... See if you could Google cyber truck. Let me see what it looks like when it's driving around. Do they have a video of anybody driving it? YouTube Shorts has quite... There's a few videos. There's like an inside video someone has here. And there's one driving around LA here. When you see it in real life, man, it's sick. It really does look like something from the future. Yeah. I mean, that looks like a future car. Look at that thing. Like if you were looking at a movie from 2023 in 1984, you would think this. Yeah, they're going to have like future looking spacecraft trucks. It's one of the... When you see it in real life, it's undeniable. You see it in real life. Like I thought it was cool looking in pictures, but you see it in real life. Like this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It's amazing. And there's no reason for it. There's no reason to make a bulletproof electric vehicle with stamped steel. Like why are you doing that? But that's the cool thing about Elon. He does whatever the fuck he wants. I was just going to say it just seemed like he being able to live his childhood out at this point. He does whatever you feel. He does whatever he wants. Yeah, he does whatever he wants. It's amazing. He's got enough money and ability to get things done. You know, I mean, that dude made his rocket extra pointy to be more like Spaceballs, right? Wasn't it Spaceballs? He loves Spaceballs. He loves that movie. So he made the rocket extra pointy to be like the rocket from Spaceballs. That's what probably cost him a few million just to do that shit. He's having fun. I like him. Billionaires have fun. You know, do you use X? I mean, he and that. So most of the stuff that I put on Instagram, I just rehab it on there. Yeah. Do you fuck with TikTok or any other ones too? I'm learning it, man. So I've been more of a hands-on Instagram. So I have people that do like my TikTok. I can get on it if I want to. And I still don't even know nothing about Facebook. I have people doing that for me too. So I literally can whatever I post from Instagram, I just take it there. Because I don't know. I built my Instagram following to that's just who I'm used to. Yeah. What do you use more? I use Instagram most. Yeah. But I love X for information. I still feel weird saying X. Yeah. Twitter. Whatever. I like that for information. It's always interesting. Always interesting stuff coming up. I use threads sometimes too. At this point, I just got to keep up with the times. Yeah. That's the weird thing, right? It's like there's always going to be some new thing that you have to keep up with. And you won't know about it till it's too late. Like, what's that? What are you guys doing over there? See, the reason it worked out for us, like, so I got my... And it's so crazy. I don't really get to put albums out. Like, you know, I love my music. But every time I get ready to put an album out, a disaster hit or something happened, and my energy and everything shift to that. So the music always get lost in the shuffle. And it's the first time in a minute that nothing's really just distracting me. And my album come out in October 20th, as a matter of fact. It's called Stuck in Motion. But being able to have the TikTok to all these different platforms that you really can use to promote, because everybody don't use... You got some people that don't mess with Instagram and only use TikTok. Some people now that... I don't know how heavy people are in the threads, but some people only use X. So we found ways we just use it for our benefit. You know what I'm saying? Just use everything. Yeah, everything we can at the moment. Everything. Just keep throwing it out there. That's great. It's great you've had that time to concentrate on your album, too. That must have been very exciting. Yeah, it is, man, because, you know... So this is the kits to the smoke part, right? So, you know, everybody also have their thing, whatever. Some people may like to go work out to get out their frustration or whatever. Mine is, I can vent through my music. I didn't vent through so much. I amassed it just releasing it through my music. And the way I paint the picture, you know, you have people actually feeling exactly how I feel at that moment. Because I'm not good at sitting up here like, man, Joy had a terrible day today. This is going on. I don't feel comfortable. But if I do it through the music, it just is more relatable. I'm excited about it. Now, the funny thing I'll show you probably when we get off. I just did... I released a song called First Class, one of the first singles. Because I release the singles every two weeks leading up to it. And in first class I had... My bro, Philly Flyboy, shot it. And I had some people, White Rhino, VFX, they're from San Antonio. They edited my old school Cadillac drop. So I'm flying around on the cloud. So it's just crazy. We were just talking about that shit. But super dope, man. Oh, that is cool. Yeah. Yeah. When you released this, is that the beginning of a tour? Right now, hopefully. I mean, you know, man, believe it or not, even if we've been in the game for as long as we do, we still be nervous and don't really know what comes about. You never know what record... Like when I released the album, you never know what record people are going to take to. We don't know if we're going to take off or if you've got to build it up. But realistically, the goal is when it comes out to get ready to get on the road. You know? I love... That's one thing I love. My two main things, or three, is my kids, the music, and just helping people, man. So, you know, like, those are three things that excite me. But other than that, I like... I just venture off and just try everything. I feel like you get zero results if you don't try it, you know? Well, that's a beautiful philosophy, the way you balance it all out. That's a good thing, because, you know, a lot of us can get caught up in maybe one thing too much, you know? Just to have this idea of, like, your family, your job, everything. It's all... Everything deserves equal attention. Yeah, and you know, man, it's... With life, like, I just be so realistic with everything, man, because, you know, we all have our good days, we all have our bad days, we all mess up time to time, you know? And for me, it's just how we bounce back. And even with some of the hiccups I've had within the last year or two, you know, it's all learning experiences. But I feel like even with this album, the reason I named it Stuck in Motion was rather than me be dwelling on shit that I could have done different and shit I could have done better, or to be just held back or sad or just trying to... You know, a lot of times we complain about a bunch of shit, and I feel like I'm at a point in my life now that it's like, man, you just gotta accept stuff for what it is. So the reason I named it Stuck in Motion is, regardless of what I'm going through, I'm still moving. I'm gonna keep it moving. Whichever direction I'm aimed at, that's where I'm going. So I'm Stuck in Motion. That was the purpose of it, man. That's a good name for it. Yeah. So when you say you never know, like, how it's gonna be received, like, but it's... Is this your favorite? I think it's definitely... It's gonna be an important one in my catalog because, you know, I'm from the streets, so most of my music is always gonna be that this album is more just good vibe. I think it's more growth and more universal where you could just, for those who smoke, you can put it on and just light your blood up or you just getting your car ride. So for me, it's important because I just feel like it's an album of growth. You know, I'm just showing I'm un-boughted. I'm living life. I'm enjoying life. And, you know, a lot of people don't really understand, man. They don't take... It's not just about money to enjoy life, you know. It's what different things you had that bring peace to you. So I just think I'm at a point in life where I'm just enjoying life, you know. That's why I think it's gonna be so, so important for me. And what I'm doing to it, what I'm doing with it also is gonna make it different. I don't know if you've seen, they say you can put out... Like, I'm shooting a video for every song, but in between the songs, I wanna do short movie skits so it'll be like from a start to a finish, like a whole project where I'm making... Put it on Amazon or something like that. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I'm just trying to think of this different creative shit with this man. I like that. I like that idea. Yeah. Yeah, just tie it in together and make a movie out of it. Yeah. It's a great idea. I got a movie coming too, but this is just gonna be focused on the music, you know. From the... Because you have different people, man. For me, you have different fans from different things. Music-wise, I wanna make sure I set that one apart. But it's definitely exciting. One of my bros, he's one of the main DJs out of Houston, you know, that kinda can shift the culture. DJ Mr. Rogers, I had him executive producer, you know, just from a musical standpoint to find records that he think people would take to, you know, which at the end of the day, we chose all the records I did, so it worked out. But that... Putting all the visuals together to make it dope. And what I'm gonna do too, that's gonna be creative. So when I was talking about the movie part, I'm gonna actually get actors for different roles, you know. So it'll just be something bigger than me just going to stand on the corner and have one of my homeboys talking to me. That's a great idea. Are you gonna write it out... Like, are you gonna write it out after the music? Like, the music's done, right? Right. So are you now thinking about, like, how are you gonna put together a movie that ties in with all the songs? So right now, I guess the way that I'm really envisioning it is I just... Each part, I just create different scenarios. So at that point, you don't really make it as I have to really write it out, you know what I'm saying? Just in between each skit, what scenario it may be. It may be me and Amir having a conversation with myself, but the reflection of Amir may be a whole other actor that's, you know, good, good, bad guy. So you just create different scenarios and then I just figure out how to tie it in, but for the most part, it's just simple. I don't think it'll take too, too much. I'm just excited to be doing it. Like, I leave... It's so crazy when I was just telling you also that I have so many different people that support me in different ways. So when I leave here today, I fly to LA for the BMac Awards and they're giving me the change. They're giving me the change agent award. Speaking of awards, I'm not sure if you know, I got probably every award you could think of from anything you think of from helping, fighting, whatever the situation may be, man. And that's a blessing. Like, I'm at a point now, I'd be like, man, I don't really... You ain't gotta give me an award. I'm gonna do the work regardless, but... It's nice to be recognized. Yeah, and you don't want to kind of go against God's blessings because if he feel like, hey, I want you to be recognized for it, who am I to say, I don't need that shit? I can't do that. No, that's beautiful. You said you were doing another movie? So the movie is done. It's called Soul. And it's a crazy story. My guy Philly Flyboy and Richie Rich out of Houston, they were just getting people to send in scripts and they found one that they like. It's about a shoe store, but my father went to jail. He was a hustler. I ended up coming across some money and I got a shoe store, but when my father went to jail, he had $2 million that was unaccounted for, shall we say. And so the whole movie, everybody... It's a comedy, but everybody trying to get at me and get to me and haunt me to try and figure out where the money is, but it's just... It's more of some funny stuff, man. Like I said, I'm at a point now, I'm just trying different stuff. So that's gonna be dope. And it actually come out any day on TV. I don't really understand the process of it because I thought they'd give me a time and a date where I could promote it, but they just like... You never know when it'll pop up. When it'll pop up, you just get to promoting it. But doing that, the reason... What I was getting to, what I was gonna tell you, I'm at a point of having fun. So what I also did, one of the videos on Stuck in Motion, a song called Reconcitor, I went and got the original Ninja Turtles. I got Batman, Deadpool, Lightning McQueen. So in that video, I'm an actual superhero in that video. So I'm just trying different stuff, just having fun and just living life at this point, man. That's beautiful. Just being creative, having a good time. Definitely, man. But yeah, the music, that's my go-to. Either that or just getting out of the house. I don't know why I'd be overexcited when I help people, man. Just to see the fact that they're not by theirself and the fact that they're knowing somebody actually care, that kind of gave me my excitement too. That's beautiful. That's excitement we all should be seeking, right? You know? Helping people. It's nice. Feels good. Definitely does, man. And you dedicate a lot of time to it. And you should be rewarded for that. It's beautiful. But you know, you never really do it for the reward side. Of course. Your rewards are spiritual, emotional, what you get from people. And you know, different blessings come. When I tell you, I didn't just my career alone, I done been through a lot of shit and I done had decades of bumping my head and then you may have the whole world turn against you, then you have to just keep pushing. I deal with so much different stuff, but that's one thing I don't stop doing. And every time I bless and get bigger and bigger, which I honestly think God put me through some of these processes because I feel like for me to go to the next level, he have to see if I'm really ready. So even now, like one of my biggest things that's hard for me now is to imagine just not reacting to people. Because I want to people, you definitely can get under my skin. Like imagine you at a UFC and somebody just, you walk by somebody like, oh, fuck you, Joe. Like, think about that. You can do one or two things. You can ignore it or you can be like, man, hold on, you got me fucked up. So dealing with Pais is getting through. That's all part of growth for what he got planned for me in the future, man. And that's definitely a process of dealing. Yeah, that's part of the thing that comes with fame, right? It's going to be certain bunch of people to get mad at you. For whatever reason, whether it's valid or not. Yeah. And I think, man, that the hard part is dealing with it because you have to deal with it. But the reality of it is, man, sometimes you got to get to a point. They don't think what they want to think regardless. Yes. And you got to just you got to just keep it moving. You know, even if you know they direct opinion or they direct thought may not necessarily be true or it could be partially true. It may not even be it could be five percent true. But at the end of the day, it's like you can't really waste your time just over explain it because it's still going to be somebody out there that don't want to hear. You're going to be interacting with too many people. That's the problem. You can't be considering all the opinions of all these different people at a certain point in time. You got to let that go. And if people are critical or they're shitty or mean to you, what I mean, that you have no time. See, that's the growth part because it is not going to learn that right. That shit is not easy. It's not easy to not read the comments. But for your mental health, you really should because, you know, and also like there's a lot of accounts online that aren't real people. There's a lot. There's a lot, man. I that's one of the things that I do do on X. I'll go in and a controversial subject like, you know, whatever it is, climate change or whatever the fuck it is. And I'll just go reading into the comments and see, you know, how people and you'll find these outrageous comments and you're like, what is this? And you click on it's just a bunch of letters and a few numbers for the name. And then you click on it and you're like, oh, this is a fake account. This is a count that just retweets things and says outrageous shit and just provokes people fighting with each other. Like how many of those are out there, man? A lot. Definitely. You ever see it be to the point now, but I take the time to block all the people that be like, I gained this fortune from here or you know, like some of that shit be like, man, it's too much. Like it'd be damn near 30 of them comments about how to get some money. And they'd be like, no. My favorite of the ones that are pretending to be girls looking for a boyfriend. I get them a lot too. Because it's like, who's followed for that? I need a boyfriend. And you click on it. You're like, what? You need a boyfriend? I need a girlfriend. You got to then they have two followers on them. Maybe not even that. Exactly. Exactly. I don't know who the fuck take time to create that shit every day. I don't know what the scam is. What's the scam, Jamie, on those? Like, if you got a like, I'm looking for a boyfriend or I'm looking for something hot and hard or those I don't know. How the fuck do they even find all pages? Well, I think when you get a page that has a lot of people on it, they just glom onto it and they every time you post, they post immediately. They probably have some sort of a computer program. Right? Does that make sense? It has to be like that, right? Because they post so much. I'll get like the first second. There'll be 30 of them. They ramped up the minute that they made it available to use the computer to like comment and stuff. That's hilarious. But they were around before, dude. I used to get them. They ramped up though. Oh, they ramped up. Yeah, it's a crazy thing, man. They just. I don't know what they're doing. How are they making money? I'm reading through an article right now to see if they got anywhere. Someone investigated this. So when you click on those things, I've never clicked on one. What does it take you to? Like, if you click on theirs, it's like a OnlyFans page or what is it? I'm reading. So like this is at first, these bots would try to lure people that says, you know, like we're going to ignore the fact that I've got a huge booty or don't look at my story if you want to M A S T U R B A T E. I'm not supposed to be a cousin, though. No, no, that's how they wrote it. That's how they wrote it. Oh, you're hilarious. I've been swearing the entire time. That's hilarious. But when he read it, spelling it out like a teacher. How are they making money? He says that whether it be porn or pyramid schemes, these accounts are not trying to sell or trying to sell this. I don't know. It could just be like the way that, well, you know, porn ads would just get you caught in a weird click farm. You're just caught in a click hole of all these ads popping up. It could just be baiting you for falling into those. Just for clicks. Yeah. Oh, man. I don't think that they're actually trying to get you to buy something, you know. Internet scams. Speaking of that, have you ever I've yet to figure out how when you randomly thinking about something on Instagram or say something, all the fuck ads just start popping up for that shit. Yeah. People want to deny that's real. I definitely know it's real. That seems very real. But it's either one day the listening to what we're doing. But sometimes what if you're just thinking that you just start seeing the shit. So it's still weird. I've never said I've never had that happen. Yeah. No, I never been thinking about it. And then it just pops up. I literally can be. You've had a joke. Yeah. I literally be thinking about it. Maybe close anything. And then it just randomly just I don't understand. I see. You've had that, Jamie. Really? Unwiring thing. You had pride. You should test it this week. Somehow. Don't use your phone to look. Think of start. Think of a random product. Maybe talk to someone about it. I mean, you can't just think about something random. It's gonna show. I don't mean it that drastically. But I think it's gonna be a little bit more of a problem. But never don't Google search anything. Try to think of something super random and you'll start getting ads for it. Is this evidence of the matrix? What is this? I don't know. If you start thinking about it and then you get it on your phone. That shit is. And then you know, so I have to actually. I have to think back to think that I even say something to somebody. I did. I click on something. Right. But honestly, it just would have been a thought in my brain. And then it should just. It don't be one ad. It'd be multiple ads popping up. And sometimes it makes me fall in the mind. Shit. I agree with that. I just think that those thoughts. It knows what you've been listening to and watching and that you're eventually going to think of this. I kind of think that's what it is. It's just like deduction. Man, Internet is dangerous. Fuck. That's crazy. It plays us. I buy more shit on Amazon that I probably wouldn't buy. Just because you can. Just click. Click. Click. I haven't bought toothpaste in a store in forever. Just click. One click. It's on its way. Yay. I don't have to think. Yeah. Internet is definitely something different. Yeah. Just wait until you just 3D print things in your house. That's gonna happen too. What you mean? People are gonna have like supplies of materials. They'll have like silicone and metals and all these different things. And they're gonna be able to 3D print things. Because right now they can 3D print a lot of shit. They can make all sorts of pla- They can make guns. They can 3D print guns. They can 3D print a lot of stuff. They can 3D print houses. They 3D print like sections of houses. And then they stack them all together and build a house with it. And if you had a 3D printer in your home and you had all these materials, like for at least some things, I would imagine you'd be able to 3D print objects in your house now. Instead of buying them, you just like buy the plans. Or buy like a license to print it. With that, that prints, it may cost all of them a leg. Initially it probably will. Yeah. It probably always will. It's pretty complicated. But the idea of like going somewhere and getting a thing, it's probably gonna be less and less. It's probably gonna be making the thing in your house when these things get more sophisticated. That's just a guess though. Is that possible? Does that make sense? Yeah, but I still have wondered to what extent. Because most of the stuff I see people with 3D printing, it's mostly junk. It's just like trinkets and plastic and things that you don't need. Could you make a knife? Could you make an awesome knife that a blacksmith couldn't make that way? I don't think you could. You can make car parts though. I know they 3D print car parts. Like metal, like renewal. I don't know what they can 3D print. Can they 3D print metal? Yeah, I mean I'm looking like there's a copper at least. I don't know how, like once you 3D print something, there's still a process you have to do to make it look good and pretty usable. You have to dunk it in some sort of water solution. I don't know what you do with the metal. You know that's what Bob Lazar thinks that spaceship that he worked on was made with. He thinks it was somehow 3D printed because it has no seams. You paying attention to this UFO shit? No? Good for you. No, but I know you do so I'm going to ask because it's like the shit, there's so much shit that's just coming out now. I don't understand what's the motive behind it just randomly coming out now. So what's the place? Area 51? Like I'm assuming that shit has been real? That's real. But Area 51 was used for all sorts of training purposes. They had all sorts of programs that were running out there. I think that's where they developed the B-52. Is that where they developed it? They developed a bunch of different military technologies out there. So that was true about the... We don't know. We don't know. I was just guessing about whether or not they're working on UFOs. But they were definitely working on other stuff too. It's a legitimate military base. So you think these videos are real? That's coming out? Or you think it's... I think the videos are real. What they're filming, I don't know what that is. It could be that it's some super sophisticated US controlled drone that was built in some sort of program that's top secret. And it has some new super sophisticated propulsion system that they don't want us to know about. And so they pretend it's coming from another world. And they say, oh, these are off world crafts exhibiting behavior that's impossible to replicate in America. I wonder. I wonder. Because if they're talking about it like that, they're literally saying off world, like, sure. Boy, I get suspicious. I get suspicious. Because they're not super honest about anything. Why would they be honest about spaceships? Then it just randomly happens now. Yeah, it's well, it's another nice distraction gets people excited. The fucking fake little Mexican UFO baby. They're doubling down. No, they're not. They took it. This is from the MRI yesterday. So they said it's one skeleton. What did they find at it? They're trying to other like American scientists are saying, well, a lot of people test samples of it or something. Well, do they have images from the MRI? I mean, I don't know that they showed those actual images, but the doctor that took it, yes, they were here. They belong to single skeleton that has not been joined to other pieces. Interesting. Photos from the team carrying out the test shows one of the body's bearing in elongated head, a small upturned nose and two slanted eyes. The subjects look tiny when held up by the doctors examining the watching for the watching journalists. This person says that I think it's the doctor has claimed that he talks to the version of Guadalupe and the extraterrestrials will not talk to her like to talk to him because she doesn't believe in them. Maybe just drugs. Maybe it's telling the truth. Maybe he did talk to the version of Guadalupe. So that's what it's supposed to be. I want to see what those images look like. They don't have them. You ever notice that none of the images be clear on shit like that you really want to see? Yeah, it's a real problem. I talked to this one guy, Christopher Mellon. He used to be an intelligence agent and he said that they do have clear footage. It just hasn't been leaked, but that he's aware of it. And some of it is pretty mind blowing. He said, show me. Until I see it, I don't know, man. I feel like a dummy because I want to believe in it so bad. That's the problem. Because it's so fun. You know, the idea of spaceships coming here for another galaxy. That's amazing. I don't know how fun, especially if they ain't friendly. Well, if they weren't friendly, we'd already be fucked. Right? I mean, if they've been coming here forever, supposedly, and they haven't hurt us yet, we're probably okay. You know, I think they're probably observing us. They're probably, if they are coming from another world, they're probably making sure we don't blow ourselves up. They're probably realizing that we're at this convergence of the evolution of the biology and then science and technology and its abilities that far surpass, like the speed that the biology evolves. Like the biology evolves very slowly, relatively, compared to these computers. The things that they're able to do, the spaceships and the flying cars. We have so much ability now, and we're still the same kind of creature. We're still humans. But now we have this insane ability to blow up a whole country. We have nuclear bombs. We're all pointing them at each other, and there's enough to wipe out the whole world. If I was an alien, I'd be like, let's keep an eye on these crazy fucks. These people are wild. Let's keep an eye on them. Yeah, man. Definitely. I'm gonna keep my distance from that. I don't want to fly them all. I don't want none of that shit. I just, man, live my life. Yeah, it's gonna be a long time before people get comfortable moving to Mars. I don't know how long that's gonna be, but that's a fucking commitment. Didn't they have somebody recently go? Are they letting people go now? No, they haven't let people go yet. They've sent drones. So they have the Mars rover that goes around on Mars, but that's just a robot. But the idea is to have people on Mars. I think... Didn't Elon say by like 2035 or something like that, he wants man trip to Mars? That's crazy. You keep saying his name. He's the only... He's doing whatever the fuck he wanted to do at this point. He's a wild fella. It's a crazy thing to do. Definitely. Might wake up some shit we don't need to wake up. Elon Musk speaks. X COO said, man, mission will reach Mars by 2030. NASA says otherwise. It's probably somewhere in the middle because like most of these things take longer than you think they're gonna take. Like even its cars. They thought that Cybertruck was already gonna be out and then there was that roadster. Like, where's that fucking thing? Those things take a long ass time to develop. If you gotta get all the kinks out, you gotta make sure... Because he's gonna be responsible for people going over there. If they can't actually be there or live there, he's gonna be responsible for a bunch of people. You gotta like a whole city in Mars and the air breaks. I don't like that he said you can only go twice a year. The trip can only happen on like two days out of the year or two weeks. You have to wait six months if you miss the window. So what if the window like a storm rolls through? Six months. Oh my god. Oh my god. See? Bro. Bunch of money gonna be wasted. Not just money, it's just scary. The idea of being in a six month journey to another planet, that's how long it takes to get there. Oh that's how long it takes to get there? I thought you were saying he only go up? Yeah, there's a window of six months but that's how long it takes. Doesn't it take six months to get there? Oh fuck man, I for sure would know. It took the Apollo mission two, I think two weeks to get to moon. It could even be seven months. Seven months in a spaceship. Traveling at 24,600 miles an hour. Yeah. What does that feel like? You probably don't even notice it. You probably look out the window and you don't see shit. Like are we there yet? I'm just saying the food, everything would be horrible. Horrible. Fuck no, I can't. Yeah, there's gonna be no barbecue. If you're flying, how many thousands of miles an hour? Almost 25,000. Almost 25,000 miles an hour. Yeah, I can't. What does that feel like? Very uncomfortable. And knowing you can't turn around. You can't like take a month in and go, you know what guys, I'm gonna pull over at this rest stop and I can't do this anymore. Yeah, but not only that, everybody revolves around phones and the internet. No, it ain't gonna be that shit up there. Yeah, you will have no idea what's going on on earth. They must have some communication, right? I'd imagine the Starlink is gonna go with it, but what if it doesn't work? I have a test, you know, have they been able to go test it? Test the speeds. Imagine being the first dude to try to touch down on Mars. Oh my God. That's a... but there's gonna be people that do it. Just like there's people that go to Everest, people that want to climb K2. There's gonna be people that do it no matter what it is. That just won't be one of them, bro. I definitely won't be one of the first. I'm definitely not gonna do that six month thing. Fuck that. You only live 100 years. You gotta take a half of a year to go to the other planet that sucks. Is the people going to the moon already? Well, the Apollo astronauts... This thing says they're going back, that article about NASA said they have a plan to go back to the moon 2025. The south pole of the moon. That'd be interesting. I wonder if it looks better than the original footage. These days they better have good cameras. They got everything else. That's gonna be interesting if they pull that off. That will crush the moon hoax to the nires. But I don't know. You say the hoax? Yeah, the people that think that we never went to the moon. That's a fun one. That's a fun one. Yeah, but there's people that believe it was a hoax. And if you go down that rabbit hole online... YouTube. I hate YouTube holes, man. I've been in that shit for hours and people got the original shit I was looking up. Yeah. YouTube holes. Especially with something like that. They'll take you down the dark, dark road. And you start thinking, I don't think we went to the moon. They definitely will. They gotta wear brainwashing. Well, there's so many conspiracy theories you can get into. If you just don't care and you just want to go on a rabbit hole, there's so many rabbit holes to go down. Rockefeller is the... There's so many rabbit holes that you can go down. Engineering of America, like, oh, Jesus. You don't want to think about it. And they take their time to put them... They make it believable what they're saying. Yeah, it's hard to know. So, when you... You've been watching the UFC for a long time. Do you train at all? Do you do any jiu-jitsu? Man, believe it or not, I did... It was a long time ago. They were going to do where you switch from a rapper to a UFC fighter. And I never forget I did the training. I was in Albuquerque, New Mexico. At Jackson-Winkle? I don't know the exact place. Who was the... Damn, is that where Sanchez used to train? I forgot... Yeah, so wherever that gym was... Yeah, Greg Jackson's. Jackson-Winkle, John. Train the whole day and by the end I was throwing up in the middle of the ring. And when I did, they told me, okay, now you officially had a good workout. And I was like, fuck this. I know. But then... So, that's when I was learning about the leg part, right? They had these bamboo sticks, kind of. It's like some kind of sticks. And they would just tap my shin and they were like, this is what you do to start hard. And I was like, yeah, I'm good on all that, man. And all the other time is with Derek. I'd go mess around and play with him at the gym. But that's it, man. That's a lot of work. I'm not down with throwing up every time I workout. But you look like fit and strong, so you must be doing some kind of workout. I work out here and there, which I feel I've been slagging lately because I've been so focused on just filming and getting ready for this album, man. But yeah, definitely. I like to work out. I don't like to do the... I've always said I wanted to learn the submission side of stuff because, man, you know, you can watch some people that you get ready to fight. And they'll just drop to the ground and they hope that they can get you there. And the weather may be to break some, the weather may be to put you to sleep. So I've always been curious to figure that out, definitely. But that's it. That workout is a little intense, man. Yeah, but it'll start off like if you go to a beginner's class, it'll be fun. How long have you been doing it? I started doing it in 90... seriously in 98. Yeah, I took a couple of classes before that, but not much. And then in 90, you know, I did like a little bit of Carlson Gracie's. But then in 98, I joined John Giacchimaccio's and that's when I really started training. I never really did it to fight just to train. Just to train. I was already 30. It's like, I don't need to be getting my ass kicked. I'm busy doing other shit. When you see the sacrifice that fighters put in and what it does to their body and, you know, the amount of attention that they have to put to their craft, you don't dabble in that. I don't want to dabble in that. What they're doing... what they did... what you're doing with a professional fighter, you're taking one of the riskiest paths in all of life. You're going to gamble your body and the function of your body to make your living. And the function of your body while you're going against other trained killers. And you're throwing bones at each other, slamming shins and elbows into heads and strangling people and taking arm bars. So probably what would be the average... now the average age anywhere from what 25 to 35 maybe? For pro fighters? Well you got Rahul Rosas Jr. who is like 18 years old. He's the youngest guy. He's really good. He's got a massive potential. You're getting a lot of pretty good guys in their early 20s now, which is interesting because in the early days, it took guys a while to put all the pieces together. They maybe started as a wrestler and then they learned how to strike or they started a striker and they learned how to wrestle. You're seeing these kids coming up that are 20 years old that are proficient in everything. Submissions, kickboxing, they put it all together beautifully. They're trained in MMA from a very young age. Instead of adapting a previous skill set like boxing or wrestling to MMA, they're learning the whole thing from the jump. And I think those guys have a giant advantage. And they're also like every generation... see there's always going to be the greats, right? You're always going to have your Mike Tyson's, your Michael Jordan's, you're always going to have your greats. But every generation seems to develop more and more high level athletes in every sport. And in MMA, that's no different. It's maybe even more prevalent in MMA. It's exploding now. So you're seeing Dana White's Tuesday Night Contender series. You'll see guys on that show that are just straight up killers. And you're like, this guy is an absolute UFC caliber fighter and they're fighting to get a shot on the show. So these guys that are coming up are already really good. Really good. So yeah, I watched... one thing I came to understand, man, like I would watch... Like even now I still... I go support all fights. Like I go do the Fury fighting in Houston and other things. But you watch some fighters go from there to the UFC. And I don't think people really understand how qualified the... It's a different type of monster. You know, it's just as if somebody coming from college that jump into the pros. They really good at what they do. And that shit counts. Yeah, it counts. At the top of the heap, there's guys in the UFC that aren't like any organization ever at the top of the heap. But there's some other organizations right now like Bellator has some really good fighters. And 1FC has some really good fighters. There's guys that are like commensurate that they could probably get to the UFC. But when they come, it's still hard for them though. It's hard for everybody in the UFC. I mean, look at... we were talking about Dustin Poirier and Justin Gaetschy. Those guys are the top cream of the crop. And when they go at it like that, you know, one guy could get cracked and that's what we saw. And that's how good they are. I mean, at that level, that's really, you know, one guy can win, one guy can lose. It's like they're that good. Like almost anything can happen. That's why that next fight between Aloe Vera and Isla Makkaczuk is very interesting. Because Isla got him in the first fight and submitted him. And Aloe Vera is like hell bent on getting that title back. He's good. You can't take nothing from him. Aloe Vera is a beast. He's a beast. And I think watching him struggle with Volkanovski, you know, he won that decision. But it was a very close fight where a lot of people thought he was going to roll him over and smash him because he was so much bigger. He probably gave a lot of people some ideas that, oh, he's vulnerable. He's not completely invincible like he's looked in all of his fights. He's human. So maybe Aloe Vera will have more confidence coming into this fight. Who knows? But it's an exciting fight. Islam's a beast. Yeah, definitely. I mean, look at the camp he came from. Yeah, that's a crazy camp. And they're so filled with elite high level grappling. Those guys are just killers on the ground. And a bunch of them are like great at stand up, too. A bunch of them are like killer strikers, too. Yeah, definitely, man. You know, I was excited for John Jones to come back to. It's one of my brothers, man. He's definitely his legacy is already marked. Oh, yeah. I mean, he became the heavyweight champion. Light heavyweight, the heavyweight. And if he defends it. My hope, this is my hope. Francis Ngano has his big payday fights Tyson Fury. Right. And then the UFC coaxes him back to fight John Jones. That's my hope. I don't know if it's really I mean, they both my homies was John. Definitely. John wanted that one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the former. I thought he's not with UFC anymore. Well, he's not with UFC right now because he's going to fight Tyson Fury. But I don't know if he signed a contract with someone else. I don't know what happened. I don't know what the deal is. Or maybe they could give him a one fight exemption away from that contract to fight John Jones and the UFC. But they probably wouldn't do that. But that's what that's the fight you want to see, though. You want to see the guy who was the heavyweight champion who relinquished the crown come back and fight the guy who won it in his absence. That's the perfect fight to see what and it's also it's the perfect fight skillfully, too, because you see like as a skillful John is and as dangerous as Francis is. Francis is definitely super dangerous with his hands with everything. People have to understand John has hands with John has a little bit of everything to man. John's got everything. But Francis is as big a heavyweight as there is and as scary a striker in the heavyweight division as there is. I would be very curious to see how that fight goes down. I think it would be very interesting. And I really wish they could pull that off because I think that's a legacy fight. And if John retires after that and if he wins, oh my God, he goes down as the all time great. Yeah, got to. I don't know why people always give him his his files as the all time great because he he definitely is that. I mean, you know, I think kind of everybody does now after he won the heavyweight title. If you look at his accomplishments, you know, never really lost. Really lost that one fight by disqualification. That's it. Every other fight he's won. And he's fought against the highest level competition from the time he was 21 years old, 22 years old. It's incredible. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to deny. And, you know, he beat really good guys. He beat guys that, you know, that were in their prime. John was something special and still is that that would be the big fight. But I'm interested to see him fight Steve Bay to Steve Bay has been out for a long time. And he's coming back to try to reclaim reclaim the title. That's interesting, too. Not to discredit him, but I must say here. If you're going, John ain't no easy. No, it's not easy. Well, I think for sure it'll be a John be the favorite in that fight, the betting favorite. But, you know, Steve Bay is the most decorated heavyweight of all time. He defended the title more than anybody. He beat so many good people. Former champions. Junior dos Santos. Fabrizio Verdun. He knocked him out to win the title. He's a monster. He's really good. And, you know, he's had time to relax and recover. You know, after that Francis knockout, you want someone to like really recover from something like that. That was a rough one. Yeah. No. See how this goes, buddy. See how it goes. It's exciting, though, right? Definitely, man. Definitely. I'm the so. I say the power of France is even against Tyson. Definitely. Fear is definitely going. That's going to count. But I just don't know how it's going to be with them because I when you always watch these two worlds collide, it just is a little different. So well, Tyson Fury is one of the greatest boxers of all time. You got to give him his credit. He's amazing. And Francis can punch really hard and he can box. But Kenny box with Tyson Fury. Right. That's what I say. It's always just I don't know. Some about it. Just different. Well, it's going to be interesting. I'm interested to see how it plays out. I'm definitely curious to see like what approach Francis takes. What approach Tyson Fury takes. How they handle it. I'm interested. Well, I think the other thing that's going to be a factor is if Francis Chen is strong enough, that's going to be the thing because I'm pretty he can he can box period. But you got to be able to take it. Yeah. Well, Fury can crack you with punches. You don't see coming to like he's sneaky with uppercuts and and hooks. And he's very clever. He's so good with his feet. His footwork is so good. He's so long. Yeah. And he doesn't have to hit you with the haymakers right off the bat. You just start popping with the jab. Popping you move and sticking you. It's going to be very interesting. I'm curious to see with Mike Tyson is training Francis. Yeah. That's interesting too. Always love to see. Shout out Tyson. That's my brother, man. Always love to see him work. He's still even if you watch him. Well, it's just him training. He's still exciting just to watch him. He's awesome. Yeah. And his style of like just charging forward and switching stances and ripping to the body and ripping the head. If he can get Francis involved in that style, it'd be very interesting to see like what Francis like you watch him training together. It's pretty exciting. Is he quick? Is he in that standpoint? Is he quick like how Tyson is? It's hard to say. He's not as quick as Tyson. Tyson was a lot smaller. We gotta realize when Tyson was in his prime. He was like two twenty. But he was so fast. Just bobbing and weaving and moving in. Oh my god. And fast. Hard and fast. It wasn't just hard. It was hard and you couldn't get away from it. You know, you couldn't block it. He would just come flying in at people. And Francis is not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as Tyson. He's not as fast as that. But he's a lot bigger. Francis is a natural 265. He used to have to lose weight to make the 265 pound heavyweight weight class. So they got a cap on? Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's 265. Anything over that you just. Yeah. It's a super heavyweight. And super heavyweight division has never really been established. How do we got this? Nobody. Nobody. We don't have a super heavyweight division in the UFC. But it does exist. That's why there's a. So it can be. It can be done. But that's why there's a 265 pound weight limit, which is kind of seems kind of silly. I'm curious to see what a super heavyweight will look like. There's probably not that many of them because there's a small amount of heavyweights. If you think about the size of the UFC roster and the heavyweight division, it's so much smaller than the middleweight or the welter weight or the lightweight. Heavyweight's a very small division because there's not that many really skilled big man at the top of the heap. It's hard, man. And I think a lot of the elite athletes that are that big, they go into NFL, go into NBA, go in somewhere else and make money. Yeah. I'll get you. You know, you gotta want to do that. Like MMA can't be like, maybe I'll try that. It's gotta be like, you know, if you're gonna compete with those guys, you gotta, it's gotta be something you want to do. And then then you gotta find a competition. See, there was only two of y'all in that league at this point. You know what I'm saying? What do you think about Charlo and Canelo? That's exciting, isn't it? Man, definitely. Charlo from the town said, you know, one thing about Houston, we always gonna support Houston. I think it's definitely, this is definitely gonna be a big, big look for him, man. Canelo definitely, he's still, if he's not still sitting in this prime, he's just on the outskirts of leaving it. So, but he can't think that Charlo's on his heart. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he got to know that. So, it's definitely gonna be interesting, you know. Just of course, you know, we're gonna root for our town regardless, man. But definitely, it's gonna be a big fight. It's such a wild move for Charlo too, to jump up two-way classes. I didn't know he was doing two-way classes. Yeah. Wasn't he junior middleweight? And this is at 168? Isn't that correct? But that's only like, how many pounds? Maybe. 12. Okay. Super middleweight, that's what this fight is, right? And what is he, the champion at? Isn't he the champion at junior middleweight? I believe so. But you gotta remember, Canelo started out that light too, you know. And went all the way up to win the light heavyweight. Yeah, it says, the Iron Man is stepping up two-way divisions to have his chance at adding the super middleweight crown to his undisputed super welterweight champion. Yeah. And the fight, the middleweight, same thing. Depending on which organizing body. Yeah, the fight has been exciting. Definitely, man. Yeah. Do you follow all boxing? For the most part, I mean, you know, the crazy thing, man, I'd be so overwhelmed with life. I'd be able to get to watch TV. But in the process, I'll be trying to catch a lot. But who you who you man, so Terrence the homie, you know, Aeros, like my brother too. And me and me and Terrence, I just seen Terrence probably like two, three days ago. And man, that was a, that was, yeah, that was, that was a fight. Virtuoso. Yeah. Virtuoso performance. That was, the thing is, you can't, you can't discredit Crawford at all. No. I don't think people really gave him his credit. But, you know, for me, like I told him just from just a homeboy standpoint, as far as him and Earl, I just appreciate how he handled it, you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, that was, that was solid the way he handled it, you know, and it's just because he could have went about it a different way, you know, and then you got to realize, man, the Internet fans can make stuff way more cruel, you know, saying that then the fact that he, they got action to run it back, you know, you know, I think in any situation, everybody learned from, you know, what mistakes everybody learned from what moves you made to start trying to sharpen it up for the next one. But he'll be interested in see if Earl can make an adjustment. Very interesting. But man, Terrence is good. Yeah, he definitely has that magical ability to switch hands. His switching of stances is something that is hilarious because when I had him on the podcast, he was telling me his coaches tell him stop fucking around, stop fucking around, switch hands. And he's like, Oh, man, I'm gonna figure this out. And he figured it out. And now he's the best switch hitter since Marvin Hagler. No, I mean, he's amazing at it. The way he's able to fucking just cut angles and throw just as hard from the left as he does from the right with equal proficiency. And he knows where to be at all times. He knows where you're going to be at all times. Like, man, when you watch a guy that's that good at anything, but especially that good at something so dangerous as boxing, you really appreciate how hard he is. How hard it must be to get there. Yeah, even looking at the wind, he got a nice amount of a nice amount of wind as far as, you know, as far as with his undefeated record, man. Yeah, but this that one was the Earl Spence one was the big one. That was the big one, because that was the test. Like, is he as good as everybody thinks he is. And he's even better. He's even better. He's in my book. He's an all time great. Like, I would have loved to see him versus Sugar Ray Leonard. You know what I'm talking about? Like, in their prime. In the primes, which is one of the most amazing things about boxing. You get to think like that, you know, compare guys like Roberto Duran and his prime, you know, he was a monster to. Yeah, they even think back all the heavyweights from back then was most. Oh, yeah. That was probably back then. Heavyweight probably was the ideal boxing size, you know. But now, of course, you know, you got so many different divisions. Yeah. But you got to think of just all of them from back then. Oh, yeah. I watch old heavyweight fights sometimes. The other day I watched Ernie Shavers versus George Foreman. You ever see that? Oh, my God. And they big as hell. They're so big. And they're both two of the biggest punchers that have ever fought in the heavyweight division. And those dudes just walloped on each other. It was a crazy fight. One thing I'd say about the heavyweights from back then, they definitely, it definitely did some damage. Let me see some of that, Jamie. That's the one to say. Yeah, like it definitely does a real permanent damage to like they was really I was just man. If you look at some of the hits that Tyson put on people, I don't you can't even imagine how they made it through it. Yeah, they're probably never the same again. Some of those knockouts. Yeah, some of them. Like the Marvis Frazier one. That was a bad one. Do you find the Ernie Shavers in George Foreman? I'm only seeing videos that are video games. Oh, really? It says they never fought. What? Who did George Foreman's last fight before he came back? It wasn't no, it wasn't Ernie Shavers was it Ken? Here's his last opponents. You got to go way back, way back to when he retired and came back. So before Dwight Muhammad kawee because I know that was a heavyweight so keep going down. All right, so when Joe Frazier, Scott Laddoo keep going up. Jimmy Young lost to Jimmy Young. What year is that? 77 keep going. Yeah. Alright, so who was the last one that he fought after he fought Oh, Ron Lyle. That's what it was. He fought Ron Lyle. That's what it was. That was another guy that could fucking crack. That was a crazy fight. That's right. How you been in tune? I haven't really got the follow up on him, but Ali's family tree. How they been doing? His family tree? Yeah, as far as the nephews or the grandson that's boxing. Oh, that's right. Yeah, he's doing well. I think he's undefeated, right? And his big fellas George had such a unique style to oh Yeah, this is it. Shit. Damn. This is a crazy fight man. Caesar's Palace outside Las Vegas. Who won that fight? I believe George won. I think he knocked him out in I think it was like the seventh. But it was a war man. He got dropped. He got rocked. Just stopped the fight. Bro, they didn't stop fights for nothing back then. Look at that. There it is. And they're gonna count. They're gonna count bro. They're gonna give him a count. Referee just waddled over. Isn't it crazy? They were they were to let him get up. That's crazy. That's a crazy fight. The Muslim big dudes though. That was his first fight I think after he lost to Ali. Ali was something special. Ali was something special. Yeah, and not just special. And big. I didn't realize I'll be a good one. Yeah, not just special because of abilities but when the Vietnam War came out and said I'm not gonna fight. For what? What am I doing? Why you want me fighting these Vietcong people? I don't know them. And everybody just I mean they stripped him of his title and his prime. He was at the very peak of his abilities. One of my favorite fights is right before they stripped him. He fought Cleveland Big Cat Williams. And Cleveland was like this big muscular power puncher. And Ali just boxed this beautiful dance and just paced him up. And he was here to find that. It's one of my all-time favorite boxing performances. Because it's where you get to see Ali. Before they stripped him of his title and then he came back. He was kind of a different fighter when he came back. But before they stripped him he would he would box like a middleweight. But he was you know a heavyweight a big tall dude. His weed game was amazing. Against two sorry. Cleveland Big Cat Williams. So they robbed us of the real Ali. Because during those three years where they stripped him of his title and he couldn't box. That was the years where he was still at its best. And he really didn't train during those years. So when he came back he just wasn't the same guy. He was not the same. He didn't move like he moved when he was younger. You know. But and this is like him in his fucking prime. Just scoot your head a little. See some of this action. And Cleveland's a jack dude. I mean look at the muscles on Cleveland. And he's moving forward and Ali's just boxing him up. I mean what fucking heavyweight moved like this before him? Like look at his footwork. I mean imagine fighting a guy like that. They didn't exist before him. In the heavyweight division. I mean look at him move. Still to this day if you saw this guy and he was on HBO today. You'd be like whoa who is this new dude? Like oh my god what kind of movement? And you gotta think you know we're talking about the 1960s. I think this was 67. And there had been nothing like that before. What year was it Jamie? Does it say? Doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure it's 67. Now go a little further ahead so when he starts getting him. I mean Cleveland just has to try to chase him down. And every time Ali would just stop and pop the jab. Look at that one two. One two moving away. I mean moving away. They're going around. Taking a mandatory race time. I mean the fucking hand speed, the combinations. The volume look at that. He just stands over him with his hands raised. Amazing fight. I mean come on. Come on. They picked him up. They picked him up and put him back on the stool. Like you're gonna get back out there kid and you're gonna kill him. So he came back off the stool and boxed some more. They could have easily stopped that fight right? They just didn't stop fights the same way back then. Today they would look at this and go that's enough. That's enough. But back then they're like one two three. And they like go to the corner and he starts back again. Four five. I mean this poor dude needs to be saved. He's still giving up time right? There's no rules about recovery time. Oh there are no rules bro. You fight next weekend. They didn't they didn't care about people. They just you know they wanted you to fight so they can make money. Look at that right hand. Oh my goodness. I mean just playing with him. Look at that jab. I mean he was just a complete unique fighter. He moved like Sugar Ray Robinson but he was a heavyweight. The referee finally saves him. Finally he could have stopped that fight a long long fucking time ago. They were different back then. The way they stopped fights. I think in any sports there was a lot more rougher back then. Yeah football certainly was. Yeah basketball. Yeah everything. Everything was. Yeah different times man. Very different. Yeah it's probably better today. It's probably better today for people looking out for you more. Yeah different times man. Especially when it comes to fighters. You know someone's got to look out for them. You got to you know they don't want to stop and sometimes you got to save them from themselves. This video went around or this guy had to play an NBA with a broken neck. What. He said if you could walk you can play. Yeah. Oh my god. That's right. 1980. That's the year I was born. He played multiple NBA games in a neck brace after he broke his neck. I'm not exactly sure how it happened. I don't know if it was in game but there's a few. Yeah that's wild. There's stuff in the 80s like this. That's wild. Yeah. There was a lot. I know for a fact there was a lot rougher back then. Humans were tougher. They dealt more adversity. It's like the world wasn't as easy. It's crazy because it was just different right because back then when you have people 30 and 40 that was really. Really old. Old. Yeah. 30 and 49. It's like I'm 43 you know what I'm saying. So it's just it's normal now. Yeah. That shit was everything was just different back then. Yeah I'm 56. 56 year old guys were like halfway dead. Yeah. It's like nobody knew how to work out. Nobody knew how to eat right. There's no vitamins. Yeah. Shit was different man. Yeah. Yeah it's better now in that sense. Definitely. Yeah. Definitely better now. Yeah but so my son I trained him. I'm pretty sure he gonna go to doing the MMA stuff just to learn. But you know I'm big on being able to protect yourself handling your business. So that's good. He love football now though so I'm just letting him. Letting him do his thing. Then so crazy speaking of football and all that man. You can make more in college than you can in the NBA damn. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. But isn't that a good thing though? Yeah because they tried to stop it for so long man. It doesn't make any sense. You are making money and the athletes aren't. And how many athletes because it's so hard to do how many athletes blow their knees out. You know in college and never make it and meanwhile they made millions of dollars for the city or for the university rather. Yeah. They should get some money. How much are those guys making? Uh I don't know they making a lot because you I think being just good and and no arrival you can make people be saying millions you know it can be one to me. That's a lot for a college student as opposed to if you getting all these different deals. Now if you go to thinking about maybe LSU they probably getting. Reese is probably getting crazy money at this point. Do you know Jamie? How much like top college athletes get paid? I think LeBron's son right now, Bronny James is arguable to be the top deal. He's got a couple million dollar deal. Some of them I don't know how much they don't have to be fully disclosed either which is kind of strange. That is kind of strange. It's a imagine if you graduated four years ago and you're like fuck. I gotta be rich as shit. In a way they really kind of owe those people. You know. But you know they they do they deserve because you gotta realize you got a lot of people who support college games and that so you have some of them stars that deserve to get it you know. Oh yeah those college alumni people go ham. They donate a lot. They go crazy with that stuff. Yeah yeah yeah. Definitely man. I mean they make fucking billions of dollars right? Shout out to them man. A lot a lot of talent man. A lot of talent. What changed that they had to pay the athletes now? There's a big push. So Ed O'Bannon who was a basketball player from UCLA in the 90s. They put a like a lawsuit through to get like a. The big deal for them was the NCAA basketball and football games because it was when you played them it was from EA Sports. There's a lot like Madden but they couldn't put their names in it and then they became an easy way you could download the rosters and put the names on them. And they played it was already you could tell who the player was they just didn't have their name on it so like they gave them their full stats and full abilities and all that. And a lot of people it was a very popular game were buying it for those reasons. So they made they got that pushed through like through courts and then once that happened I think that the you know it's Wild West. Isn't that dirty that they did that? That's how everybody man everybody do whatever they can to keep the money as much as they can. I know in every business. Just dirty just dirty. You know some people they don't really think it's bad business to do that they think that's you know they think that's the way to be for me I just never been I ain't the selfish type man. Yeah I'm gonna get mine regardless. That's good for you that's a good perspective like I said you're very balanced. Yeah you know it's like something I forgot to tell you too you know I got my my cartoon I haven't we haven't took it to a network but so I had my cartoon that was out called Adventures of Trey and I ended up doing well now you know everybody on strike but yeah I partner with the very very I don't even know what I'm supposed to say I just say a very very big movie slash comedian for the new cartoon but everything kind of is on hold just to figure out where I'm gonna go I always thought I would have ended up on the dope swim but they didn't they didn't come get me. So is everything is still frozen are they when are they gonna work that out are they close to figuring that out that strike thing because I think Bill Maher was about to redo his show without the writers because he just wanted to employ everybody else and then he said something on Twitter that it seems that they're going to restart it. Zoom negotiations and I guess that they had decided for a long time they were not going to be resuming so that's why people were starting to make other plans. Damn they're waiting people out. Because you got the writers and the actors all start. Yeah it's gonna hurt the production. Actors have not talked about resume negotiations. Fuck how long has it been? I figured I just have to say right here. This doesn't say. Has to be like a few months right? Oh yeah definitely. I would have met. May 2nd started. Second month? No May 2nd. May 2nd what? So five months four months almost. Whoa really? I'm pretty sure they're gonna have to find a way to figure it out. Not even I wouldn't even say from the actor standpoint like realistically they're gonna have to pay them like they need them. We yeah well the actors and then also all the people that are involved in production that can't work either because if you're you know you're a grip or you're a lighting guy or whatever you're doing that's all you do yeah no those people can work. Yeah they're gonna I'm pretty sure they're gonna have to make I don't see a dragon too maybe I mean you can maybe drag to the end of the year but at some point they're gonna have to give in to give them what they want. Yeah I don't know what the fuck is happening. I don't know but they've talked about doing that with the UFC like a fighter's union but I don't think that would work. Fighters are too individual like if someone offered someone a fight like a big fight maybe I don't know maybe I'm wrong. What would the union be to do it? The union would be to negotiate minimum contracts maybe tweak healthcare maybe put together some sort of a retirement plan 401k plan for fighters all those are good ideas. Yeah definitely you know just to be able to take care of family afterwards yeah definitely is important. But there's never been like a fighters union that worked and I don't know if that's because it can't work I've never heard of one working like the boxers didn't do they have a boxing union? Yeah it seems like it only works in some industries but man these fucking strikes if you're in that business like that's that's hard especially coming right off the pandemic where everybody didn't work for a long time already. Yeah see man even though I'm glad I'm why I ain't gonna say I'm glad I'm not in the work because I plan on trying to get an act of the world at some point but even just everything with the pandemic like I just had to figure different ways man like our company Bumpbox it ended up soaring through the pandemic because now you have everybody at home everybody want to jam music everybody want to do different type stuff so different stuff like that was dope. I just I've always been a hustler now you know I got food trucks now I got 18 wheeler man I do end up with everything so it was a crazy story you know Popeyes had a run where they had a chicken sandwich right yeah you remember everybody's going crazy over it yeah so my personal chef I just always just have to make random stuff and one day I'm like man I'm not waiting in that line I want to make my own chicken sandwich and we did it and the way that he made it it was I don't know it was just different man and it got to the point everybody just started calling it the truth chicken sandwich so now it's just like man we're just gonna do the truth truck it'll be chicken sandwich it'll be um chicken sueya tacos he got this the Spanish corn he do it's like no other man it's just a bunch of different stuff so where can people get this so right now we've been going for to figure out like I'm one of them people man I'm cool with adapting the stuff but I like to push it to the limit so lately we've just been going back and forth figuring out what we want to make a permanent location but knowing me I'm gonna try and find a lot and create my own food park at that point you know nice so right now there's no permanent spot but that's what I'm looking for one day yeah I'm one day within the next month I'm opening up a spot yeah nice so the trucks there trucks ready I just got to figure out where I want to be that's good for everybody to go if people want to find out anything about this their website they can go to um as far as the truth truck no you gave me an idea I do need to do that because I may it's mainly Instagram you know um yeah get that on Instagram now you have it on Instagram already yeah so you can look up um there it is the truth truck yeah the truth truck and then you have the truth truck.com not sure I do get that shit before this airs it's gonna be one of them russian porn sites yeah it's gonna be I'm looking for a boyfriend yeah yeah the main place for them yeah yeah as a matter of fact look I'll pay for it now what I was gonna say the main thing people can always on Instagram at Trey A.V. and like I'm hands on with everything man that um man the the main other thing that we're doing see so much other stuff I'll talk to you probably off air because if I go to pushing it now before for reasons like this and I get to ahead of myself but um truth truck.com is available oh but the THA don't fuck this up white boy let's see did it say it's not available what it's not available but you know what my people yeah he probably has it it says it's taken yeah so I'm gonna find out they may I know I didn't somebody yeah I hope somebody didn't see your truck and then register it that would because you know they're up on Instagram already yeah because you know what people do do is they'll go by it and then wait a little while make sure I sell it for them exactly I'm gonna find that out I hopefully let's hope this conversation just was wasted and it's already done but um that you know we can always man um you know the crazy thing you shot it out Bumpbox one time man and shit went crazy that next day on Bumpbox.com yeah yeah you one of the few people that actually it sent traffic like no other to the site man oh beautiful yeah good to hear that yeah and that's been a blessing too so we've been able to like you know we had the Selena box the Leah the Matori is big um and what us doing it's ways to actually feed the family you know and do the DMX you know it's different ways we do it we can help the states and also find ways to get more money for the family so everything I do man I always incorporate trying to give back in some some um sense and I remember talking to Tyson and Michael's like man Trey I watch you do so much and spend so much he's like all the stuff you do um we were talking about my holiday I'm not sure if you're familiar so in Houston my holiday is Trey Day July 22nd 23rd and 24th I got Trey Day in Houston I got one in Milwaukee too but on my holiday it was the day that everybody would celebrate me but I switched it and made it a day to celebrate for the city so I get all the kids in the city their school supplies backpacks um uniforms I bring game rides I bring a bunch of athletes singers um comedians entertainers movie stars that kids only can see on YouTube I bring them all out I rent a stadium out and it's just a family fun day where kids get to experience different stuff that they never get to experience um give away cards scholarships like I just make it a whole weekend of me just giving back but he was like man Trey you had your foundation so long man it's probably people out there that if they knew what you did that would damn their donate off people would come sponsor and I'm one of them people I don't know if you guess you can consider kind of pride was just like man I don't really like asking people for nothing I'm gonna figure it out and just get it done so um lately I've been really trying to focus on really making sure people understand about my foundation and what it is I really do so they can actually do they um rather do they research or just do part do take part in it because you have a website where any of this stuff is listed yeah um angel by nature.com and then um a lot of people know us from angel by nature or during Harvey we started relief gang but um everything we do man we do stuff if you go to google my name you'll see a bunch and I people only get to see like 10 20 percent of what I do oh yeah that's angel by nature. Well Trey thank you very much for coming here man I appreciate you good luck with your new album good luck with Bumpbox and the True Truck and and everything it's always great to see you definitely you know I'm pretty sure we see you