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Ted Nugent is a singer-songwriter, outdoorsman, and political activist. His newest single, "Come and Take It," is out now.

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Is Ted Nugent for real? Heck yeah!

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the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day

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the two important somebody gave me this recently check that out real McCoy that's

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the real McCoy

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yeah they find these on my property outside of Waco they're all over the place

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in Texas I mean

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this this land was occupied for a long time by Native Americans think it's

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something think it's

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obsidian I don't know what it's made out of I don't know much about rocks but

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it's something

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special about holding one of those isn't it always I killed a goose with a Port

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Orford cedar arrow

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real natural turkey feathers built by George Nichols at Jackson Archery in the

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30s

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the arrows the head I found on the Rouge River in Detroit and I was shooting a

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U longbow I might

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have been eight so you found a Native American arrowhead and you use a 1930s

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wooden arrow

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with real turkey feathers high high profile shield cut that George Nichols made

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who I eventually got to

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hunt with who made all of Fred bear's arrows there's much mojo that that that

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emits from my spirit because

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I've been in such unique environments but anyhow I went to uh I went to the

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what was the name of the

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cemetery why Wildwood cemetery and Grand River and and six mile road in Detroit

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right off the Rouge

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River there's a cemetery there and the geese always landed in the ponds and the

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little cricks that ran

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off the Rouge River and I snuck in there with my cousin Mark Schmidt and I

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still have that you would long

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get an electric tape around it because it started to split a little bit from

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1955 maybe wow and there

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was some Canadian geese on a pond and we snuck in almost like ishi like like

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org from the year three

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and sneaking in through the reeds and the nasty shit and I drew back and shot

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that goose and it flopped

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all around but we got that goose ran to the fence climbed over the fence and

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took it home I think it's

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amazing but I would feel so nervous to lose one of those heads there's

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something about those heads

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like I don't think you're supposed there's a lot of places where you're not

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supposed to pick them up

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which I find very bizarre yeah when I was in Nevada we were hunting mule deer I

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was with Steve Rinella

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and I found one there and they informed me that you're not supposed to pick it

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up huh what man has

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the authority to tell you that I don't understand well I think they the idea is

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that it's an artifact

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and that you're supposed to just leave it there which I don't understand

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because

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like either I'm allowed to pick it up and it should go to some sort of uh

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some museum or something I mean I don't know where they would keep them I would

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like to leave it there

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hand-me-downs um continue the mojo pass the mojo on don't you think the mojo

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handed from hand

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to hand from generation to generation would have more spirit div production

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spirit productivity

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than leaving it on what they might call sacred grounds yeah I mean the native

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americans some

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native american folks have had a real problem with people picking up artifacts

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and claiming them as

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their own I think that's that's the issue with it but um for me I mean we were

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on a bow hunting trip

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um and to find an arrow and to know that someone some native american had been

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in that same area

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hundreds and hundreds of years ago and you know hunting for their food to feed

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their family

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in that same ground and then I had picked up a part of their weapon it's pretty

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amazing well it

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might not be historical artifact but I bring I come bearing you've got a lot of

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stuff there's like

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what do you got there come and take it I brought you this they have one at the

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exact oh

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it's signed except this one's autograph so yeah all right I like it they have

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one just like that

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at the range in austin signed by our governor let's put that and I also just

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because I ran out of

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the garage with them also a come and take it hat oh come and take it hat sign

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also a very joe rogan

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I will not comply autographed hat and the reason I'm grabbing these because it's

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a great story this

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is a great story in my life you can have that one then uh reelect that and this

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is a

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ted nugent sunrise safaris will hunt for food and because I gave these to my

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grandkids over the holidays

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this is so important I don't know if you carry a flashlight with you but

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starting today you will

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this little browning flashlight from my buddy george britain at at britain's

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archery in tarpon

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springs florida it is so bright and then when you're going to your stand in the

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morning oh you got a

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green one too so you don't double it up nice and then this will go super bright

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middle and low

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that's amazing that it's that bright and so small i use it 10 times a day when

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we came to the studio

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earlier i had to show it uh show it jeff where the lock was 360 lumens that's a

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lot for a little

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tiny thing like i used to carry a big ass flashlight in my pocket well and it

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clips onto your pants with

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that little or your hat when you wear a cap oh right yeah yeah i wear one of

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those when i go into the

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woods so merry christmas happy thanksgiving happy birthday this should these

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are enough gifts for our next

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four or five years if we don't run into each other again i like it thanks very

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much appreciate it so

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my first opening volley okay most important thing joe how are you i'm good how

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are you you seem good

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thank you you seem good i'm good i'm good i'm good you're healthy you're happy

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you're yeah focused

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you got a samurai thing going on yes everything's good i'm very happy i want to

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know a samurai thing

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what do you mean well supreme focus oh dedication to being oneness with any

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given endeavor and obviously

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if you're arrowing elk with cameron and hunting with steve ranella that's that's

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what i call the

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samurai touch with nature those guys live that stuff you live that stuff i live

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that stuff so i want to

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make sure you're feeling good i'm feeling good yeah very fortunate to know

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those guys to be able to

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have a mentor like my first mentor steve ranella to be able to to have that guy

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take me on michigan

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boy time yes michigan boy great great tradition so what do you got in this pot

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here that's coffee

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sir can i have a slug of that there you go let me slug of that black cross so i

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bring you positive

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spirit and energy and attitude and bring everything goodwill and decency i'm

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having the greatest hunting

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season of my life i'm shooting some mystical arrows into some sacred pump

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stations i'm getting a lot of

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venice and donated to soup kitchens and homeless shelters and neighbors and

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making gifts to the

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band and the crew since we haven't toured and everybody is horny to unleash the

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musical beast yeah

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that is a beautiful thing about that hunters for the hungry program beautiful

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nationwide it's incredible

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to hunt when i took i do media all the time and the hunting thing always comes

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up of course and if they

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don't bring it up i make sure i do because it needs to be promoted and

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celebrated in the face of

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stupidity which boy i have a great story for you you're gonna i don't know you're

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gonna love this

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you already love me but you're gonna love me more in a moment really yes let me

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prepare so anyhow when

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i do the media and i explain to them about venison organic renewable nutritious

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pure natural healthy

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good good win win win win win i never get any pushback not since the 60s and 70s

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where hippies pushed

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back um because it's universally at least understood in its most basic truism

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yeah but whenever i bring up

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that the hunters for the hungry has been going on hunters for the hungry sportsmen

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against hunger

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various state organizations where they distribute natural harvested surplus venison

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to homeless shelters

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soup kitchens needy families even the glenn becky goes 250 million hot meals a

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week a year come on yeah

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that can't be true and i go well you got ted nugent talking to you if it's

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coming out of my mouth

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it's true i do research i don't have opinions i have facts i have 250 250 250

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million pure nutritious meals

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of venison how many animals is that that's crazy i mean but we kill obviously

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you kill uh tens of

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millions many many many meals nationwide yeah but it's um that's is that pigs

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as well or is it just

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elk deer mostly deer probably 90 percent deer not many people donate elk meat

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that's plate no

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don't i donate to friends but i have to love them dearly well i i'm a generous

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loving guy

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but i keep the back straps okay i'm generous but i'm not an idiot yeah well the

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roasts are pretty damn

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good too um i have played on this podcast multiple times you uh shooting pigs

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out of a helicopter so

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beautiful you're just talking about samurai but it's it's a crazy thing that

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like people that don't

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understand will look at that and go this is horrible this is awful it's like

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you don't understand

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invasive species you don't understand the fact that this actually has to be

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done and if you're a person

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that likes to eat vegetables guess what they're going to eat them all they're

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going to destroy them all

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like they they need to do something about these animals and there's no way you

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can stop them from

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breeding there's millions of pigs in texas alone tens of millions yeah if if i

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may put the definitive

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comment on that yeah please do if you have a problem with killing pigs from a

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helicopter you're an

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idiot and let me help fix you because we're all idiots at some point in life

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because we don't know

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nothing there's ignorance and i've been ignorant i'm currently ignorant on how

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to weld i need to learn

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that but i admit my ignorance so that i don't up a weld i get a guy who's not

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ignorant about welding

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so let me fix the ignorant out there and see if i can't weld some intelligence

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into their otherwise

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craving mind for information when we kill pigs from a helicopter it benefits

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the environment

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because they destroy the environment they erode everything and it causes devastation

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to waterways and

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riverine habitat and just every habitat so we're saving the environment so shut

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up we're saving

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agriculture because they destroy tens of millions of dollars of agriculture

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every year so we're saving

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out that's i think that's just in texas yeah just just texas not to mention california

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yeah all over

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mississippi and so when we when we kill pigs from a helicopter we have created

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an industry that i

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legalized before i called then governor perry and then attorney general greg

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abbott it was your idea

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the helicopter thing yeah it was against the law you couldn't pay a helicopter

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pilot to shoot pigs

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only government agents were allowed to do it in texas i know that sounds like a

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new york law

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but it was in texas and when the my buddy johnson said you can't pay me for gas

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i go well it's got

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to be expensive the helicopter cross pilot collateralization the the you i can't

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pay you

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and the game warden go i hope you're not uh paying him to do that i go well who

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are you how how

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could you possibly think you have the authority to determine whether i pay for

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the gas in a

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helicopter as i go up and shoot pigs where do you well that's the law when i so

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the law was you

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couldn't pay for it you couldn't pay for it well why is it like a prostitution

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don't start asking

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don't ask why right why isn't hillary in prison i mean why isn't she that's my

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point the why

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question is is if eternal anyhow so i called governor perry and i said rick you've

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got to be kidding me

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because everybody knows that wild hogs and texas are an absolute scourge of a

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liability you're craving

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systems by which we can reduce the population and then you make the most

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effective solution

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illegal he goes i had no idea like well the guitar player will help now i need

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to call greg abbott so

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on the hunt was chris kobach who happens to be a constitutional attorney really

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a wise one really

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super one right up there with cruz and so we he googled the laws and he rewrote

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them at the camp at the

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helicopter camp we're slamming hogs from the helicopter we're saving farmers

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money we're saving

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the environment we're saving wildlife because hogs kill everything they can

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finally they run into

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whether it's eggs or fawns and they're delicious and pigs are delicious that's

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why we created hogs for

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a cause charity where we pick up the dead hogs we process this organic pork and

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we feed soup kitchens and

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homeless shelters so don't you see it's win win win win everything is good

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there's nothing bad about it

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well it's not sport well then you share with me your last helicopter hog hunt

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where you hit the pigs

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every time from a moving helicopter and an erratically running hog shut the

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fuck up anyhow so after we

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called abbott and and perry and chris kobach these guys are attorneys and i don't

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hold it against them

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uh they rewrote it two weeks later it was legal and here's the next win we

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created an enormous new

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industry that is generating tens of millions of dollars for travel hotels

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groceries ammo sporting

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goods taxidermists ice beer guides outfitters helicopter owners so which win

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win win win so i'll go

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back to my opening statement if you're against this completely conclusively

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definitively win situation

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for everything you're an idiot now take the information i just shared with you

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and try to

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eliminate your idiocy now let i know you're gonna listen to me this is the most

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important thing we're

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going to talk about today i had a great time with you in la and we talked about

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stuff and i talked about

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a vegan diet a vegan vegan diet you corrected me i called it vegan you said

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vegan my son is one and i

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said well don't you know if you really wanted to kill the most things possible

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you would be a vegan

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because the plow and the disc kills everything preparing the field for your

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being your tofu and then

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anything that might just be dismembered and slithered out of the way or the

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disc of the plow

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then they come in with man santa and poison the out of them are you aware joe

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rogan that i was

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bombarded and i understand you heard from a lot of people that never thought of

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it that way that the

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preparing of tofu is the most genocidal slaughter procedure available on planet

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earth because you have to

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kill everything that interferes with the bean production well last night on

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yellowstone a very

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popular series kevin costner playing the boss hog of the yellowstone ranch

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quoted me almost verbatim on

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that statement as he confronted some animal rights people on the show last

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night and i have been bombarded

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lately with people going costner quoted you from the joe rogan interview when

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he confronted animal rights

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from hundreds of people who saw it the producers share taylor sheridan

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according to my son toby is a big

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fan of my defiant ballet my defiance ballet and he must have heard our exchange

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and it joe it was almost

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verbatim of what i said on your podcast that's amazing it's it's awesome

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because people who respond

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to me said yeah i see what you mean i never thought of it that way well maybe

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you should start thinking

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the thing is like people think of animals dying as like a deer is like if you

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shoot a deer you you

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killed an animal but they don't think that if you want to grow lettuce you have

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to displace wildlife

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you have to do what's called monocrop agriculture and when you have thousands

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of acres of soybeans

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for example that's not normal it's not normal for the ground to have only one

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plant for thousands of

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acres and it's not it's not sustainable the only way they can do that is to

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kill everything that

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was everything and the amount of rabbits that they have to kill gophers songbirds

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birds everything

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snakes turtles voles trues anything that's ground nesting gets churned up in

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the in this

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in the in the wheels it's just it's they think of it as you're eating plants

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and but you can

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do it in a way you're not going to kill anything if you grow your own if you

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want to grow your own

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vegetables you have your own garden you do it organically you compost all your

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you know your

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your waste and it's possible to do but most people are not doing that most

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people are a part of

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something that's awful and most people who eat meat are a part of something

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that's awful too and i think

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you and i will both agree that factory farm is disgusting disgusting infuriates

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me and and you know

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before i became a hunter i was on the fence i remember so many pita videos and

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i was like i'm

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either going to be a vegetarian or i'm going to be a hunter i met ranella he

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took me hunting i shot a

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mule deer we cooked it over a fire and i heard this is what i'm doing perfect

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from it felt like i had

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tapped in like i'd opened up a door to some dna that i didn't know existed and

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the way i explain to

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people that i've never hunted i'm like do you know that feeling when you catch

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a fish there's a feeling

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when the fish is on the line there's an excitement that doesn't even totally

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make sense but what that

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excitement is there's there's a primal door that opens up where you realize you

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are now going to

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feed your family you have this fish it's on the line you're going to pull it in

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this wild animal that

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you've captured will now it will now give nutrients to your loved ones that is

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there's in it's in there

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it's in your dna and when you hunt when you the first time i shot that deer and

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we were sitting

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there cooking and eating it over the fire i knew it right away i was like okay

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this is how you're

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supposed to eat because you're a smart man this is how you're supposed to eat

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meat you're supposed to

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go get it yeah that's why i was attacked all throughout my career for murdering

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innocent animals

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and i knew that what i was doing was pure well there's also the reality that no

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animal in the wild

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dies in a nice way they don't die of old age tooth fang and claw i've used the

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term tooth fang and claw

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and nobody knows what that means i have to explain it but when i was growing up

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that's the description of nature yeah because it is the description of nature

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tooth fang and claw there

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is no gentle death in nature it's all prolonged heartbreaking to the human

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psyche yeah and real

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it's natural that's the way the cycle works i mean there's a reason the the

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horrible thing is if if

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it didn't happen that way they would overpopulate and it would be terrible

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diseases yeah destruction of

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habitat yeah and here's the bottom line has to die yes the surplus has to be

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utilized with reverence i.e.

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garlic and butter revenue generated family hours of recreation well how can you

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enjoy killing an

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animal because it's a challenge because it's a fulfilling spiritual experience

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knowing that

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god created these beasts much like the aboriginal people put the the uh the

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hieroglyphics on the cave

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wall because they they were desperate to adequately convey reverence for this

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beast that was difficult to

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get close to with a sharp stick they had to dedicate themselves to a higher

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level of awareness predator

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capabilities reasoning predator in order to kill it cleanly because the mastodon

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would kill them if

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they didn't kill it cleanly and then that hunter brought not just food food

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clothing shelter medicine

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tools weapons and more important than any of that and i'm just a stupid guitar

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player but i figured this out by the

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time i was 12 more important than the tools and the weapons and the food and

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the protein and the

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the the clothing and the and they're the shelters which was what the bison and

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the mastodon provided

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there is a sense when you're done of eternal spirit that this isn't just

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tangible physical stuff

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that something else happens like you talked about around the campfire chewing

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on a mule deer back strap

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when you teach your grandkids how to catch that fish and fillet that beautiful

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fillet off of that

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skeleton and fry it up and you eat it it is a it's a physical ballet but it's

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equal as a spiritual ballet

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because you're for a dirt bag if you're a dunce and if you don't care you're

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gonna have to hire somebody

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else to do it and that's where the factory farming comes in and i gotta i gotta

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comment god bless the

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farmers and ranchers because if we want 10 billion chickens a week that's how

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you gotta do it yeah i'm

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not in this by the way there's a lot of ranchers that they treat their animals

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very well and they really

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just have one bad moment of one day yes and that's when they get that piston

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through the brain and it

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happens instantaneously there's there's a lot of great ranchers out there i've

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hung out with them

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all my life it's not all factory farming like you can buy ethically raised food

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the majority of them

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are conscientious stewards they they watch the water the soil the air there's a

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company that we work

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with too it's called butcher box and they great great stuff yeah it's a good

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great company and they

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source all their food from ethically uh ethical ranchers ethical like their

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seafood all it's also

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from sustainable sources all their chickens or free-range wild chicken i mean

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that's a reaction

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free-range chickens that's a proper responsible reaction to the dumbing down of

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america where they

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don't care right and then of course we can get into the insanity of squaloring

21:59

for health care because

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people don't care about their health and it starts with diet the sugar is the

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most important thing

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isn't that funny that like all this health care talk very very very little talk

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about losing weight

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and and then making sure you eat good nutrition very little talk of it through

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this whole pandemic

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it was an amazing opportunity for the government to say folks here is one of

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the most important things

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you can do for your immune system make your body healthy tucker carlson is the

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only guy i've seen

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that mentions that specifically yeah i think he's a great guy but i tucker's a

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fisherman you know

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hardcore yeah hardcore flyer yep that's why he was on ranella's podcast and i

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was really impressed with

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his knowledge of fishing and the fact how he's so dedicated to it and he

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understands this physics this

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physics of spirituality about the dedication and tying that fly just like the

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midge it's an art form

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the fly fishing thing is weird though to me because a lot of them just let them

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go

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they're just out there i can't catch them with fish yeah i know there's some

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screams where you

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have to and i i admit that but i'm not going to fish there because i like a

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slab yeah i i find it

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odd i mean i know that's fun to do i've done it before you know i've gone fly

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fishing i've gone um

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salmon fishing when you have to let them go i get it but it's weird it doesn't

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feel right no this is

23:19

food you don't let food go it also feel like imagine if you could like shoot an

23:22

elk in the head with

23:23

like a blunt dart and it knocked them out cold don't do it walked up on them

23:27

took a picture of

23:28

them and then gave them some smelling salts and got your rhino hunting in africa

23:32

the green rhino hunts

23:33

right yeah they dart them but i'm not interested in that either i'm not

23:36

interested in that well i i

23:37

would be interested in going to one of those things because you know there's a

23:41

whole conservation effort

23:42

to try to save those rhinos and i think it'd be fascinating just to be around

23:45

and watch it happen but

23:46

sure that you know there was a guy that i had on the podcast many years ago cory

23:50

knowles

23:50

knowlton or no cory knowlton no well tonight yeah he's a guy who uh there was a

23:56

big because he bought

23:58

a black rhino tag for hundreds of thousands of dollars and people wanted to

24:02

kill him and he did

24:04

a great job of explaining the money that he's spending to go and hunt this

24:08

black rhino first of

24:10

all they had to kill that rhino because that rhino was killing it was a rogue

24:13

it was i have my own story i

24:15

did one i killed one well let's i'll get that in a second but his story was

24:19

interesting because the

24:20

black rhino is an endangered animal it is and it was killing all these viable

24:25

young males but it

24:26

wasn't viable anymore so it wasn't it was no longer breeding but it was still

24:30

killing it had to go they

24:31

had to do something about it and so the money that he spent doing that goes

24:36

towards conservation to

24:38

take care of these rhinos and cnn of all places this is back when cnn wasn't

24:42

quite as fucked up

24:44

they did a really good job explaining this and they followed him around and the

24:48

guy who is the

24:49

reporter said i have a much better understanding of what this is all about and

24:53

it's very confusing

24:54

honesty from cnn it's it's a look can i have a copy of that i i would worship

24:58

it was just a video of

24:59

it but it's it's a very confusing thing to people that don't understand that

25:03

the whole reason why the

25:04

animals are thriving in africa is because people want to pay to shoot them and

25:08

that's like to a lot of

25:10

people that is a real problem like they have a real problem with that they're

25:13

like that except that

25:14

that's that's not all that is i i'm 73 in two weeks you look great uh like i

25:20

said if i had some sleep

25:22

i'd really be handsome um but i hunt so hard every day i just beat the out of

25:27

myself and it's so fun

25:28

the only thing you were saying you were on date before we get started you you

25:31

you were saying before

25:32

the podcast you were on day what 30 what i don't know no this is uh what is it

25:37

november 29 i started

25:38

mid-august wow and i hunt every day this first day i slept in wow first day i

25:43

slept in if it's

25:45

raining i duck hunt if it's not raining i deer hunt or i hunt every day i live

25:49

on a ranch and

25:50

needs to die and i get a kick out of sneaking up on him with a bow and arrow it's

25:55

so

25:55

difficult that the challenge how many meals do you think you donate every year

25:58

to the hunters for the hungry

26:01

thousands thousands thousands that's incredible yeah it really is amazing

26:06

because if like if you

26:07

just donated to soup camps or soup kitchens rather and you donated to any other

26:11

organization that feeds

26:12

the hungry you know you'd have to spend a load of money to get thousands of

26:17

meals and they need

26:18

meat they can get dented cans of beans they can get four day old bread but they

26:22

can't get meat right

26:23

so the majority of soup kitchens and homeless shelters i work with uh project

26:27

caritas in waco

26:29

and we got butchers in michigan where we donate whole carcasses and again i'm a

26:34

sweetheart but i'm

26:34

not an idiot i keep the back straps i mean not all of them but most of the back

26:40

straps that's what we

26:42

like but anyhow um that system regarding the rhino is a perfect example because

26:48

it's so controversial

26:52

i killed a white rhino in south africa in 95 96 this rhino had killed three

26:58

rhinos ravaged entire

27:00

agriculture operations and had killed young elephants it was a rogue rhino he

27:06

was 20 some years old and

27:08

they had to kill him now there's a choice if you want to save rhinos and save

27:13

other animals this rogue

27:16

rhino has to die you can take tax dollars or however they do it in africa and

27:21

you can hire people to go

27:23

kill it or you can sell that tag someone who wants the big five or someone who's

27:28

fascinated by dangerous

27:30

game and big giant animals and i'd never killed a rhino and as grown up rhinos

27:35

were the symbol of like

27:37

the ultimate dangerous hunt even though they're not um something i learned

27:41

later but the money i paid for

27:43

that rhino paid for years of salaries for anti-poaching squads to save the rhino

27:52

so my killing

27:53

the rhino saved many rhinos and other wildlife and the the elephant that i

27:59

killed in south africa had

28:01

already killed people it came over from the tule herd in south af from botswana

28:05

across the uh

28:07

the the lompopo river and had ravaged agriculture destroyed villages the

28:12

elephant had to die now

28:14

that's not the typical scenario it's not like the deer and the elk and the moose

28:21

and antelope are

28:22

threatening people but they produce surplus the animals have babies every year

28:29

the ground doesn't expand

28:32

the population increases every spring but the ground not only doesn't expand it

28:39

recedes because

28:40

of habitat destruction i think it's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow

28:43

well they need to start

28:44

swallowing it i know but i don't hear it enough i mean if it wasn't for you and

28:48

me i don't think

28:49

anybody here this it's hard to hear it it's it's hard to have the conversation

28:53

because if you go go to the

28:54

average person you say is there ever any reason to shoot a rhino they'd be like

28:58

no don't you know that

28:59

rhinos are dying okay well what if the rhino's killing other rhinos they'd go

29:02

does that happen

29:04

like they don't even know they don't even know joe you're talking to the guy

29:07

who's been on the front

29:08

line of this stuff all my life i know you have but i go to whole foods or i'm

29:12

at the starbucks or i'm in

29:15

mill valley north of san francisco people come up to me all the time that don't

29:19

look like

29:20

conservationists or conservatives or ted nugent fans and they initiate this

29:25

dialogue with me and within

29:28

minutes if they have certain questions about assault weapons or shooting in

29:32

dangerous species i i take

29:34

a deep breath and i be in the consummate gentleman trying to educate them in a

29:40

gentle way but in a

29:41

non-compromising way and within minutes because you've been no not at all

29:47

because the the edu the

29:49

anti-education system has so efficiently dumbed down such a huge swath of our

29:55

culture that i feel

29:58

like i was just going to share the the gal from starbucks and is it mill valley

30:03

or valley mills

30:05

north of calip north of san francisco um confronted me and i just took a couple

30:09

minutes to explain

30:10

surplus and value what did she say to you she goes i can't believe that you

30:14

would kill an elk

30:17

and i go well have you ever eaten elk i mean what do you eat i mean i'm a vegan

30:21

i then explained the

30:22

whole tofu slaughter system she goes yeah but still and i go no not no it's not

30:29

not yeah but still

30:30

that's never a legitimate response you have to ask him does one animal equal

30:35

does one life is one life

30:37

equal or lives more valuable when they're big and the beautiful thing about

30:41

that environment in that

30:43

ultra-liberal environment she is aware of the field the the field to table

30:49

restaurants in in that area

30:53

where they're getting these wild pigs and they're getting the permits to

30:56

process them and deer meat

30:58

and and wild squirrels and and raccoons they're eating raccoons who's right

31:04

where they're up in san

31:06

francisco there's a field table specialty restaurant where they need to eat

31:10

looters

31:11

we need to trap them um so so common sense once explained with adequate

31:22

evidence to support the

31:24

explanation i find that it's approaching a hundred percent of the time those

31:30

hardcore against it literally turn i literally have seen this happen so many

31:36

times

31:40

oh i didn't know that they always took their head and they kind of wince and go

31:45

because they want to

31:46

cling to the fantasy that they can save a life by not killing a moose right and

31:51

within minutes one

31:53

and i do this on our spirit of the wild show you should see you should see the

31:57

bombardment of emails

31:58

and correspondence i get where when i was on your podcast jesse james who

32:02

builds the guns and the hot rods

32:04

here in austin he said i fixed his daughters who were viciously against him

32:09

hunting and catching fish

32:10

and not releasing them until they heard the explanation of how many things die

32:16

for a salad

32:16

and he said they never heard it like that before and quite honestly neither did

32:21

i but i lived this

32:22

stuff i i've driven a tractor i see the seagulls and the crows behind me and i

32:27

see the the slithering

32:28

dismembered creatures that the plow destroyed and that's why the seagulls and

32:32

the crows are following

32:33

the tractor to eat these wounded animals because in order to get a tofu salad

32:37

you got to kill the

32:38

shit out of a whole bunch of stuff what i was getting at is that you got to ask

32:42

a lot of these

32:43

folks too does one life equal one life does the life of one small rodent like a

32:48

mouse that gets run

32:50

over in a tractor is that the same as an elk because if i shoot one elk i eat

32:54

that elk for a year yes

32:56

joe i had this conversation with my son rocco who's in the other room how'd

33:01

your son become a vegan

33:02

he's a very nice guy don't mean to pick on your rock he's an amazing is he in

33:05

here right now i love

33:07

him mad i love him so much it's immeasurable and he's so smart he's such a

33:12

smart ass he's such a

33:13

is that a rebellion critical thing because i know that's ted nugent no some

33:17

people jump to that

33:18

conclusion but he has a digestive condition and he discovered a diet where he

33:23

didn't have

33:24

complications and that diet ended up being hardcore vegan what is the digestive

33:29

complication um he'd have

33:31

to explain it but it's a you know that i have a buddy of mine who's a hunter

33:35

who got that um

33:37

that lone star tick disease oh geez yeah you know that yeah the lone star tick

33:41

these people it's

33:42

it's something called alpha gal allergic to meat yeah and he's he's a hunter

33:46

and he's allergic to meat

33:47

he got it during a hunt he had a tick burrow itself it's it's really kind of

33:52

ironic he had a tick

33:53

burrow itself on a hunt in into his belly button and he didn't realize it was

33:58

even in there and then

33:59

eventually by the time he got it out there he was feeling sick he didn't feel

34:03

good he went and got

34:04

diagnosed and he started whenever he'd eat meat he'd have headaches and he'd

34:07

feel awful man and he

34:09

got this disease which is um there's a lot of uh diseases that come from ticks

34:14

folks and lyme disease

34:15

is the most notorious one but this uh one from the lone star tick it has

34:20

something called it's like

34:21

alpha galactose or they're called alpha gal for short i believe i don't know

34:26

the exact term of the uh

34:27

uh the uh the the enzyme or the whatever it is that it targets but that is what

34:33

is in meat and when

34:34

you eat meat it makes you really sick and it could last for a year or more you

34:41

know so he's in the

34:41

process of it right now shout out to my friend evan yeah a moment of education

34:45

for our fellow hunters

34:46

out there examine the creature you're about to go yes check for ticks check

34:51

your body for ticks because

34:52

you can get those ticks off within the first 24 hours you generally don't get

34:56

the lime and you don't

34:57

get um the alpha gal we've had friends that have become really really borderline

35:03

paralyzed from tick

35:05

bites oh my god that lime disease will you up my brother jeff his young son patrick

35:11

is over in

35:12

switzerland or germany right now getting treated he's got it so bad and they

35:16

don't treat it in the same way

35:18

here in the states what's the difference how they treat it over there i have no

35:21

idea some kind of

35:22

incubation where they turn up the heat and they give them a fever of 104 105

35:27

for prolonged time under

35:29

control and try to burn it out of them jesus oh it's just horrible generally

35:34

over here they just

35:35

give you like a shitload of antibiotics yeah if you get the antibody here's a

35:39

great here's a tick

35:40

story for all you tick hunters out there because if you're hunting you're going

35:43

to run into them if

35:44

you're in the outdoors especially spring turkey hunting you're sitting on the

35:47

grass waiting for a bird to

35:48

come in right there and tick epicenter yeah a friend of ours brother two

35:53

brothers in uh

35:55

jackson county michigan this must have been back in the 70s they both shot deer

36:01

during the gun season

36:02

and when you gut the deer you cut down the pelvic and on the usually on the hams

36:08

on that white hair you

36:09

can see ticks especially here in texas well they dismissed it because there

36:12

wasn't much knowledge

36:14

about that back then well they both found ticks on themselves and the one

36:20

brother had another

36:22

bronch bronchite bronchial infection so his doctor prescribed hardcore

36:29

antibiotics to the one brother

36:31

but the other one didn't get the antibiotics and the other one's in a

36:34

wheelchair now because it it

36:37

metastasized and just crippled him yeah my friend's son got um he got bell's

36:44

palsy and he's only five

36:45

years old half his face turned paralyzed and it you know was up for quite a

36:50

while before it came back

36:51

jamie would do me a favor and look that up i want to make sure that i'm saying

36:54

this right this alpha

36:55

galactose from whatever the it is i know it's alpha gal for short it's from the

37:00

lone star tick

37:01

lone star tick makes you allergic i mean have it on the mayo clinic so it doesn't

37:05

say what alpha gal

37:06

stands for it just says alpha gal syndrome oh there it is alpha gal syndrome

37:11

alpha gal syndromes

37:12

recently recently identified type of food allergy to red meat other products

37:16

from mammals in the united

37:17

states conditions most often caused by a lone star tick bite the bite transmit

37:21

a sugar molecule called alpha

37:23

gal i think it's a short shortened version of the real name into the person's

37:28

body in some people

37:29

this triggers an immune system reaction that later produces a mild to severe

37:34

allergic reaction to red

37:35

meat such as beef pork lamb or other mammal products lone star tick is found

37:39

predominantly in the

37:41

southeastern united states and most cases of alpha gal syndrome occur in that

37:45

region the tick can also be

37:47

found in the eastern and southern central united states the condition appears

37:51

to be spreading further north and

37:52

west however as deer carry the lone star ticked to new parts of the united

37:58

states you know what's

37:58

weird have you heard that um a large percentage of deer are carrying covet 19 i

38:04

don't believe it

38:05

it's true i i just don't based on what the cdc no no no no based on they've

38:10

they've these uh hunters have

38:12

um captured or um taken samples i think what state was it in that they've wisconsin

38:19

a bunch in michigan yeah

38:20

found a bunch they found like more than 50 percent carried antibodies yeah but

38:24

just how do you measure

38:25

50 percent of the deer herd no no no not 50 percent of deer herd 50 percent of

38:29

those they tested but

38:31

what's interesting is um this was on ronella's podcast which is very

38:34

informative meat eater podcast

38:36

one of the best hunting podcaster is um the best he goes back in time the uh

38:40

the doctor that was uh the

38:42

scientist that was studying this and so they had been collecting uh blood

38:45

samples on these deer for decades so

38:48

they went back a decade ago and there's none and so this is a very recent thing

38:52

that these deer and

38:54

they don't know how whether it's from the captive cervid industry you know

38:58

people come in contact with

38:59

these deer you know when people farm deer sure they really don't know they don't

39:03

know why and how but

39:04

they that's one of the things that they're saying about these viruses like this

39:08

idea of stopping the

39:09

spread of the virus there's always going to be animal reservoirs and it's it's

39:14

almost impossible

39:16

to stop a virus entirely and that the best case scenario is the virus

39:19

eventually mutates to a point

39:22

where it's not nearly as dangerous and they think that that's what happened to

39:26

the spanish flu and they

39:28

also think that that's what's happening currently with with covet that slowly

39:31

over time it'll mutate to a

39:33

point where it's not as dangerous and they think that this new one in south africa

39:38

even though

39:38

everybody's freaking out about this new strain was it called what are they

39:42

called omnicom omicron

39:43

sounds like one of the transformers the uh they think that this new one is the

39:48

all the cases have

39:48

been extremely mild yeah basically the symptoms of an average cold yeah and

39:52

they're going nuts about

39:54

it yeah it's crazy i've been hearing from emergency in new york city they

39:57

declared a state of emergency for

40:00

what literally is very mild for all the people that have caught new york city

40:03

did that i'm shocked to

40:05

hear that they overreacted and they're following the i think it's the whole

40:07

state the narrative uh new

40:09

york yeah i don't know if it's new york state or the city but i think they're

40:12

both the new the new

40:13

governor's wacky well here's here's what i think is the most important element

40:18

of that story where they're

40:20

shutting down um people coming in from africa first of all uh biden and his

40:27

sidekicks

40:29

immediately attack trump for being racist for doing that and now they're doing

40:33

it i think that's an

40:34

interesting observation uh that is very indicative but i hear from a bunch of

40:41

outfitters huge gazillion

40:44

dollar industry billions and billions of dollars uh that are generated in south

40:49

africa desperately needed

40:51

revenues some of the highest revenues brought into that country not just south

40:56

africa but whole southern

40:57

africa botswana zimbabwe zambia mozambique namibia and they're all shut down

41:03

they're all shut down and

41:04

all the safari club international dallas club safari houston safari club all

41:08

these conventions that

41:09

generate billions of dollars per convention yeah these guys can't come and put

41:15

on their exhibits and

41:17

can't book hunters and a lot of people would dismiss it as a inconsequential

41:22

industry it's a

41:23

consequential well and it's not just that industry it's also safaris where

41:27

people want to go and just

41:28

see wild animals sure and that's a huge industry as well and what's really

41:32

crazy is this this did not

41:34

they don't think it came from africa it was found there they think it was found

41:37

there and they've

41:38

also found it in brazil they found it in new zealand they found in a few other

41:42

places and they think

41:44

someone who is a vaccinated traveler because in order to go there you got to be

41:47

vaccinated they think a

41:48

vaccinated traveler went there like from europe because to travel from europe i

41:52

believe most most

41:53

of the countries you have to be vaccinated they think that that's how it got

41:57

there that someone

41:58

picked it up somewhere else brought it to south africa and then in south africa

42:02

it was identified

42:03

clusterfuck who knows i mean that it might have come from south africa it might

42:08

not have but the

42:09

point is like why this to shut down africa it seems incredibly cruel like i i

42:14

believe you have to give

42:16

people freedom you got to give people the opportunity to make their own choices

42:22

and i think you know

42:23

there's ways to test people it's not hard to test it's one of the things they

42:26

did when the people

42:27

landed uh one of the planes landed from uh south africa i forget where it

42:32

landed but they tested 61 people on

42:35

the flight tested positive um 61 and then they put those people in hotels to

42:41

quarantine for where it's

42:42

over but again very mild symptoms so this is like a huge overreaction in so far

42:49

we've seen a whole lot

42:50

of that god damn it's i never would have thought that it would be this easy to

42:55

get people to not just

42:56

comply but to turn on their fellow americans and to i mean not just americans

43:01

all over the country

43:02

australia has probably got it worse than anybody but one of these hats i gave

43:05

it says i will not

43:05

comply it's got a picture of a beautiful rifle on it uh a buddy of mine came to

43:09

me and had one of

43:10

those hats and asked me to sign it and a bunch of his buddies say where can i

43:13

get one i'd like one of

43:14

those sign so i made a few and after a couple thousand we're at like 50 000 of

43:19

those right now

43:20

that people go to ted newton.com and get autographed i will not comply hats but

43:24

it's not just about

43:26

gun confiscation it's about arbitrary punitive capricious nonsense founded decrees

43:35

from people

43:35

who don't have the authority to give those decrees right yeah that's the

43:39

clusterfuck 20. they never

43:40

have had it before they never had the ability to tell you you can't work before

43:44

and now they do

43:45

and they're using it a lot and it's not they're not using it in a rational way

43:49

and they're not using it

43:51

with a real understanding of the consequences of what they're doing to these

43:54

people that have

43:55

literally had these businesses through their family for decades and decades

43:58

they've worked so hard

44:00

and now it's all gone it's all gone and then you look at florida florida made

44:04

completely different

44:05

choices and florida's fine so it's it doesn't make any sense like if you look

44:11

at overall rationally

44:12

like if you look at the state of the country and what california did versus

44:16

what florida did

44:18

right now florida has the lowest numbers of cases per day florida's economy is

44:22

booming the real

44:23

state economy is booming because people are escaping all these states where you

44:26

can't do anything yeah

44:27

and they're going to florida yeah we did the first yes in texas we did the

44:31

first ufc in florida in

44:33

april so the pandemic shut everything down in march we did a ufc in florida in

44:38

april i mean we didn't

44:39

have a crowd because people were still a little skittish but florida at least

44:42

we could go to restaurants

44:44

you know you had to wear a mask i was like fine i'll whatever i thought it

44:48

would last like a couple more

44:49

months and then we'd be over with but florida was the first and they were

44:53

widely criticized but now

44:54

if you look at it i mean except for times where these these surges where people

44:59

love to capitalize

45:00

on that those moments and say look you're killing people you're killing people

45:04

the if you adjust for

45:05

age florida has done as well if not better than any state in the country when

45:09

it comes to what happens

45:10

with this virus they've shown over time that if you look at how this virus

45:16

works and if you look at the

45:18

response to it lockdowns don't help they just don't yeah i've been following

45:22

that and they definitely

45:23

don't help these people's lives and they definitely don't help overdoses they

45:27

don't help depression

45:29

they don't help people losing businesses that again they've worked for decades

45:32

for i i firmly believe

45:36

that you have to let people make their own decisions and once we understand

45:40

what this is

45:41

this is not the black plague it's not killing 50 of the population and there's

45:45

all these remedies that

45:46

are completely ignored that no one cares about no one cares about vitamins and

45:50

vitamin d and the fact

45:51

that at one point in time they measured i believe it was 84 of the people in

45:57

the icu with covid had

45:59

insufficient levels of vitamin d sure and only four percent at sufficient

46:02

levels and if you look at the

46:04

country in general it's more than 70 of the people are deficient in vitamin d

46:08

that's a crazy number and

46:09

it's not an expensive thing to get vitamin d if you can get it outside it's

46:13

natural you just lay in the

46:14

sun you get it which is the best form of the best way yeah that's the free form

46:18

but you can buy it as

46:19

a supplement but meanwhile you don't i've never heard that once from these

46:23

press conferences you

46:25

mean fauchy doesn't recommend natural uh intelligent taking care of your health

46:29

before you ask for

46:30

health care well you know what you could say that too if they want to talk

46:33

about vaccines and they

46:34

want to talk about all these other things say that say that but also talk about

46:37

these other things

46:38

talk about quercetin talk about zinc talk about ionophores talk about how

46:42

important it is to take

46:44

care of your health and drink a lot of water and lose weight there was an

46:47

article a peer-reviewed study

46:49

recently about what is happening with see if you can find this with overweight

46:54

people that overweight

46:55

people one of the things that's happening with uh covid and overweight people

46:59

is that their body is not

47:01

producing the um the antibodies correctly because of the fact that they their

47:06

body's so overweight sure

47:08

there's something happening there's a process that goes on while you're obese

47:12

that doesn't go on with

47:13

a person who's lean and that this it's like a significant issue and it comes to

47:18

your immune

47:19

system and your immune system's response to covid and it's one of the reasons

47:23

why so many people

47:24

at one point times 78 of the people in the icu for covid were obese well the

47:29

new family is in mourning

47:30

this year we've lost some great friends and most of them were dramatically

47:35

overweight here it is right

47:36

here the results of the study show that the majority of covid 19 patients with

47:40

obesity

47:41

make almost indiscernible amounts of neutralizing anti-sars cov2 antibodies

47:47

suggesting that obese

47:48

individuals may be at a higher risk to respond poorly to covid 19 infection but

47:54

i think overall before we

47:55

even get into the minutiae uh i'd like to think that one thing we can

47:59

accomplish and you've done so

48:01

in your podcast and i salute you and thank you for that is for people to focus

48:05

on their lifestyles

48:07

yes what what is mr hand putting in mr grocery cart yeah and can you pronounce

48:12

the ingredients right and

48:14

is it really something you want your children to eat there is a pandemic of blubber

48:19

in this country

48:20

that is just inexcusable if it says diet or sugar free don't buy it yeah best

48:27

thing you can do is go

48:28

hunting and have a garden yeah drink water and drink a lot of water literally

48:33

the best thing you can do

48:34

sugar and the carbs out of your lifestyle my wife shemaine my son rocco my son

48:39

the whole nugent family

48:41

hardcore intelligent caring conscientious taking care of sacred temple that's

48:47

another term i think we

48:49

talked about it on our first podcast together that when i was growing up this

48:53

was known as the sacred

48:54

temple yeah when i use that term to anybody under 50 they don't have the faintest

48:58

idea what i'm talking

48:59

about just like the term tooth fang and claw that nature isn't cuddly and cute

49:03

and it's not bambi

49:05

it's savagery it's it's hardcore blood and guts and that's beautiful in its own

49:12

way but people have

49:13

to start paying attention to what mr hand is putting into mr mouth and here's

49:20

another one joe

49:21

the chemical warfare that is intentionally waged upon our families with the air

49:27

fresheners the chemicals

49:28

the downy fabric softeners those are bad the scented but they smell so good

49:32

wait a minute

49:33

don't smell good it smells smells like a french whore on a bad day wait a

49:38

minute that's some poison

49:39

shit shemaine and i it smells good if you open somebody's brainwashed you if

49:44

you if you open the door

49:47

to your house and we've had this happen where our friends invite us to these

49:50

beautiful homes

49:51

and they open the door to welcome us in we can smell the fabric software we can

49:56

smell the plug-in

49:57

heated chemical air fresheners yeah it's it's just horrible it can't be good

50:03

for you more chemicals

50:04

is not better than less chemicals yeah i don't think that those are good for

50:08

you flowers are good for

50:09

you should have flowers they smell good i like i like dishes full of dirt that's

50:13

what i like

50:14

do you wear deodorant i do wear to your all natural stuff from a uh uh an

50:19

organic store

50:22

what is all no chemicals does that work because uh yeah mine work i smell i

50:26

smell good do you yeah

50:28

give me a good whiff before we get out i will i'm gonna hug you i'm gonna give

50:30

you a whiff i keep all

50:32

chemicals out of my life now do let me think what i have that's probably not

50:36

good i have this thing

50:38

called ginger beer that's got some sugar in it i like that but not a lot you

50:42

know in moderation right

50:44

mostly our life is organic vegetables and fruits and venison well again like if

50:48

you get to be your

50:50

age and you have the amount of energy that you have you're doing something

50:53

right obviously clean

50:54

and sober for 73 years is a good start that's a good start that's a good start

50:58

you do you drink a

50:59

little wine every now and then i do drink some good red wine and shemaine

51:03

chooses and picks my wine

51:04

because i have no idea you just don't get blasted i i drink i i like it this

51:08

much right you can still

51:09

stay that's fine everybody at the shakesgiving dinner table the new just drink

51:13

beer and wine they have

51:14

a couple of highballs whatever that is um but i don't i can't stand the taste

51:19

of liquor i like a good sweet

51:21

wine but a couple drinks and a good cigar around a campfire i've shot our

51:26

machine guns and there are

51:27

certain procedures that seem to be good for the psyche yeah i enjoy a good

51:31

cigar as well i i and i

51:33

like an ice glass of wine but i do like to get drunk occasionally a lot of my

51:37

friends do too

51:38

i take counter measures but see i can i can accomplish all things getting drunk

51:44

without getting

51:45

drunk if you want crazy and stupid and out of control all i have to do is go

51:49

crazy stupid and out of

51:50

control i don't i'm sure i don't need any impetus i don't need any outside

51:55

influences the great apache

51:57

chief said god has already given you everything you need and i believe that

52:03

wildness uninhibitedness

52:05

absolute gonzo misbehavior whatever you need to do is already in here you just

52:11

need to know how to

52:12

unleash it for example recently they i do all these interviews i have a new

52:16

record coming out called

52:17

detroit muscle which is i sent you a bunch how many records have you had 40

52:21

million i've sold but i think

52:23

20 some 30 albums that's pretty incredible yeah i started in 67 not when i was

52:30

67 1967. do you know

52:32

how many fighters come out to stranglehold by the way of course i do well what

52:35

a lick shall i yeah

52:37

please do i mean there's so many fighters come out to that song because like

52:41

for a jujitsu guy and military

52:43

military guys going into battle

53:10

hitman

53:20

look look at this look at this look at your goosebumps those are real look at

53:26

that hair standing up on end

53:27

it really is after a thousand years of that thousand years and you still get

53:31

fired up what a great lick

53:32

though it's a great song that all comes from bo diddley when you first get a

53:37

guitar when i was like

53:38

seven years old of course who doesn't feel

53:43

that is such a natural rhythm i just on the phone with billy gibbons and he

54:02

said

54:02

that a fetus at conception if that bo diddly lick is happening move his little

54:09

toes it will dance so my

54:11

point is is that this right hand if i jacked off i'd pull my dick clean off

54:15

because this right hand

54:16

you jack off with your left hand but no i i hired never mind i i i signed so

54:23

many autographs and all

54:24

these hats every day and all these flags and i play my guitar every day and i

54:29

started with the his god

54:31

bo diddley

54:34

you hear all the conch

54:38

jack jack well what is

54:49

that and i learned that not just bo diddley but a guy named jimmy mccarty know

54:57

the name jimmy

54:59

mccarty 1960 my band the lords opened up for billy lee and the rivieras martha

55:07

and the vandellas and

55:08

gene pitney who had a hit song called um town without pity this history so i

55:14

opened up i was 12

55:17

going on 12. my band the lords opened up billy lee and the rivieres 12 and you're

55:21

opening up for them

55:22

yeah i when i was 14 i opened up for the supremes and the beau brumbles at coble

55:28

hall because my

55:28

band the lords won the michigan battle of the bands because we were bad for

55:32

white boys i'm telling

55:33

you 14. yes it was awesome so anyhow going back to wald lake casino novi michigan

55:39

wald lake michigan

55:41

billy the rivieres it was billy levice destroyed 10 tambourines per song every

55:46

song had three

55:47

forehead vein popping crescendos johnny benanjic 15 years old on ludwig drums

55:53

playing it

55:53

nobody played bass drums like that and there's this kid

56:00

throttling like some kind of industrial beast and then earl elliott on a rickenbacker

56:06

bass through a

56:07

uh an ampeg b15 uh joe kubrick on a gibson 335 cherry through a fender twin amp

56:15

and this long-legged

56:17

motherfucker on a gibson birdland and a fender twin reverb jimmy mccarty and

56:25

they started a song

56:26

called jenny take a ride i was already into the bow diddly chucka chucka chucka

56:30

stuff but when he started jenny

56:32

take a ride only i can do this only i can replicate what jimmy did that night

56:46

and it went like this

57:00

did it oh see cc rider come on see baby what you have done now oh see cc rider

57:13

come on see you baby

57:14

what you have done now ah you made me love you nah nah nah your man is watch

57:22

this right hand well i go

57:30

get the fuck out of here do you feel that yes yes what the kind of music is

57:36

that it's amazing so i

57:37

saw this birdland nobody played a birdland it's a jazz guitar it's made for

57:53

playing things like

58:00

which is cool great tone huh right

58:10

great rich bell kind of tone

58:27

but the but when jimmy played it that

58:30

fuck wow so that imprinted gibson birdland fender twin gibson birdland fender

58:40

twin right hand bow

58:42

diddly on stair holy so eventually i had to get a gibson birdland and the way i

58:48

play comes from the

58:49

bow diddly chuck berry and if you chuck berry i mean

59:05

my right hand was was playing all the counter rhythms and so that's where the

59:22

whole

59:28

cat scratch the new record's got a song called detroit muscle

59:37

i don't write songs i ejaculate them i just pick up my guitar go

59:53

it's just made me play so chuck berry bo diddly little richard jimmy mccarty

1:00:09

billy lee and the

1:00:09

rivieras by the way changed their name years later to mitch rider in the detroit

1:00:13

wheels i talked to mitch on

1:00:15

thanksgiving i still keep in touch with these guys 60 years later wow so the

1:00:20

new record is the

1:00:21

continuation of you use the word primal primal is my life whether it's with a

1:00:27

sharp stick or a guitar

1:00:29

a chainsaw primal is pure and i think that field to table is a return to primal

1:00:37

i think you discovering

1:00:38

that you can either go vegan or a hunter you made the primal decision i think

1:00:43

primal is the answer to

1:00:45

every problem mankind has subjected themselves to getting back to tooth fang

1:00:52

and claw the earth

1:00:54

accountability your step did the step that you take benefit the world or did it

1:01:02

harm the world

1:01:03

both literally and figuratively so that's how i've conducted my life and the

1:01:07

new record

1:01:08

it's just it's a orgy of killer songs and my drummer jason hartless and bass

1:01:16

player greg smith

1:01:17

are what every guitar player dreams to have at their side the best musicians

1:01:23

you've ever heard that's

1:01:24

awesome you know i don't play music i don't have any musical talent i've never

1:01:29

studied it but i'm

1:01:30

always fascinated by the fact that especially with guitar that i can hear a few

1:01:35

licks and i'm pretty

1:01:36

sure i could guess who's playing sure you know like gary clark jr for example

1:01:41

sure he has a very

1:01:42

specific sound here's his tone here

1:01:55

he got that deep bass bass tone yeah you know steve rayvon obviously but jimmy

1:02:06

hendrix particularly get

1:02:07

out of here get out of here you know i mean that that guy he was he the first

1:02:11

that really had his own

1:02:12

like legitimate distinctive sound

1:02:19

jimmy hendrix

1:02:29

what the did you ever work with him i jammed with jimmy i was in a little room

1:02:36

with him

1:02:37

wow it's unnatural i've yeah he was the guy that took what chuck invented chuck

1:02:44

had the distortion

1:02:45

he played a gibson 335 he played a birdland on his first record it was a it was

1:02:50

the prototype birdland

1:02:52

1955 i think um but he got a little bit more distorted than the typical country

1:02:57

you know

1:03:03

right but he took it to like voodoo child sounds yeah and then jimmy of course

1:03:16

just turned everything

1:03:18

i i was invited steve steve paul had a club in new york called the scene steve

1:03:25

paul scene everybody jammed

1:03:27

with johnny winter and edgar winter and rick derringer and jimmy mccarty and jimmy

1:03:32

hendrix and

1:03:33

and just every steve steve winwood we just go there and we just jam three or

1:03:39

four in the morning

1:03:39

and i was invited by steven green i hope i got all this right at a he was going

1:03:47

to start a club and

1:03:48

it was going to be the debut of a new band called um sly and the family stone

1:03:53

their first east coast

1:03:55

performance and the amboy dukes were in new york city recording journey to the

1:03:59

center of the mine

1:04:01

great song that's that right hand again

1:04:15

just this young kid playing all these

1:04:28

illegal notes and so we were invited down because there's going to be a slide

1:04:32

in the family stone

1:04:33

debut and we were on uh mainstream records i don't know how they invited us but

1:04:37

my journey

1:04:38

this turn of the mind solo was really quite outrageous for back then because it

1:04:43

was so melodic

1:04:44

but it was you know feeding back

1:04:53

so

1:05:02

so

1:05:02

so

1:05:02

just a great song for a bunch of kids so we're invited and we're in there and

1:05:26

they told me to bring my

1:05:27

birdland because i only got to play the birdland what's the difference well it's

1:05:32

hollow body it's

1:05:33

hand carved arch top made of north american spruce so it has a even without an

1:05:37

amplifier it's got the

1:05:48

if you don't want to indulge me like when when like robert johnson was playing

1:05:53

what was he playing

1:05:54

well he robert johnson started with an acoustic guitar and they played such a

1:05:59

nasty noisy

1:06:09

you know i tried to you can hear more string than electronics when i listened

1:06:17

to his music

1:06:18

you know because uh there's you know it's always a the legend of himself yeah

1:06:22

so primal but also um

1:06:26

really knew right there wasn't a lot of that music around before him well that's

1:06:31

what you know let's

1:06:33

talk i'll tell you why i'm here to help so you want emotional sincere beckoning

1:06:42

defiant

1:06:47

raw primal yeah you're gonna have to get it from a guy who was enslaved because

1:06:55

his spirit has been shackled

1:06:56

and his pain is unprecedented they were controlled by other men which is so

1:07:06

obscene

1:07:06

so wrong they knew it was wrong but they couldn't break free so when they sang

1:07:12

it was

1:07:14

the ultimate heartbreak anger fear yet craving to be free so you hear it in

1:07:25

their in their angst and

1:07:29

the pulse of their lyrics and the the dirt literally and figuratively just come

1:07:37

out of the cotton fields and

1:07:38

they going to play music of what they're feeling so it was so sincere so

1:07:45

definitively authoritative from

1:07:47

a painful position blues gospel and then the emancipation proclamation i give

1:07:57

you a little richard

1:07:58

you're talking about a defiant motherfucker bursts out of yeah explosion you

1:08:04

you can't manufacture that it

1:08:07

has to come from the guts it has to come from the horror of slavery to the

1:08:12

unprecedented explosion of

1:08:15

freedom and i'm gonna sing about your daughter long tall sally and i'm gonna i'm

1:08:20

gonna wear a

1:08:21

pompadour and i'm gonna put a mascara on it yeah you mother yeah beautiful and

1:08:28

chuck berry look at him

1:08:30

look at little richard my hero my god he was amazing long tall daddy is he

1:08:35

still alive is he still alive is

1:08:38

he still i i think so i think he's alive i think he's alive i want to be alive

1:08:42

i want him to be alive so

1:08:44

anyhow so that music touching oh 2020 man he died last year motherfucker so

1:08:49

that yeah i didn't hear a peep

1:08:51

out of that yeah he died last year may 9th wow

1:08:55

my favorite is tutti frutti used to be called tutti frutti good booty yeah they

1:09:04

made him change it

1:09:05

he made hit records out of you white man

1:09:08

so my point is you can't manufacture it you can't design that there's no

1:09:14

formula for that you just got to

1:09:16

come from your your soul and the you know it's it's the the horrible truth of

1:09:21

that kind of art

1:09:23

is that it comes from that pain and that you can't create anywhere else and it's

1:09:28

almost like

1:09:29

that's the only benefit of that pain is that it produces this spectacular art

1:09:33

and you had to let it

1:09:34

out some way yeah and the music did that and then you don't get that from a

1:09:38

good childhood right

1:09:41

you know i don't know i mean i don't think you get that you probably said get

1:09:45

something great you can

1:09:46

get something great but you won't get that great i thought it's a different

1:09:50

kind of great not that

1:09:51

authentic right not that raw um there's a believability factor to that black

1:09:57

influence i had a tour years

1:09:59

ago called black power because every night on stage since the 50s i've meant i've

1:10:04

celebrated and

1:10:05

thanked chuck berry about dealing a little richard and james brown and wilson

1:10:07

pickett the motown funk

1:10:08

brothers i mean there is no music that means anything that wasn't inspired by a

1:10:12

black guy

1:10:13

name me music that right that moves you that doesn't have a black history like

1:10:17

how much of

1:10:17

an impact did hendrix have on guitar players in this country when he came

1:10:21

around what was it like because

1:10:22

you were there and you said you you jammed with him but what you know i'm a

1:10:25

giant hendrix fan monster

1:10:27

when i was a kid i remember hearing voodoo child for the first time just

1:10:31

thinking like

1:10:33

how is this guy doing that like how is he making personally left handed upside

1:10:37

down

1:10:37

well geez there's so much i could tell you so yes when les paul electrified it

1:10:46

about for 1945 before that it was a background strumming instrument um folk

1:10:52

music and

1:10:53

background so it was 45 was when it changed 1945 is when les paul electrified

1:10:59

it and all of a sudden had this

1:11:01

this fiery sound this electric sound when did they first start recording like

1:11:06

when what was the first

1:11:08

me or him no anyone well what was the first ball also invented a lot of the

1:11:12

recording procedures

1:11:13

i mean the double tracking the multi-tracking the echo stuff because i think we

1:11:17

we've gone over this

1:11:18

before we tried to figure it out there's like a really really old recording of

1:11:21

someone singing it

1:11:22

sounds fucking terrible but um they're they're i mean i want to say it was the

1:11:28

1700s was that what

1:11:29

somewhere around that seriously i think so would they record on the papillus

1:11:33

reads 1860.

1:11:35

okay so 1860 was the first recording and so wasn't even a hundred years later

1:11:41

you have hendrix

1:11:42

or a hundred years later yeah yeah well musicians plus actually right we're a

1:11:47

we're a crazy bunch and

1:11:49

you want to talk about the ultimate application of critical thinking take take

1:11:54

the foundation of

1:11:56

electric guitar honky-tonk actually it's in the key of f but

1:12:19

well okay let's spend the night together now i need you that's all honky-tonk

1:12:27

that's all honky-tonk i saw the stones last week great what about mick jagger

1:12:36

what species what

1:12:38

species is that 78 years old dancing around singing that's all i need to know

1:12:43

people go people go how

1:12:44

long are you going to be doing this mc jagger will let us know he's a bad

1:12:50

motherfucker he's

1:12:50

fucking still so they put on an hour and a half show at the circuit of the americas

1:12:56

in austin so it's

1:12:57

this enormous racetrack and they have a huge amphitheater out there it's an

1:13:00

incredible place the circuit

1:13:01

of the americas and they have these fucking gigantic screens and when he was on

1:13:06

stage i swear to god i felt

1:13:08

like i was in a dream it didn't feel real to watch him to watch him dance

1:13:13

around and singing you know

1:13:15

they had to take brown sugar out of their playlist i can't see isn't that crazy

1:13:20

wrong that's so wrong

1:13:21

you're not allowed to celebrate black girls now right how crazy is that how

1:13:25

crazy is that the girl

1:13:27

who is the the inspiration for that song was hugely upset by it she was like it's

1:13:31

an amazing

1:13:32

so was aunt jemima when she was banned from the shelf i don't think aunt jemima's

1:13:35

a real person

1:13:36

but this is a great mentality man no one's protesting that song they just didn't

1:13:42

want to deal with it

1:13:43

it's like the the woke that kind of let me down because the stones were a defiant

1:13:47

bunch and i'd

1:13:48

like to think that they would retain that but i think they just don't want any

1:13:51

hate at this i mean

1:13:52

they're in the finish line right they're at the home stretch and but goddamn

1:13:56

the show was good when

1:13:57

they played kimmy shelter holy monster holy fuck it was incredible yeah keith

1:14:02

richards can

1:14:03

fucking still wail he's a he's a guy i spent two nights with keith richards at

1:14:09

studio 54 in new

1:14:10

york city in 1978 because i'm i'm militantly anti-substance abuse and he's

1:14:16

militantly pro-substance

1:14:17

we had such a good time together it was just funny because he was a hero of

1:14:23

mine i mean all my songs

1:14:25

came from chuck berry little richard bow diddley but remember the first stones

1:14:29

album the british

1:14:30

invasion stones album beatles kinks the yardbirds they all had bow diddley

1:14:36

chuck berry and motown songs

1:14:38

because that's what i was raised on so i was playing that music before the british

1:14:42

invasion

1:14:43

and so when the british guys did it and they did it such a good job because

1:14:46

they so revered those artists

1:14:48

and they they they they presented the chuck berry songs oh carol i mean just keith

1:14:57

richard

1:14:58

oh don't let's do your heart away

1:15:05

well i got to learn to dance if you tell me all night and day

1:15:13

well come into my machine so we can cruise on out

1:15:16

what keith richards did to the chuck berry songs was so respectful

1:15:23

but i don't know not more youthful you can't be more youthful than chuck berry

1:15:29

but something about

1:15:30

their just put a different spin on it yeah with with jaggers over exaggerated

1:15:35

bluesy vocal approach

1:15:37

and all those great players but that was so influential so take that influence

1:15:41

which was a bombardment

1:15:43

unprecedented and then take it all the way to jimi hendrix and then the next

1:15:48

chapter of guitar

1:15:49

sucker punching was eddie van halen so and i've got to jam with all these guys

1:15:56

i got to jump

1:15:57

you name the best guitarists i've jammed with all of them and to sit there you

1:16:02

don't sit there you

1:16:02

kind of dance there and you're paying attention to what they express and how

1:16:06

they how they unleash

1:16:08

these note volleys and and phrases and musical authority it it it settles in

1:16:15

your psyche it settles

1:16:16

in your soul and it's like an arsenal of licks that you can do in your own way

1:16:22

but you're not afraid

1:16:23

to do it the way they did it and if you have a certain touch of your own then

1:16:27

it comes off as

1:16:28

your signature style that's what's always so fascinating to me is that out of

1:16:32

all the notes

1:16:33

that have been played all the songs that have been written and sang and and

1:16:36

recorded that there's

1:16:37

still new ways to make a guitar joe you see this landscape yes it looks it

1:16:43

looks restrictive doesn't

1:16:46

it right it looks like it's only that long right it's only that many frets lewis

1:16:50

and clark wouldn't

1:16:52

know where to send sacajawea on my guitar neck i got a song in the new record

1:17:06

called driving blind that goes

1:17:10

and there i was minding my own business i'm kind of caught off guard

1:17:31

i wrote the book on sexual healing i swear to god well i think i found the

1:17:41

answer

1:17:42

to get me peace of mind don't flirt with disaster and don't get caught driving

1:17:53

blind

1:17:58

you know it's a got a groove it sounds like something you've heard before but

1:18:01

you never have

1:18:02

where does clapton fit into it for you monster monster i mean the whole i mean

1:18:19

i can do

1:18:28

that whole can you do leila all right i i don't know leila but but he's he's a

1:18:35

yeah the beast i mean billy gibbons the beast i mean now joe bonamassa a beast

1:18:43

um who's joe

1:18:43

joe perry joe bonamassa joe bonamassa is a super duper blues guitar player that

1:18:49

played albert hall and got

1:18:51

eric clapton to join him on stage look into joe bonamassa he's got he's on tour

1:18:56

all the time he's a

1:18:58

great guitar player um he's he's no hendrix and he's no billy gibbons even my

1:19:03

guitar player derek

1:19:05

st holmes for years one of the greatest guitar players in the world you won't

1:19:07

hear his name

1:19:08

mentioned but he's better than most so there's ricky medlock with leonard skinner

1:19:12

my guitar player in

1:19:14

the damn yankees tommy shaw these are unbelievable musical forces just genius

1:19:20

soulful grinding

1:19:22

authoritative guitar statements but you won't hear their name because there's

1:19:26

so many of them

1:19:28

out there there is so many and there's more coming every day this kid's

1:19:30

listening to this

1:19:31

right now just picking up a guitar for the first time yeah well learn bow diddley

1:19:35

and chuck berry if

1:19:36

you can't go

1:19:40

and if you can't go

1:19:51

and if you really want to go someplace try to do

1:20:01

what a great lick i love playing that lick great fucking lick that's a great

1:20:06

fucking look that's a

1:20:06

great that's in my workout playlist here i come again now baby like a dog in

1:20:11

heat you can tell us

1:20:12

me by the clamor motherfucker i'd like to tear up the street i've been smoking

1:20:16

for so long you know i'm here

1:20:18

to stay i got you in a stranglehold bitch get the fuck out of my way what a

1:20:22

love song it's a great

1:20:23

song the road i cruised is a bitch now you know you can't turn me around if a

1:20:27

house gets in my way

1:20:29

i'll burn the motherfucker down remember the night that you left me you put me

1:20:32

in my place got you in

1:20:33

a stranglehold motherfucker and i crushed your fucking face fuck you whoa it's

1:20:38

a love song um

1:20:40

you feel the love i don't but i get it it's about standing up for what you

1:20:45

believe here's a great story

1:20:46

you're not going to believe this so i signed with epic records 1974 tom worman

1:20:51

god bless him tony reality

1:20:53

the engineer derrick st holmes monster forest rob grange on bass unbelievable

1:20:58

cliff davies god rest his

1:21:00

soul on drums i got this rock and roll band from hell we're playing all over

1:21:04

the country 300 nights a year

1:21:06

cultivating this musical relationship with music lovers that love the dynamic

1:21:11

and the crescendos and the

1:21:12

experimental and the outrageous uncharted territory musical mayhem but mostly

1:21:17

the intensity of a

1:21:18

detroit piss and vinegar band which i define and so they signed me because they

1:21:24

liked the songs got

1:21:25

stranglehold and stormtroopin just great licks great song motor city madhouse

1:21:29

just all these great songs

1:21:31

derrick's got this ungodly voice so we get in the studio and we're setting up

1:21:36

equipment and they had heard

1:21:38

stranglehold but they called a meeting and i didn't know why they called a

1:21:41

meeting but the production

1:21:42

company the the engineer the management company the band uh the producer uh the

1:21:48

all the record company

1:21:49

a and r artist relations all had want to have a meeting i go all right maybe we

1:21:52

should have a meeting

1:21:53

before we start recording make sure it's like a team energy thing like a pre-fight

1:21:57

gathering right and uh

1:21:59

they get in bottom line the meeting was about they all voted that stranglehold

1:22:04

shouldn't be on the record

1:22:06

because it doesn't have a chorus oh my god could you imagine if you listen to

1:22:12

them i i'm in the room

1:22:14

and it's like an intervention oh my god and they're trying to tell me that i

1:22:19

gotta stop taking this drug

1:22:21

god and i'm listening to all their things it doesn't have a chorus so who gives

1:22:24

a shoe

1:22:25

sisters how to have a but nobody likes long guitar jams anymore i go oh my god

1:22:29

i do

1:22:29

how is that possible so i said this is 74 so i said are you guys done what year

1:22:35

was freeberg yeah

1:22:36

that that next year maybe how the did they get that so wrong

1:22:42

they're in new york city that's so dumb and they're monitoring hit records oh

1:22:47

god i hate that

1:22:48

shit that shit drives me crazy there was a moment where those lyrics to that

1:22:52

song stranglehold

1:22:53

came to fruition in a meeting where they all voted that it shouldn't be

1:22:58

recorded because it's a long

1:22:59

jam nobody likes long jams and there's no chorus and i said we play this every

1:23:04

night i've been

1:23:05

unleashing this song the people go nuts every night i'm going with the people's

1:23:11

vote not only that but

1:23:13

even if the people didn't like it it's my statement this i believe in this song

1:23:17

let's shut the

1:23:18

up let's record it if you hear it for one time how the can you not love it that

1:23:23

is such a classic

1:23:25

it's a monster it's such a classic the fact that they wanted to take that

1:23:29

author imagine if you

1:23:31

listen to them oh my god i mean between cat scratch fever and that like what is

1:23:37

your biggest hit

1:23:38

well i don't think there were any there was a hit i mean derrick wrote the song

1:23:44

hey baby on the first

1:23:45

record but i mean as far as like songs that are identified as a ted nugent song

1:23:50

throughout

1:23:51

the history of music they've run the triangle holes right up there right up

1:23:54

there at the top probably

1:23:55

between there's a song called fred bear yes amongst hunters that's a big one

1:24:10

see it's got that pound thing going that might be there i was back in the wild

1:24:16

again

1:24:20

and i felt right at home and i felt right at home where i belong

1:24:22

i had that feeling coming over me again it's just like it happened so many

1:24:35

times before so many times

1:24:43

beautiful songs

1:24:50

i gotta tell you joe i got a call this morning

1:24:52

when that song happened after fred died

1:24:56

i've always been surrounded by the best musicians on the planet they're

1:25:01

dedicated to their craft they

1:25:02

have a work ethic they're smart asses they're adventurous they're critical

1:25:06

thinkers they're gifted

1:25:10

michael lutes on bass the author of smoking in the boys room for brownsville

1:25:13

station

1:25:14

gunner ross a drummer from detroit of just super thunder

1:25:21

and when i played that song i cried through the whole thing i was completely

1:25:24

out of control

1:25:25

because fred had died and my mom had died and that that pattern had a life of

1:25:33

its own i didn't

1:25:34

play it i facilitated it but michael and gunner immediately grasped my emotion

1:25:41

for fred

1:25:42

and what the song meant and what you hear on the the song that the navy seals

1:25:49

play when they come home

1:25:50

with flag draped coffins and people bury their children or have an anniversary

1:25:55

the song like every

1:25:57

day i get people testifying what the song fred bear means to them just so

1:26:02

emotional so powerful

1:26:05

well this morning gunner ross died my drummer on fred bear 67 years old and he

1:26:12

died this morning and that

1:26:16

moment when he embraced my pain and love for fred the pain of the loss just a

1:26:26

smart ass detroit drummer

1:26:29

monster but my people they they they they own the spirit of every song that we

1:26:36

play they become one

1:26:38

with it and gunner did that day and it was take one i played it for him and

1:26:44

then we pushed the record

1:26:46

button at pearl sound in canton michigan and gunner and michael

1:26:55

loved fred they didn't know who fred was but they knew what it meant to me and

1:27:00

they they put their

1:27:01

heart and soul into that performance and gunner just died this morning at 67.

1:27:06

will you tell everybody

1:27:08

who fred bear was because there's a lot of people listening to this that don't

1:27:10

have any idea who that

1:27:11

guy is fred bear is the essence of american entrepreneurial man in the arena in

1:27:19

the swirling dust of

1:27:21

the industrial revolution born in pennsylvania in 1906 or thereabouts and uh

1:27:28

was a hunter farmer trapper

1:27:30

you know lived on the land and he moved to detroit during the industrial

1:27:36

revolution to

1:27:37

be a wood carver for the four four moco four moco ford motor company making

1:27:42

cabinets for the radios

1:27:44

and the dashboards and the woodies the vehicles and uh he had become so proficient

1:27:51

with the 30-30

1:27:53

that he was looking for more of a challenge if he saw a deer with his 30-30 he'd

1:27:56

kill it

1:27:57

he learned stealth you give within 100 yards up with an open sight rifle you

1:28:00

should be able to kill it

1:28:01

and he that's great that's how you get venison but he's looking for something

1:28:05

else

1:28:06

so he started making his own bows in the 1920s and a couple buddies uh nels grumley

1:28:14

i can't believe i

1:28:15

remember all this shit nell that was his name nels grumley was his boyer it

1:28:21

takes a real art

1:28:22

craftsmanship to make us a bow from a stave and pick the right grain and the

1:28:28

right hickory or the you

1:28:30

or the osage orange and pick the right tree and know that that core is going to

1:28:37

make a good bow

1:28:38

and then know what the the resistance and the flexibility of those wood limbs

1:28:44

will produce

1:28:44

uh what they call cast how it would cast an arrow it's quite an art form and so

1:28:52

fred bear and nels

1:28:53

grumley had a little shop in detroit and when they weren't making cabinets for

1:28:57

their business the

1:28:59

foamoco and the the radio industry he was making his own bows he and nels and

1:29:05

it was catching on a

1:29:07

little bit but then up in oroville california i think in 1908 maybe they found

1:29:13

an indian cowering in a

1:29:15

corral and they determined that this was from the yanni y-a-n-i the yanni indian

1:29:22

tribe and back then

1:29:23

if you killed one of them you get 25 bucks what year was this yeah northern california

1:29:30

1908 maybe

1:29:34

you could get 25 dollars if you kill an indian yeah 1908 yeah jesus jesus maybe

1:29:40

they should have wrote

1:29:42

some blue songs holy shit so anyhow so instead of killing this guy they

1:29:46

determined his name was ishi

1:29:49

and they wanted to study him the last he's the last survivor of the yanni tribe

1:29:54

northern california

1:29:56

oroville just heard a story in oroville california this morning on the radio

1:29:59

and i said to rocco and

1:30:01

shimane i go that's where they found ishi um so this guy ishi his whole life

1:30:05

was based on the bow and

1:30:08

arrow getting close to game taking a freezing river bath before the hunt to

1:30:15

deserve an encounter with

1:30:18

the beast that would provide life food clothing shelter tools medicine weapons

1:30:23

spirit deep into the

1:30:25

spiritual realm and so the the sheriff department put him in a jail and they

1:30:31

said let's call some

1:30:32

anthropologists or one of these scientist guys and so they called a guy named

1:30:37

saxton pope

1:30:38

um pope and young yeah the saxton pope so saxton pope came down and tried to

1:30:45

figure out what tribe and

1:30:46

and language and started communicating with ishi and then he called his buddy

1:30:51

art young who was also a

1:30:53

professor i believe i might i'm probably getting some of the details a little

1:30:57

misconstrued here but this

1:30:59

is the proceedings that took place and so they were so fascinated they took ishi

1:31:04

out into his native lands

1:31:06

in northern california and he showed them how their life pivoted on effective

1:31:13

bow hunting and so saxton

1:31:16

and pope became fascinated how could you not as their world was developing

1:31:21

better ballistics for longer

1:31:23

range killing um pope and young went yeah this is fascinating trying to get

1:31:29

close to that columbia

1:31:30

blacktail with a sharp stick i gotta try that because there was already this

1:31:34

this maniac movement of

1:31:37

sophistication so they called it away from the land and to be more certified

1:31:42

and more educated and have

1:31:44

other people kill your for you um but they discovered there was something

1:31:48

powerful about ishi well ishi

1:31:50

eventually died from white man's germs as so many did but saxon pope became

1:31:59

dedicated to the bow hunting

1:32:01

lifestyle and they went on to go bow hunting in yosemite and yellowstone went

1:32:07

to africa and hunted and

1:32:09

filmed it all and so meanwhile fred bear and howard hill in california and ben

1:32:14

pearson down in arkansas

1:32:16

were fancying bow hunting as a little sideline fun thing well back then the

1:32:25

only vehicle of promotion

1:32:27

for any given entity or endeavor were newsreels and they don't go to the

1:32:32

theater and play a newsreel

1:32:34

on a trip to the arctic in a boat or how to build a canoe well saxon pope and

1:32:39

art young created newsreels

1:32:42

about this fascinating rediscovery of the mystical flight of the arrow and how

1:32:47

to kill game with it

1:32:48

real primitive real port orford cedar shafts that they'd have to heat up to

1:32:54

straighten out by the eye

1:32:55

how to cut uh turkey feathers to fletch with a helical to steer the air this is

1:33:01

all what they

1:33:02

use it for broadheads back then they made their own out of just raw stock steel

1:33:08

eventually fred bear

1:33:10

made his own the razor head which became most popular and in michigan there was

1:33:13

one called the

1:33:14

ma3 and the ma2 and the bodkin all of which i still own um so fred bear saw

1:33:20

that there was a newsreel

1:33:22

coming to the detroit theater in downtown detroit this is 30s and this is

1:33:28

fascinating it is see i got this

1:33:31

right from fred wow wow wallow bask in the glow and so fred said well these

1:33:40

guys got a newsreel hunting

1:33:42

with the bow and arrow let's go check this out so can you watch that anywhere i

1:33:47

think so hunting with

1:33:49

the bow and arrow yes saxton pope art young what year 30s 1930s jamie's gonna

1:33:55

find it and uh and the book

1:33:57

they wrote hunting with the bow and arrow they both wrote that anyhow so i'm

1:34:01

not even born yet

1:34:02

les paul hasn't even electrified the guitar yet but my dad came back from world

1:34:07

war ii and fred bear

1:34:09

already had enough influence in michigan that my dad became a bow hunter and i

1:34:14

still have his bow from

1:34:16

1945. so fred bear from working for the ford motor company and and then

1:34:22

starting becoming a bow hunter

1:34:24

had influenced so many people that young men in that area were taking up bow

1:34:28

hunting for the first time

1:34:30

yes wow my dad was one and there was was bow hunting anything was was anybody

1:34:36

bow hunting in the

1:34:37

country other than that or was it extremely rare uh let me see if i remember

1:34:42

the name roy case how do i

1:34:44

remember these names roy case in wisconsin fred barron michigan george nichols

1:34:50

in michigan

1:34:51

owner of jackson archery who fred contracted to build fred's arrows because fred

1:34:56

was experimenting

1:34:57

with the lamination invention of laminating thin sheets of fiberglass to thin

1:35:05

sheets of woods

1:35:06

to build up that beautiful recurve you've seen artwork yeah and it increased

1:35:12

the cast that's how they

1:35:14

identified the delivery of an arrow it was the cast how well a bow of certain

1:35:21

wood would cast an arrow

1:35:23

did they weigh their arrows back then they did typically 600 grain port orford

1:35:28

cedar with 140 grain

1:35:30

or even heavier bodkins i think were 180 grains ma2s ma3s were 150s um and how'd

1:35:37

they keep their arrows

1:35:39

within that range especially with the wood i would imagine it varies quite

1:35:43

select that's why they use

1:35:45

port orford cedar because it was controllable and it had a grain conducive to

1:35:50

straightness even though

1:35:53

effort had to be applied to perfectly straighten them though that never perfect

1:35:58

so anyhow so fred now

1:35:59

he's so enamored he saw the pope and young video he goes holy to hell with fomoco

1:36:05

man let's

1:36:06

build bows and arrows so he moved from detroit to grayling michigan up in the

1:36:10

middle of the state up

1:36:11

in the north country where the only deer were there were no deer south of claire

1:36:15

all the deer were north

1:36:17

because after they cut down every tree in michigan except for the hartwick pines

1:36:21

um land of the

1:36:24

kirtland's warbler i got all this i register all this information um so after

1:36:31

the denuding of the

1:36:32

michigan forest i mean white pines as big around as this room joe you see their

1:36:39

stumps today

1:36:42

and these guys cut the entire state down with hand saws but shockingly not so

1:36:49

much if you know a

1:36:49

little bit about botany what does that do lets the sunlight hit the ground and

1:36:55

the habitat exploded

1:36:57

to such supportability such sustainability for wildlife that animals can only

1:37:02

use what they can reach

1:37:04

and now this explosion of low growth provided sanctuary shelter thermal cover

1:37:11

during the severe michigan

1:37:12

winters and escape and so the deer herd exploded in the 1950s so fred's up

1:37:21

there so now i'm born in 48

1:37:23

my dad's already a bow hunter and every kid in detroit every kid in america was

1:37:29

fascinated with a bow and

1:37:30

arrow i live right next to the rouge river i was in detroit but right next to

1:37:33

the rouge river all in

1:37:34

industry came by waterways for transportation of goods and so i even i didn't

1:37:41

know who fred bear was

1:37:42

i just knew that my dad would shoot his bow and every kid got a little kid's

1:37:46

bow and i probably shot

1:37:47

stuffed animals with you know suction cup arrows in the living room by the time

1:37:51

i was two and according

1:37:53

to my parents i was a high energy maniac borderline dangerous but i always shot

1:37:58

my bow and arrow so by

1:37:59

time i'm four or five we're going north every year in the ford country squire

1:38:04

station wagon with our bows

1:38:06

and arrows and we'd stop in this town called grayling and go to this little cinder

1:38:11

block

1:38:12

shack that said bear archery over the front i still didn't know what was going

1:38:15

on i just knew that i

1:38:16

loved bows and arrows but in this little shack in grayling michigan were lots

1:38:20

of bows and arrows and

1:38:21

this tall lanky guy named fred bear who my dad would with we'd go to the grayling

1:38:25

restaurant have chocolate

1:38:27

milk and cherry pie and by the time i was seven or eight it registered holy

1:38:32

this is the guy in the

1:38:34

cover of true magazine with a polar bear this is a guy on american sportsmen

1:38:39

eventually with kurt gaudy

1:38:41

shooting moose and caribou and hunting with the maharajji and shooting chittle

1:38:46

deer and and and nil

1:38:48

guy on the the the estate of the indian ruler and i'm fascinated so now this is

1:38:57

my chuck berry of bow

1:38:58

hunting i was already gung-ho guitar gung-ho bows and arrows we all got daisy

1:39:02

red rider bb guns we all

1:39:04

made our own slingshots i started out with bows and arrows i made myself out of

1:39:08

reeds and saplings along

1:39:10

the rouge river so just a natural inclination projectiles they've always

1:39:15

fascinated mankind

1:39:16

how can you control the projectile how good of a marksman can you be i was put

1:39:20

in charge of sparrow

1:39:21

control with my daisy red rider bb gun in my garage because the sparrows were

1:39:25

shitting on the

1:39:26

there's the country squire station wagon window so i would kill the sparrows in

1:39:30

the garage so i was deep

1:39:32

into shooting and so i met this fred bear guy and eventually i realized that's

1:39:35

fred fucking bear

1:39:37

well he was funny kind big tall six foot six something lanky and just a natural

1:39:44

killer

1:39:45

it's a natural stealthy sneaky bow hunter real slow talking not to be confused

1:39:54

with me

1:39:55

and real easy going which makes for a great bow hunter which john what's john's

1:39:59

name that you

1:40:00

dudley yes that's a perfect example of a dangerous bow hunter because old john

1:40:05

is uh

1:40:06

just so uh naturally um relaxed right am i right he's very relaxed yeah i'm not

1:40:14

so i have to turn the

1:40:16

corner before i go boy so anyhow so fred bear invited me into his life and from

1:40:22

this little shack my dad

1:40:23

was transferred every year i couldn't wait to stop and greatly meet old fred

1:40:28

every year we'd stop there

1:40:29

and most years he was there for the opening october 1st michigan bow season

1:40:33

which is why michigan is

1:40:35

the number one bow hunting state in america to this day because of fred bear's

1:40:39

influence so i fell in love

1:40:40

with fred bear as a mentor as a hero and he welcomed me into his life wholeheartedly

1:40:45

even though he told

1:40:46

me that his buddies i don't know about this rock and roll guy sex drugs and

1:40:49

rock and roll i don't

1:40:50

know if you want to associate with nugent you're a long-haired fellow long-haired

1:40:54

hippie looking dirt

1:40:55

dog um but his buddies all fred told me he says no my buddy said no no nugent i

1:41:01

heard him on the radio

1:41:02

all he does is promote clean and sober all he does is promote the mystical

1:41:06

flight of the arrow and being

1:41:07

one with your projectile management and this guy's high energy and is getting

1:41:12

bow hunting promotion to

1:41:14

people who will never hear of you and fred bear actually said every sporting

1:41:19

event he went to

1:41:21

everybody under 40 always asked him do you know ted nugent because i'd shoot my

1:41:25

bow on stage every

1:41:26

concert with the amboy dukes i'd always promote hunting every interview is

1:41:29

supposed to be about a

1:41:30

new record i'd promote my weekend with my mom and dad hunting with a bow and

1:41:34

arrow so i was constantly

1:41:35

countering the animal rights lie by promoting conservation especially the

1:41:42

discipline of archery

1:41:44

and so fred embraced me long story short and i can keep you here for 100 days

1:41:49

in 1987

1:41:52

i did my annual hunt with fred i'd go over every year up to a place called grouse

1:41:57

haven up in rose

1:41:58

city michigan the gateway to the north country and we'd be around the campfire

1:42:03

and around the fireplace with

1:42:05

um just all the old guys bob munger who we went to africa with so many times

1:42:12

and all his buddies

1:42:13

and i just sit around the campfire just sponging the stories from these guys

1:42:18

because they were pioneers

1:42:20

of the new bow hunting challenge versus what roy weatherby was developing you

1:42:25

kill a deer four

1:42:26

or five six hundred thousand yards which is a discipline unto itself that's

1:42:29

marksmanship

1:42:31

if you dedicate yourself but bow hunters were looking for something more

1:42:35

challenging more difficult and more

1:42:38

spiritual in understanding your relationship with the animal that the native

1:42:43

americans always proclaimed

1:42:44

rightly so that if you dedicate yourself to conscientious stealth reasoning

1:42:51

predator that the great spirit will

1:42:54

provide a shot at the game which means if you dedicate yourself you can earn

1:42:59

that shot

1:43:00

powerful lesson in the industrial explosion to go back to a primal

1:43:07

scream yeah so then in in in april of 88 after our last hunt in 87 and fred i

1:43:17

didn't even go hunting i just

1:43:18

stayed with fred because he was on an oxygen tank he carried it around i just

1:43:22

hung out with fred very

1:43:24

emotional because he was so powerful in all of our lives huge force and he told

1:43:31

me to keep doing what i do

1:43:33

promoting hunting in a rock and roll way because it got the word out to people

1:43:37

who would never hear

1:43:39

it at the shot show right um and then that next april he died and it was a a

1:43:47

force wave

1:43:49

of heartbreak just he meant so much to so many people and so one morning i was

1:43:57

going out to do

1:43:58

my chores like i do every morning but instead i stopped and i came in the house

1:44:04

and that song

1:44:05

happened wow wow and i called my guys gunner ross who died today and i said

1:44:16

mike get a studio

1:44:18

something's happening and my guys know how serious i am he goes it's not like

1:44:22

he's no what's happening

1:44:23

man he said okay hang on i'll get a studio so we got in a studio and recorded

1:44:27

that song and it's it's

1:44:31

so powerful in people's lives did you find that uh pope and young video this is

1:44:39

the best i could find

1:44:40

i don't let's see it 1926 grizzly how'd you do that wow 1926 you gotta be

1:44:48

kidding me sound on it but

1:44:50

watch him there he is look at his hat at saxton pope right there i think a

1:44:54

gentleman's hat look at the

1:44:56

quiver tucked under his armpit by the way what kind of balls do you have to

1:45:01

hunt a bear with a

1:45:02

recurve in the 1920s and look at those bears getting up to try to find out what

1:45:07

the hell he is watch him

1:45:11

he missed oh no the bear's like we're getting the out of here there he got him

1:45:18

in the second arrow wow

1:45:20

look how long the arrows are yeah you got to have a titan you got to have t-rex

1:45:26

scrotum to take that

1:45:28

on yeah i mean look at the boots look at the clothes 1920s is that awesome

1:45:32

there's a big close-up on the

1:45:34

area that's crazy that was even before me joe this is wild that they were

1:45:38

interested in doing that

1:45:40

they're interested in bow hunting look at the arrow wow that is wild

1:45:46

that's wild yep 1926 see if you can find any fred bear footage there's a lot of

1:45:55

a lot of that on there

1:45:56

there's a lot of that on there see if you can find uh fred bear hunting moose i've

1:46:00

seen that video

1:46:01

so i've been in the i i got to play bass for chuck berry and bo diddley i got

1:46:07

to bow hunt with fred

1:46:08

bear that's pretty awesome i went around the indie track in a roush mustang

1:46:13

with parnelli jones at the

1:46:14

wheel i was trained on off-road racing by mickey thompson and roger mirrors

1:46:18

there he is and i have an

1:46:19

iron man there's fred i like how he's putting stuff on his face he's camouflaging

1:46:24

his face with his

1:46:24

flannel shirt on he's got sticks in his hat the the old school hat do you ever

1:46:30

hunt with a hat like

1:46:32

that i have not i have put seems like i have put vegetation in my hat emulating

1:46:37

old fred so he's

1:46:38

got a it seems like he's got a camo uh that's a stag huh or a caribou he's uh

1:46:43

it seems like he's got

1:46:44

a um uh some kind of camo on right no that's just a pendleton that's just a

1:46:49

pendleton plaid shirt which

1:46:51

is but he put something on over the plaid shirt when we started that is just a

1:46:56

plaid shirt when we

1:46:57

started there was no camo you wore military cam and then eventually mossy oak

1:47:02

now i i wear mossy

1:47:03

oak and there's all kinds of camo out were they the first guys to come out with

1:47:06

camo for um i think uh

1:47:08

grumley uh uh is that not camo he's wearing because look at his pants pants

1:47:13

looks like uh

1:47:14

woodland camo yeah there's some camo so he had some kind of camo on back then

1:47:19

this is probably in the 50s yeah and look at this he's got a quiver mounted to

1:47:24

the side of his bow

1:47:25

too was that one of the first ones oh he invented that that's his bear archery

1:47:28

is that from him yeah

1:47:30

that's he started yeah wow let me let me emphasize this to all your listeners

1:47:36

all of joe rogan's listeners

1:47:39

please take heed if you want to find the beast of your spirit and when i say

1:47:47

beast i mean the best of

1:47:50

the best of the best of you get a bow and arrow find a bow that is comfortable

1:47:56

and graceful

1:47:58

even if it's in your living room at 10 feet with the proper backstop and i've

1:48:05

trained my children

1:48:06

do not underestimate the power of spiritual growth available just by getting mr

1:48:16

left hand

1:48:17

to be one with mr right hand as guided by the oneness of mr brain and mr

1:48:23

eyeball and see if you can put

1:48:26

the arrow of your life in the spot of your desires i swear to god joe i don't

1:48:37

care if you're a copper

1:48:38

a teacher or a butcher a mechanic or a plumber or a carpenter or a radio dude i

1:48:43

don't care what you do in

1:48:45

life whatever point you're at today within a few days of really discovering

1:48:53

your arrow control

1:48:55

whatever you pursue you will be better at incrementally as you become one with

1:49:03

the mystical flight

1:49:04

of your arrow especially young people i think it's uh it's an amazing form of

1:49:10

meditation because it's so

1:49:11

difficult to fit i can't find a better one yeah it's so difficult to do that

1:49:16

and you don't have to even

1:49:17

hunt just shoot at a target yes find a bullseye find the bullseye of your life

1:49:22

it really is but you

1:49:24

should hunt you should hunt it's so difficult and people don't realize how

1:49:28

difficult it is to have

1:49:29

perfect form in archery and how to execute a perfect shot especially in the

1:49:32

field under hunting conditions

1:49:34

because form goes to shit it's not the olympic range but you have to discover

1:49:39

how you can control

1:49:40

manipulate manage that form in an awkward field position so that from the waist

1:49:48

to the face from

1:49:49

your waist to the face you can control your form no matter how awkward the

1:49:54

position may be and that's

1:49:56

the trick to consistent accuracy with a bow and arrow and it doesn't matter

1:49:59

whether it's a compound or a

1:50:00

longboard or an old recurve bow to to become consistently efficient with an old-fashioned

1:50:08

long or recurve bow is one of the most joyous fulfilling gratifying

1:50:15

accomplishments in life because

1:50:17

it's a bitch yeah it's a lot harder right with a recurve or a long bow any kind

1:50:22

of traditional archery bow

1:50:24

a lot harder to be more accurate but it's also there's something about the

1:50:27

satisfaction of being

1:50:29

accurate that's even more accentuated right sure it is accentuated no doubt and

1:50:33

i'm not dismissing

1:50:34

i shoot a compound 99 of the time i shoot a matthews that's lightweight 50

1:50:39

pounds it's graceful

1:50:41

it feels like a recurve because i'm at full draw under uh you know graceful

1:50:46

conditions and i know that

1:50:49

cameron and you shoot heavy bows because you're strong but archery has to be

1:50:54

graceful you have to

1:50:56

be able you can't it's not weight lifting it's stealth and grace you need to

1:51:02

find a bow that is easy to

1:51:04

draw easy to come to full draw and make sure that your full draw stops at your

1:51:08

face not back here

1:51:10

if it's too long of a draw especially the compound because it has a let off and

1:51:14

if it's let off too far

1:51:16

back you'll never have form because it's supposed to be hand eye coordination

1:51:19

and if you're anchoring

1:51:20

back here your eyes out of the equation now so in in texas there's a lot of

1:51:25

great archery shops all

1:51:27

across america there's a great archery country right here in austin what's the

1:51:31

name of it archery country

1:51:32

archery country it's it's a great shop a really great shop um who was the matthews

1:51:36

was the first to

1:51:37

come up with a compound right no um was it no uh uh allen the allen compound

1:51:43

and uh from allen archery

1:51:45

like the guys who make uh still stuff today i i don't know um allen and my

1:51:50

first one was uh geez

1:51:52

why can't i remember uh uh i bought it in 1977. anyhow i thought it was matthews

1:51:59

that had the patent no

1:52:01

there it is the compound bow was developed in 1966 by wilbur allen in northern

1:52:06

kansas i just got that

1:52:08

kansas city missouri a u.s patent was granted in 1969 the compound bows become

1:52:13

increasingly popular

1:52:14

what is that wikipedia get the fuck out of here wikipedia wow look at that look

1:52:18

at his first bow

1:52:19

look at that that's wild yeah look at that photo that thing's crazy looking

1:52:24

yeah that's just engineering

1:52:27

ingenuity you know that fella got no pussy look at him yeah just just sitting

1:52:32

around shooting bows and

1:52:33

arrows all day obsessed there they are look at them beautiful isn't it amazing

1:52:39

how things come out of

1:52:40

obsession like just look at that guy's face while he's holding that bow go back

1:52:43

to that picture

1:52:44

that guy had probably been working on that thing it probably been in his head

1:52:48

for years yeah look how he

1:52:50

made it out of wood but what what uh matt mcpherson of matthews has done is he's

1:52:55

taken engineering to a

1:52:56

mad scientist level where the the uh the the finite measurements of the wheels

1:53:05

and the the the cams

1:53:07

they're so efficient they are so capable now it's just incredible that anybody

1:53:12

figured this out that

1:53:13

this guy figured this out in 1966 when you look at that bow right there that he's

1:53:18

got in his hand

1:53:19

like look how crazy that contraption is with all those strings and we all hated

1:53:23

it when they first came

1:53:25

out we all went what is that's not a bow and everybody shot it with fingers and

1:53:29

shot an instinct you shot

1:53:31

instinctive with a all up until just 12 years ago yeah 12 years ago wow and so

1:53:37

you brought the bow the

1:53:39

arrow up to your eye like eyesight not necessarily i did have it i used three

1:53:43

fingers under what they

1:53:45

call the apache draw so it was closer to my eye than it was to my corner of my

1:53:49

mouth like i started i used

1:53:50

the split finger when i started and you see a gap when you do it that way can't

1:53:54

the bow like fred bear

1:53:55

and everybody did they can to the side to open up that path to the target and

1:54:00

you see the arrow under

1:54:01

you and you know that it's going to be rising to come to your eye level just

1:54:05

like a bullet rises to the

1:54:07

scope um and you learned what those gaps are different yardages and i got to

1:54:11

tell you when i was a kid i wish i could shoot

1:54:14

today like i did when i was a kid i couldn't miss as i i don't care if it was a

1:54:20

flying bird or a running

1:54:22

squirrel i just got natural no baggage no psychological considerations like the

1:54:28

samurai warrior said to tom

1:54:30

cruise when he couldn't quite master the samurai he went too many minds you can't

1:54:36

think about some

1:54:38

things you don't think about a 90 yard pass i'm not a football fan but you have

1:54:44

to instinctively know

1:54:46

what this thrust is to that guy's running and when it will coincide with the

1:54:50

receiver it's a thing with

1:54:51

training i mean that that is the number one thing about martial arts is that

1:54:55

you execute based on your

1:54:56

training yeah you don't even think about it not just muscle memory but spirit

1:55:01

right yeah he's got

1:55:03

it that's i use the term samurai a lot and i use the term out of body a lot i

1:55:09

think bo i think archery

1:55:10

is a martial art no question about it yeah it really is and i think people don't

1:55:14

talk about is a martial

1:55:16

the way you do it i really i really do believe that i don't i don't write songs

1:55:22

i don't

1:55:24

contemplate patterns i pick up the guitar and things happen based on where i am

1:55:29

um emotionally um

1:55:32

spiritually cocky defiantly easy going not easy going um and those patterns the

1:55:41

new record i can't

1:55:42

rave enough about detroit muscle the songs there's an instrumental it's called

1:55:48

winter spring summer fall

1:55:51

and i'm i'm notorious for instrumentals that have beautiful melodies that that

1:55:56

grow like a song

1:55:58

called earth tone goes

1:56:10

it's just beautiful

1:56:24

i recognize that from the spirit of the wild tv show

1:56:26

and the new album has one called winter spring summer fall and just listen to

1:56:33

this pattern one day i

1:56:34

got up like i do every day and i went

1:56:45

so

1:56:47

so

1:56:53

so

1:56:57

so

1:57:08

so

1:57:10

so

1:57:18

it's where you are and if you can express sonically and maleviously and

1:57:44

make a statement and i i hunt every day i do chores out every day i plant trees

1:57:51

or i fill feeders or i

1:57:52

work on fences so i have dirt in my hands all the time and when i sit down i

1:57:58

didn't i didn't sit

1:57:59

down and go hey a neat title for a song would be winter spring summer fall what

1:58:03

would that sound like

1:58:04

no i just play and after i played it i realized that i'm playing my life in a

1:58:11

year winter spring summer fall

1:58:14

what do i do in the winter i'm continuing to harvest because come spring there's

1:58:19

going to be regrowth and

1:58:20

planting summer ideal conditions for the growth of that spring planting fall

1:58:25

harvest

1:58:28

so if ever there was an organic musical consciousness it's me can i ask you

1:58:36

again

1:58:36

about um what why did you switch from uh using uh instinctive with fingers to

1:58:42

using a release and a

1:58:44

sight old man's eyeballs i started missing yeah my buddy brian shootback just a

1:58:51

guru of archery

1:58:53

runs a little it's actually quite a sporting goods store in jackson michigan

1:58:57

shootback sporting goods

1:58:59

people come from hundreds of miles to let brian and his team set up their bows

1:59:04

because they're

1:59:05

dedicated archery craftsmen engineers because on a compound bow it really is

1:59:13

uh a mechanical beast and everything has to be timed really specifically the

1:59:20

wheels the cams the the

1:59:22

tiller between the limbs and the string the way the cables connect where the

1:59:27

arrow comes out where

1:59:28

the rest allows the air to come out straight um and so brian shootback i would

1:59:33

call him and say i missed

1:59:36

a buck this morning again he goes let me set you up a bow with a peep sight i

1:59:41

can't do that let

1:59:43

i'm setting you one up just use it so he set it up and a peep sight but no no

1:59:50

no housing no no

1:59:51

no actually it had a peep and a pin i had one pin and it had a loop and a

1:59:55

release

1:59:55

the whole moderns you'd never use a loop before then so you'd been hunting for

2:00:01

how long without a d loop

2:00:04

50 years 50 years 50 years how apprehensive were you to try to switch over and

2:00:10

change um

2:00:11

i respect brian and i was really frustrated slash angry at making bad shots not

2:00:20

all the time but

2:00:22

enough to piss me off because to get a close range encounter on a michigan whitetail

2:00:26

is one of the most

2:00:27

impossible tasks under the sun these animals are born looking for guitar

2:00:31

players and trees

2:00:32

they're twitchy they're so white tails are so smart especially the michigan

2:00:38

ones because they've been

2:00:39

hunting since they were born anyhow um so i respected brian's recommendation

2:00:44

but it was difficult for me

2:00:46

because instead of the smoothness of looking at my target and coming up muscle

2:00:51

memory let go now

2:00:53

i'd have to find the pin in the peep and hang on for a second which is really

2:00:59

uh uh contrary to my

2:01:02

shooting system um but within a couple days i stuck with it and boy i was zapping

2:01:08

them right in there

2:01:09

because once that pin and that peep is there if you can control mr right hand

2:01:13

and mr trigger finger

2:01:15

like a rifle shot right um breathing sight acquisition pin in the peep on the

2:01:22

spot okay

2:01:23

do it did you ever fuck around with hinges did you ever use like back tension

2:01:30

releases or anything i

2:01:31

have yeah couldn't do it why couldn't you do it i i i'm here to admit joe rogan

2:01:36

live on the joe

2:01:37

rogan podcast experience i ted newton have target panic a lot of people do but

2:01:43

i have it but i've

2:01:44

managed it with that right hand thing mr right hand when i draw down on a

2:01:49

target or a deer i'm thinking

2:01:51

first of all i have an orange square on every target i have a day glow orange

2:01:56

tape on all my 3d targets

2:01:58

i shoot out to 60 yards and i have my pins set accordingly and i as i draw it

2:02:04

down i have an orange

2:02:06

tape on my bow so it reminds me orange tape okay this we're just going for the

2:02:10

orange tape it's not a buck

2:02:12

it's not a target it's not a bullseye okay orange tape he missed a right hand

2:02:16

remember it's all about

2:02:17

the orange tape i've actually cured people not cured but help them manage

2:02:22

target panic which means you

2:02:25

freeze off target in desperation you fling yeah it's it's a curse most olympic

2:02:30

guys have had most archers

2:02:31

have get it at one point or another and so when i shoot now i shoot various matthews

2:02:38

bows and they're

2:02:39

lightweight 50 pounds and i shoot mostly shoot two blade broadheads and i go

2:02:43

orange tape on bow okay

2:02:45

or that's right just orange tape just just we're going for the orange tape it's

2:02:49

not that big of a

2:02:50

deal all right mr right hand not yet not yet not yet not yet not yet okay and i

2:02:57

zap the out of it's

2:02:59

just awesome but i had to have a a diversion reference to orange tape but i

2:03:05

swear to god joe

2:03:07

when i shoot when i shot at buck two days ago a real buck a live buck i saw the

2:03:12

orange tape on his crease

2:03:14

now just did you have any target panic when you were using fingers and you're

2:03:20

shooting instinctive it

2:03:22

just became down to the trigger so beautiful have you ever paid attention to do

2:03:25

you know joel turner

2:03:27

the shot iq system i don't i know there i know this you know who he is he's uh

2:03:31

he's got a really good

2:03:33

website and he used to be i think he still does uh it works with uh swat teams

2:03:39

and he trains people in the

2:03:40

the difference between open loop and closed loop thinking and that uh in open

2:03:45

loop thinking

2:03:46

um i can always fuck these two up i believe open loop is like swinging a

2:03:52

baseball bat like uh the the

2:03:54

ball comes and you swing and at no point in time can you stop it like you're

2:03:58

just swinging right you're

2:03:59

not going to check it but a closed loop is like you're in complete control of

2:04:04

every movement through

2:04:05

the entire process and you're thinking yourself through it and what he does is

2:04:09

he has like a mantra

2:04:10

that he talks you through and the idea is to keep your mind conscious and to

2:04:14

keep yourself from

2:04:15

being just working on reflexes just like hitting anxiety and then punching the

2:04:19

trigger and instead

2:04:21

of doing that you work through your shot process and you achieve a surprise

2:04:25

shot and one of the ways

2:04:26

you do that is by keeping your mind on a mantra and talking and i think his you

2:04:33

know his not yet mr

2:04:34

right hand yeah yeah and then he talks you through this the thing that he does

2:04:40

the way he says it um

2:04:42

it works yeah i think his is drawback and aim get it done watch it to keep it

2:04:50

and the idea of watch

2:04:51

it to keep it is like follow that arrow like watch become you know like remy

2:04:55

warren says be the arrow

2:04:57

stay on your form until the arrow hits yeah and this idea of keeping that that

2:05:03

conversation constantly

2:05:04

going in your mind keeps your mind on conscious thought rather than going on

2:05:08

instinct and yeah it's

2:05:10

helped me tremendously good but one thing that's helped me tremendously is a

2:05:13

hinge i started shooting

2:05:14

with a hinge and i shot hinge yeah in other words where uh it it won't release

2:05:20

the arrow till you finish

2:05:21

your back tension exactly and i use dudley's i use this one called too smooth

2:05:26

god damn i love this

2:05:27

thing i'd love to try amazing i shot john send me one of them i'll have him

2:05:31

send you one i wish i'd

2:05:32

known i would have brought one but um the it's called a hinge yeah i know they

2:05:37

made the the release

2:05:39

comes from the movement of your hand yes right and there's like a little click

2:05:42

i hear it like when i

2:05:43

get to like right here i'm pulling my fingers back i hear a little click and i

2:05:47

know all i have to do is

2:05:48

just pull with my back muscles and it'll go off and i have no idea when it's

2:05:51

going to go off but it's

2:05:52

going to go off that's it right there i love that damn thing and i shot the

2:05:56

biggest elk i've ever shot

2:05:57

in my life this year with that hinge well you know you mentioned the click

2:06:00

there was back in the old

2:06:01

days during longbow and recurve competition there was what they called the

2:06:05

clicker are you aware of

2:06:07

that yes where it goes on the top of the limb and you come to full draw but

2:06:11

this little this little

2:06:13

spring steel piece of steel is against the string and you have to finish your

2:06:19

draw with the same back

2:06:20

tension right and when you hear that click little click come off the string you

2:06:25

let go yes so that

2:06:27

there's a lot of there's cycle yeah deep psychology to definitive archery yes

2:06:33

yeah you'll tell really

2:06:34

talk to any olympic archer and they'll tell you that archery accuracy is 99

2:06:44

mental anybody can grab the

2:06:46

bow anybody can hold the string and anybody can pull it back to some discover

2:06:50

form archery form is

2:06:51

critical especially on the olympic line especially when there's an elk out

2:06:55

there especially if it's

2:06:56

further than 30 yards but that form it's it's it's when you execute the shot

2:07:04

that is all mental and

2:07:06

especially you know it's a great big one what that yeah it becomes it's like it's

2:07:13

like there's no world

2:07:16

there's only that elk and you gotta hit them in the crease and sometimes people

2:07:21

shoot the antlers

2:07:22

because that's what they're thinking about which is nuts well i've studied all

2:07:26

the shootings and

2:07:27

typically in a shootout between good guys and bad guys you get this tacky

2:07:32

psyche where the whole

2:07:34

world is towards the weapon and they typically shoot the weapon yeah which isn't

2:07:39

necessarily a bad thing

2:07:41

but not the best thing not the best thing yeah it's it's when you are shooting

2:07:47

a target whether it's

2:07:48

uh an elk or whether it's a target just a 3d target are you looking at your pin

2:07:53

are you looking at the

2:07:54

spot you're looking at the spot i want to hit yeah that's a weird thing too

2:07:57

right it's different that's

2:07:58

where the very man's eyes it's also very different than a rifle yeah right if

2:08:01

you're shooting with a

2:08:02

rifle you want to center that reticle and you just squeeze squeeze squeeze

2:08:06

squeeze squeeze boom

2:08:07

ultimately that reticle and my grandson shot a beautiful doe yesterday with my

2:08:12

ga precision 308 from

2:08:13

george gardner out of kansas city he wins all the long range stuff he just

2:08:17

creates one of the

2:08:18

most accurate rifles on the planet plus i got a new one from the u.s marine

2:08:22

armor that i haven't even

2:08:24

shot yet i'm such a lucky guy but anyhow i do a lot of shooting i do a lot of

2:08:28

training every day

2:08:29

i shoot my handguns every day and i shoot long range every day and it is a a

2:08:35

conflict because on long

2:08:37

range you don't want to waste your time on that little plate you want to see

2:08:42

those crosshairs because

2:08:43

the plate's so small at that long range even with a 24 magnification so

2:08:49

hand-eye coordination spirit breathing sight control you get a good rest

2:08:57

obviously every

2:08:58

time with a bow and arrow you don't get a rest and this guy this guy's in

2:09:02

charge of your life that

2:09:04

finger i missed your right hand all right mister now here's one thing you

2:09:07

probably like to shoot long

2:09:08

range rifle stuff don't pull the trigger anymore with your finger get that

2:09:13

finger on the trigger

2:09:15

know when it's going to go off and wrap that finger on just like a release but

2:09:20

squeeze your whole hand

2:09:22

because when you squeeze your trigger finger you're actually pulling to the

2:09:28

side it's not coming

2:09:30

straight back you can discover that but if you use you squeeze your whole hand

2:09:34

get your finger on the

2:09:35

trigger and you squeeze your whole hand that trigger figure is going to come

2:09:40

back and it just seems to

2:09:42

work really good for me you know lee lakowski right i know the name yeah from

2:09:45

that show oh yeah from

2:09:47

lee and tiffany yeah lee and tiffany he's a killer he is a killer um he i had a

2:09:51

nice long conversation with

2:09:52

him in elk camp we shared elk camp this year and he was telling me that he has

2:09:56

uh he shoots with a

2:09:57

carter target four right and he gets that the the trigger in his thumb and he

2:10:03

makes a fist so that's

2:10:05

that's a thumb release yeah it's a yeah i use that off and on too the thumb

2:10:08

goes in the hook of his

2:10:10

thumb that's what he's talking about the whole hand yeah he doesn't shoot with

2:10:13

the thumb he just makes a

2:10:14

fist yes and he just practices that so often and he's been shooting with that

2:10:19

same release for

2:10:20

20 plus years and that's muscle memory and shot sequence management it's all

2:10:24

about shot sequence

2:10:26

management no increments of the shot sequence are isolated they're all

2:10:31

relatives with the bow and

2:10:33

arrow or a firearm you have to have a muscle memory and the only way you

2:10:38

achieve that is repetition

2:10:40

repetition shoot every day you gotta shoot everything that's why i mentioned a

2:10:43

little while ago

2:10:44

if you get into archway i don't have any place to shoot your living room well

2:10:47

you don't expect me to

2:10:48

shoot a bow in the living room do you yes that's where i shoot my bow i shoot

2:10:52

my bow in every hotel

2:10:54

on tour every year for the last 50 years bring your bow on tour yeah what do

2:10:58

you do you like put up

2:11:00

i got a little target little tiny ball but it's right there but what am i

2:11:04

practicing shot sequence

2:11:08

it's all it doesn't matter whether it's an elk at 40 yards or the ball at 10

2:11:11

feet this guy has got to be

2:11:14

like when you pick up the guitar i don't have to look where i'm going to play i

2:11:19

know where the strings

2:11:20

are and i know where the frets are because i do it all the time since about

2:11:24

1949 same with the bow and

2:11:27

arrow i think it's probably more crucial with the bow and arrow but as i tell

2:11:30

everybody i'm doing a

2:11:31

master class a rock and roll fantasy camp master class when is it um december 8th

2:11:39

anyhow you you

2:11:41

booked this master class with me and i explained how to express yourself on a

2:11:47

guitar quite honestly on

2:11:49

anything do they transfer over like the idea of expressing yourself with a bow

2:11:53

and arrow expressing

2:11:54

yourself with a guitar same if you're a great welder same a great electrician

2:12:00

same great mechanic samurai

2:12:02

miyamoto musashi said that yes once you understand the way broadly you will see

2:12:06

it in all things yes

2:12:07

in all things now see i didn't know that but i knew that yeah instead i'm an

2:12:11

instinctive guy

2:12:13

my instincts rule my life they're they're tuned in they've walked wild grounds

2:12:18

they've got you honor

2:12:20

those instincts like you treat them yeah respect i'm i genuflect at the altar

2:12:25

of my instinct

2:12:26

and in the hotel room or in your living room you could do archery if when you

2:12:31

first start you might

2:12:32

want to get a big backstop yeah but my kids learned archery and marksmanship in

2:12:36

the living room with

2:12:37

daisy red rider bb gun shooting the clothes pins in the fireplace with a bunch

2:12:41

of cardboard behind it

2:12:42

why not um archery will only be optimized repetition repetition i think

2:12:50

anything in life yeah guitar for

2:12:52

sure music um all the important things like welding and mechanics and how about

2:12:58

mechanics don't you just

2:13:00

worship great mechanics i do i worship these people i was going to bring my uh

2:13:05

1970s chevelle here

2:13:07

but uh unfortunately what's under the hood on that a 454 that's awesome you saw

2:13:12

my my fighter jet out

2:13:13

there what do you got out there i got a brand new it's just so much fun dodge

2:13:18

challenger hellcat

2:13:20

super sport wide body red eye 840 horse oh yeah and based on what's in the

2:13:25

trunk it is a fighter jet

2:13:27

i have a ram trx that's what that's a great truck except it's got a governor on

2:13:33

it won't go more than

2:13:33

118 miles an hour uh get rid of that you got to get it from hennessy yeah that's

2:13:38

right but i'm a high

2:13:40

performer i love high performance i do too i know you do that's why i was gonna

2:13:44

bring but i had to go

2:13:45

somewhere afterwards and i can't park the chevelle anywhere yeah it's like a

2:13:48

velvet prison i can't just

2:13:50

leave it somewhere you're 70 yeah and all rebuilt oh the suspension who did it

2:13:55

roaster shop yeah awesome

2:13:57

i i i got a 74 bronco that the texas metal maniacs i know you do yeah you have

2:14:03

a great collection of

2:14:04

cars your uh your love for broncos i love horsepower 72 i i got a i got a 66

2:14:13

completely frame off rebuild

2:14:15

but stock except for the improvements suspension drive train i got a 74 that

2:14:23

the texas metal maniac

2:14:25

gods of thunder have created for me that is just a snort monster i got an 82

2:14:30

with 90 body parts that

2:14:32

brian shoot back and dave miller you gotta go for a ride with me in this thing

2:14:37

it's got a roush yates

2:14:39

800 horsepower got curry axles it's i could take it to baja and just crush it's

2:14:46

so powerful it's so

2:14:48

performance it i it i something about those american muscle cars too american

2:14:55

muscles except the old

2:14:56

sound except the american muscle car from the muscle car era which i missed out

2:15:00

on because i was

2:15:01

too busy buying station wagons for the amboy dukes i've more than made up for

2:15:05

it because the hottest

2:15:08

most powerful muscle car from the muscle car era couldn't touch this fire

2:15:13

breathing hellcat red eye

2:15:15

no couldn't touch it not even close not even close so once i found out that

2:15:20

dodge was producing 700 800 840

2:15:23

horses from the factory i immediately called him and said i need i need a

2:15:28

couple of these you know you're

2:15:29

gonna hate this what can't touch any of these cars is my tesla that's what i

2:15:35

know everybody tells me that

2:15:36

i have a tesla model s plaid the new one jesus christ zero to one hundred and

2:15:41

four seconds

2:15:42

it's zero to 120 in four seconds it's zero to 60 in 1.9

2:15:47

it's a time machine like it doesn't make any sense like when you merge into

2:15:53

traffic i love that part it's

2:15:55

fucking insanity it's like this hellcat red eye whatever i want to go yeah i'm

2:16:00

there yeah they

2:16:01

don't even know i'm in town this thing is silent i know it's the most up part

2:16:05

about it you don't even

2:16:06

feel obnoxious outrageous like when you stomp on the gas on the trx it's like

2:16:10

bro i love it too

2:16:14

but there's something special about doing it in total silence the opening lick

2:16:18

of my new record detroit muscle

2:16:20

says strap your ass in i got a fire breathing mopar downtown detroit is like a

2:16:24

rock and roll dream

2:16:26

kick out the jams if you really want to go far motor city soul gonna make you

2:16:30

scream

2:16:31

every night down at woodward and telegraph every red light is like a drag race

2:16:36

hell

2:16:36

it talks all about the detroit fire of muscle cars they're canceling the hellcat

2:16:43

engine there's what

2:16:44

they're canceling the hellcat engine so does that mean they're going to

2:16:47

continue the demon i don't

2:16:48

think so i think they're going to go all electric they're going to go all

2:16:51

electric everything's going

2:16:52

electric it's so joe let me ask you all the lithium batteries where where they

2:17:00

going they're conflict

2:17:01

minerals they come from the ground ted and you got to get them from really up

2:17:04

places in the world who

2:17:05

convinced these idiots that this is right i think the idea is the emissions are

2:17:11

better so it is better for

2:17:12

our air but as far as like what it does for the environment and what it does

2:17:17

for conflict and

2:17:18

what it i mean you negative you have to get that stuff i mean all negative

2:17:22

there's the places in

2:17:23

the world where lithium is very plentiful or just some sketchy and our enemies

2:17:27

own it all yeah a lot

2:17:29

of them yeah i mean afghanistan is a huge uh place where they get lithium afghanistan

2:17:34

has a massive

2:17:34

supply of lithium but a lot of it is uh taken from also like africa has a lot

2:17:40

of it a lot of the different

2:17:41

areas where people are mining for lithium and there's a finite amount of it too

2:17:46

you know they're

2:17:47

like they were worried about running out of oil which they never did but they

2:17:51

were worried at one

2:17:51

point in time before they figured out how to do fracking a lot of other stuff

2:17:54

and then they figured

2:17:55

out that there was more reserves than they thought there were but they um they

2:17:59

kind of run out of

2:18:00

minerals too i'm sure unless they figure out how to recycle them the ones that

2:18:03

we have i like horsepower

2:18:05

my one bronco is uh tuned up because about 800 yards to the gallon the thing is

2:18:10

the sound it sounds so

2:18:12

sound is so the hellcat is so beautiful roush yates v8s so beautiful i love

2:18:18

them all but the old

2:18:20

sound is the best sound yep the old sound like i have a 1970 barracuda and you

2:18:24

hear that thing

2:18:25

it's awesome yeah but the new ones are just as good they're amazing the new mopars

2:18:32

are just as good as

2:18:32

the old ones it's like having sex with a condom on it's all coming through all

2:18:35

right i wouldn't know

2:18:37

1970 chevelle ss found parked on a garage is that yours 1978 oh no what yeah

2:18:43

that's insane just

2:18:44

looking in uh six days to go the story oh my god 454 or 396 454. oh my god that's

2:18:52

the one

2:18:54

well how about this joe how about you get incredible how about you could get a

2:18:59

454 in a corvette in 1974

2:19:02

that put out 190 horse they were dog shit absolute embarrassment well that was

2:19:07

after the gas crisis

2:19:09

right no but still kiss my ass horrible if we can get a horse per cube if we

2:19:15

can now get almost two

2:19:16

horses per cube what were they thinking back then well back then everybody lost

2:19:21

their mind when they had

2:19:22

a wait in line for gas during that whole gas crisis era america 73 fell apart

2:19:28

the golden age for american

2:19:29

muscle cars in my opinion is between 65 and with with a barracuda you can get

2:19:35

to 71. after 71 things

2:19:37

start getting real slippery they just start looking like you could get a comet

2:19:41

a mercury comet caliente

2:19:45

with a 411 rear end 427 that rated at over 450 horse with a hearse four speed

2:19:51

on the floor for

2:19:53

like three grand oh my god just three grand in america today's dollars yeah

2:19:59

what was that in today's

2:20:00

dollars if you like accounted for inflation 80 80 grand yeah that makes sense

2:20:04

my first bronco 1970 my

2:20:06

first bronco three grand brand new right off the showroom floor wow those cars

2:20:11

now now a hundred you get that

2:20:13

same view three thousand 1970s worth oh it's only worth 21 000 today oh that's

2:20:19

not that nicely done

2:20:20

jamie just a random calculator jamie is a technician i have no idea how he does

2:20:24

that jamie's the master

2:20:25

that's that's not that bad that's actually really reasonable jamie right yeah

2:20:30

see jamie is a perfect

2:20:31

example what i'm talking about if you want to play killer guitar you got to do

2:20:33

it every day if you want

2:20:34

to be a great welder you got to do it every day if you want to be a great

2:20:36

technician in the google world

2:20:38

you got to do it every day like jamie does a big salute to you jamie you are

2:20:41

the samurai of google

2:20:43

ology or whatever the hell do you use duck duck go at all jamie you should yeah

2:20:48

they don't track you

2:20:48

that way when you when you're googling something sketchy maybe you might want

2:20:52

to go over to duck

2:20:53

i know some of the landmines you're going to watch out for when you're googling

2:20:56

i pay no i have no idea

2:20:57

how to work that should i'm glad i just have this thing on my phone that you

2:21:01

gave me the address and i

2:21:02

punched it in and rocko my son showed me how to put it on the screen told me

2:21:05

where to go i remember in the

2:21:06

old days you have to stop at a pay phone have to stop at the golf station get

2:21:09

out a map and find

2:21:10

where you're going it was awesome i'm so glad i paid my dues in the 60s and 70s

2:21:15

you had to improvise

2:21:16

adapt and overcome you had to be a critical thing to read maps yeah you have to

2:21:20

know how to get from

2:21:22

point a to point b when there was only a map at the shell station i'm so glad i

2:21:27

busted my ass people

2:21:28

consider it a struggle it wasn't a struggle it was a orgy it was a riot it was

2:21:32

so much fun unbelievably hard

2:21:35

work yes but so invigorating so titillating so stimulating so intriguing every

2:21:43

out we played 350

2:21:45

concerts a year from 67 through 74 350 yes we played five days off a year i

2:21:52

dared my booking agent to let

2:21:54

us have a day off we play 40 50 shows in a row oh my god and i drove all of

2:21:59

them i did all the driving

2:22:01

i set up the equipment i booked the holiday and just about holiday and was a

2:22:05

three-folder uh brochure

2:22:07

and you could i could find the ones that were 9.95 a night we'd get one room

2:22:11

and we'd all stay in the

2:22:12

same room oh my god when when we stayed in a room typically it was on the road

2:22:16

the whole time everybody

2:22:17

slept in the car wow what a what a riot i've had and i've never do it again i

2:22:22

couldn't i couldn't possibly

2:22:24

survive that now when i go on tour next summer to make up for last year and

2:22:28

this year god damn it are we horny to

2:22:30

play again grayson jason hartless on drums greg smith on bass my crew linda doug

2:22:37

bobby my crew

2:22:39

it's if the military operated like my rock and roll machine we'd win every war

2:22:44

and we wouldn't go to

2:22:45

any illegal ones i have the best band the best crew the best team the best

2:22:51

management so efficient their job

2:22:53

description i was telling your buddy uh jeff here that's my brother's name i

2:22:57

was telling jeff i asked

2:22:59

him what he does and he goes a little bit of everything i went you could work

2:23:01

with me because my

2:23:03

everybody in my life the job description is yes i can do that and if i can i'll

2:23:07

figure it out be able to in three minutes

2:23:09

yeah that sounds like jeff now when you talk to a guy like you that's been

2:23:13

doing something

2:23:15

like playing music for as long as you have and you still love it as much as you

2:23:20

do that makes me very

2:23:21

happy it really does it makes me so i love that when people appreciate what

2:23:25

they do and love what they

2:23:27

do and and feel like they're in the right line of business the saddest in the

2:23:31

world is when you're

2:23:32

talking to someone who doesn't like what they do but let me i got let me

2:23:35

comment i think that's why i'm

2:23:36

here you know who i adore and worship and pray for and am inspired by kamala

2:23:43

harris yes because once

2:23:47

you identify that level of evil you know you have to fight for good sorry to

2:23:51

interrupt no but that's

2:23:53

who do you love that was good one because my response was even better my point

2:23:57

is you know who i

2:23:58

worship the rush hour motherfuckers of america the people at the checkout

2:24:05

counter at the grocery

2:24:07

store the people at the at the stores the the mechanics the people who bust

2:24:13

their ass to go in

2:24:14

some of them really love the mechanic work they really love being a a a chef

2:24:20

but some of them don't

2:24:21

but they still do it they know they have to be self-sufficient they know they

2:24:27

have to be

2:24:28

productive they know and i know these people and i am so humbled and honored

2:24:32

that i've been able to

2:24:34

pursue my my cravings not just my preferences i i i couldn't not play music it

2:24:41

it's it's it's who and

2:24:44

what i am i couldn't not go bow hunting it's it's it's my heartbeat but a lot

2:24:50

of people bust their ass to

2:24:52

be a good checkout guy and a good mechanic and a good janitor and a good and

2:24:57

they're not really in

2:24:59

love with it but they do it every day and as i come here today driving down 35

2:25:05

which by the way

2:25:06

you must know how much i love you because i would not do this i would not go

2:25:12

down i35 for just anybody

2:25:15

is i35 bad wait well today's the first time i've driven it since uh probably a

2:25:20

year ago when the

2:25:21

construction was still just a death wish but my my far tree stand is a pain in

2:25:27

the ass for me to get to

2:25:29

i don't go anywhere okay but to express myself with joe rogan i'm more than

2:25:33

happy to so to me coming from

2:25:34

los angeles these highways are a dream here there's no one it isn't coming from

2:25:39

los angeles yes it's so

2:25:41

much better my point is is that we have to give a huge heartfelt gonzo salute

2:25:48

to the working army of

2:25:50

america because a lot of them don't love their gig yeah but they still do it

2:25:56

and they're not getting rich

2:25:58

they can still live a good life if they use their head and what they spend

2:26:02

their money on and how the

2:26:05

how the improvised depth overcome and use their heads and i know all these

2:26:08

people i i have a campfire

2:26:11

every weekend september october into november i got a birthday hunt next in two

2:26:15

weeks i got a new

2:26:16

year's hunt and these people book these hunts with me from every imaginable

2:26:20

walk of life from every

2:26:21

imaginable job description from every imaginable ideology this sunrise safaris

2:26:26

yes sunrise and so you

2:26:27

are you doing this in michigan like where you where do you have in these we

2:26:30

start them in

2:26:30

michigan in september october for early november then we come down here and i

2:26:34

have

2:26:34

my birthday hunt and then my new year's hunt and then i go to the triple seven

2:26:39

ranch in hondo

2:26:40

for an annual hunt so i book ted nugent hunts and they go on the campfire i

2:26:44

play my guitar we

2:26:46

bullshit we shoot at the range together and how do people sign up for these

2:26:49

they go to sunrise safaris

2:26:50

on my website and just any normal person yeah with ted nugent book it they sign

2:26:55

a waiver i think the waiver

2:26:56

says if i if i snap and stab them in the head it's their fault um a lot like

2:27:01

the waiver you tried to

2:27:02

get me to sign coming in here which i will sign after we dissect it but my

2:27:08

point is is that i know

2:27:10

these kickers right i i hear them and around my camp you can tell that there's

2:27:15

no inhibitions

2:27:16

nobody hesitates to tell me anything they believe whether it's conflicting

2:27:21

suspicious

2:27:22

uh out of character out of line so i get such beautiful feedback raw unvarnished

2:27:32

honest feedback about every imaginable from the good the bad the ugly

2:27:38

especially with all the bad

2:27:40

and the ugly that the world is producing right now so i know these people and i

2:27:44

know that that hardware

2:27:45

store clerk saved money to go hunting with me and he tells me about his truck

2:27:52

and his new rifle and he's

2:27:53

a hardware clerk i know how these people operate they're frugal they're smart

2:28:00

their work ethic is

2:28:02

is godlike and they're my campfire and they share what fred bear means what stranglehold

2:28:09

means what

2:28:10

what my music means to them what freedom means to them what the first amendment

2:28:14

means to them what the

2:28:15

second amendment means to them how distrusting the government is how they love

2:28:20

their family how

2:28:22

they they love their daughter at the volleyball i mean i get such a a totality

2:28:30

of input from just great shit kicker americans that when i speak it's not ted

2:28:37

nugent stuff it's the

2:28:39

accumulation of this raw honest unvarnished evidence that goes into my psyche

2:28:46

so when i comment about

2:28:47

something it's not well my my presumption would be i don't presume i hear from

2:28:52

then i've been doing this

2:28:55

the campfire thing for almost 40 years so for 40 years you've been having these

2:29:02

just yeah it's with

2:29:03

yeah and random and then the backstage and then the backstage banter and then

2:29:07

the people stopped

2:29:08

me at the gas station the people stopped me at old foods and the coffee shop

2:29:12

and the input they're

2:29:13

uninhibited and they they they want to share with me because they see me saying

2:29:18

what they're not even

2:29:19

allowed to say that's what they all almost all of them reference that god i

2:29:23

wish i could see what you

2:29:25

said i'd get fired if i said it thank you so much that's the real problem with

2:29:28

the job right that's

2:29:30

the real problem it's uh being able to express your opinions is very hard yeah

2:29:33

that's a giant and

2:29:35

harder so today because of social media i mean it's uh people are getting fired

2:29:40

for stuff they said on

2:29:41

their social media 10 years ago unbelievable yeah and particularly today with

2:29:45

like it doesn't even

2:29:46

have to be controversial i was talking to this guy uh uh dr mike hart from canada

2:29:51

guy who's been on my

2:29:52

show today uh before in the past and he was telling me that he posted something

2:29:57

on linkedin and it was

2:29:58

just a study showing um how people uh should take vitamin d and it was associating

2:30:05

high levels of

2:30:06

vitamin d with positive covet 19 so far so good outputs that's it it was just a

2:30:10

scientific paper

2:30:11

he shared on linkedin and he it got banned like they they they pulled it down

2:30:16

and there was nothing

2:30:19

he i go send me what you wrote like i'll read it to you because it's so crazy

2:30:24

isn't that heartbreaking

2:30:26

here it is this is what he wrote vitamin d treatment shortened hospital stay

2:30:29

and decreased mortality in

2:30:31

covet cases even the existence of comorbidities vitamin d supplementation is

2:30:35

effective on various target

2:30:36

parameters therefore it's essential for covet 19 treatment it's a pubbed study

2:30:40

it's a peer-reviewed

2:30:42

study and it is in no way anti-vaccine it's in no way anything there's nothing

2:30:46

negative about it at

2:30:47

all it's just saying that vitamin d is very important to your immune system so

2:30:52

he put he publishes this

2:30:53

and it gets pulled from linkedin they literally said you know we're pulling

2:30:58

this down it's been removed

2:31:00

because it goes against our professional community policies like sure what the

2:31:05

does that even mean this

2:31:06

guy's a doctor he's a medical he's an md and they're professional it's crazy

2:31:12

devil paul i mean

2:31:14

how i don't understand how evil can you not to be understood there is evil in

2:31:18

this world and when you

2:31:19

have someone recommending an upgrade procedure for quality health and someone bans

2:31:25

it the people who

2:31:26

bans that recommended upgrade for quality health is pure evil that's all you

2:31:30

need to understand there's

2:31:32

a there's a there's a narrative holy shit hey jeff or josh bring me some water

2:31:37

there's water right

2:31:38

here buddy is there water yeah there's water in that there for you that's it

2:31:41

never mind jeff and josh

2:31:42

you got it the there's no reason why anybody should not be able to talk about

2:31:47

things that are helpful

2:31:49

and the narrative today is it's either the vaccine or nothing and anything that

2:31:54

shows you that you're

2:31:56

healthier because of it in some way or another could increase vaccine hesitancy

2:32:01

like they they want you

2:32:02

to be sick unless you take a vaccine it's really strange cruel evil hateful

2:32:08

rotten to the core that

2:32:11

whole leftist agenda that media academia big tech censorship hollywood it's

2:32:19

fucking strange rotten

2:32:21

it's not really straight strange in america because it's never been this

2:32:25

horrible but historically

2:32:28

this level of evil and rot has existed if you're aware of the trail of tears or

2:32:33

the baton death march

2:32:35

or the uh or the rape of nan king um if you're not aware of that stuff then

2:32:39

this would be shocking to

2:32:41

you but if you're aware of the depth of evil and cruelty and demonacy of

2:32:45

mankind then this is nothing

2:32:47

different than the history of evil and cruelty and demonacy of mankind and that

2:32:51

describes the left

2:32:52

how'd it come out like this though because the left was all about like make

2:32:57

love not war i don't think

2:32:58

so but what happened like what why did it shift very careful totalitarian like

2:33:05

ideology that must be

2:33:08

subscribed to and then this this giving into authority which is weird i will

2:33:15

not comply joe i'm here to

2:33:17

help you know i'm here to help and i respect your elders right yes do not

2:33:22

bother yourself with the big

2:33:24

question why just acknowledge if the guy's breaking into your house you have to

2:33:29

shoot him you don't

2:33:30

need to know why he's breaking into i know but i'm a curious person so i just

2:33:34

don't understand how so

2:33:36

many people are going along with this i understand that it's anxiety that goes

2:33:39

along with the pair the

2:33:40

pandemic and there's also this desire to not be attacked so you attack others i

2:33:44

get that i get i get

2:33:45

all the psychological mechanisms that are at play that allow people to fall

2:33:49

into this sort of totalitarian

2:33:52

thinking because the the totalitarian thinking is so strange to me that it's

2:33:56

coming from the left that

2:33:58

they're giving in to this authoritarianism they're giving in to this idea that

2:34:02

the government is your

2:34:03

friend and the pharmaceutical companies are looking out for your best interest

2:34:07

it's the craziest thing

2:34:08

ever to have that come from the most educated i mean if you look at

2:34:13

traditionally the people on the left

2:34:15

traditionally have the most education or they might not be the most intelligent

2:34:19

where did that education

2:34:21

come from what is the content of that education for sure but it's it's still in

2:34:26

their eyes

2:34:27

like for throughout history if you if you talk to people like if you talk to

2:34:31

people in the 1990s about the left

2:34:33

from the left and you ask them do you trust the pharmaceutical companies they'd

2:34:36

be like

2:34:36

no if you talk to people in the 2000s that were dealing with the opioid crisis

2:34:40

and all the other

2:34:41

issues i mean if you watch that show dope sick if you see like the depths that

2:34:45

these pharmaceutical

2:34:46

companies have gone to in order to sell poison to people and to talk to people

2:34:51

and lie to them to

2:34:52

tell them this poison is not addictive and to trick politicians and i have a

2:34:58

friend who used to be a

2:34:59

sales rep and he and i were talking about this the other day and he used to be

2:35:02

a sales rep for

2:35:03

pharmaceutical pharmaceutical companies and he said they would tell him you are

2:35:07

going to be best friends

2:35:08

with that doctor you're going to know his kids names you're going to show up at

2:35:13

his kids games you're

2:35:14

going to get them free tickets to baseball games you're going to get them free

2:35:19

meals you're going

2:35:19

to do whatever you can to get inside their good graces and the idea is to get

2:35:24

them to prescribe as

2:35:25

much of our drugs as possible and he was i had never heard this i i knew that

2:35:30

he had done something in the

2:35:31

pharmaceutical industry but i didn't know how deep it was and he and i had this

2:35:34

conversation about it

2:35:35

it was mind-blowing and he's your friend because his conscience kicked in yeah

2:35:39

well he's not in that

2:35:40

business at all that's my point his conscience kicked he was young he was like

2:35:43

21 years old when

2:35:44

he was doing this like fresh out of college well the movie the fugitive yeah

2:35:47

manipulate it to become

2:35:48

rich and controlled in control and they could they could give a about how many

2:35:53

lives are lost but when

2:35:54

he was explaining how this guy makes this amount of money because he sells this

2:35:58

amount and he has this

2:35:59

and they they had a list down of all the doctors that prescribed the most drugs

2:36:05

and all the doctors

2:36:05

that'll prescribe the most ssris the most painkillers the most anxiety

2:36:10

medication and that they're just

2:36:11

fucking handing this out like candy and they're being encouraged to do this

2:36:15

from these pharmaceutical

2:36:16

companies and they're sort of paid but not really it's a lot of it is influence

2:36:21

a lot of it is

2:36:22

influence through giving them free things giving them free meals it is but it's

2:36:27

also like they develop

2:36:28

this reputation and this relationship with these doctors and these nurses and

2:36:32

they take everyone

2:36:33

to dinner and then when someone comes along they go well well pfizer's your

2:36:37

friend pfizer's my friend

2:36:39

and then next thing you know they're prescribing whatever the fuck pfizer's

2:36:41

selling mankind is so

2:36:43

capable of soulless weakness where you can buy their soul you can buy their

2:36:51

decision you can you can have

2:36:53

them look away from their morals to enrich and empower themselves but again

2:36:59

when you start asking why i

2:37:01

don't know why isn't eric holder and uh barack obama in prison for killing brian

2:37:05

terry i mean why is

2:37:06

brian terry brian terry was the michigan uh border agent that was killed with

2:37:10

the guns that barack obama

2:37:12

and all right gave to the mexican drug cartels that killed brian terry was that

2:37:17

operation called yeah

2:37:18

fast and furious furious that's right i mean that was that was the crazy i mean

2:37:21

explain what that was

2:37:22

because it is one of the craziest things to imagine that they thought this was

2:37:26

a good idea they legally

2:37:29

sold i mean legally in court according to them sold drugs or sold guns rather

2:37:33

than mexican cartels

2:37:34

because they wanted to be able to track them yes they what they were so figure

2:37:39

out they were so anti-gun

2:37:41

barack obama and eric holder two of the biggest punks that ever slithered the

2:37:46

earth that they were

2:37:48

going to provide as much firepower to the most evil people the child molester

2:37:53

the child traffickers the

2:37:54

drug importers the fentanyl producers they provided guns to the mexican drug

2:38:00

cartel devils

2:38:01

to show that those types of weapons were will end up committing crimes in america

2:38:08

because they

2:38:09

also had the borders open where they could bring the guns that eric holder and

2:38:12

barack obama gave to the

2:38:13

drug cartels american guns mostly ars in in 1911 45s and 10 millimeters a lot

2:38:19

of delta elites they

2:38:21

provided them in fact mike mike the ffl in uh in uh prescott in phoenix that

2:38:30

the fbi and the dea used to

2:38:34

provide all these firearms to the mexican drug cartels knowingly claiming eric

2:38:40

and holder barack

2:38:40

obama claiming well we need to track these guns to show you where they go so we

2:38:44

can we can get the

2:38:45

guys that use them illegally no that's what they were doing they were doing it

2:38:48

so that they would

2:38:49

use them illegally so they could pass more restrictive gun laws in america in

2:38:53

other words

2:38:53

providing firepower to the mexican gangs would somehow support the theory that

2:38:59

gun control in america

2:39:01

would make our streets safer is this this is brian terry was shot with one of

2:39:06

those uh sks's it was

2:39:08

ak-47 no it was not a collision to cough machine gun it was an sks semi-automatic

2:39:13

now is this a theory

2:39:15

that this is why they did this no it came out i mean the book i got to get the

2:39:18

book i'll get the guy's

2:39:20

name but is this is it a theory that this was the motivation for them selling

2:39:24

these drugs or these

2:39:25

guys came out it came out in documents that surfaced so in documents it surfaced

2:39:30

that showed a direct

2:39:31

connection between them selling the guns and wanting to pass more restrictive

2:39:35

second amendment laws yep

2:39:37

who's hey hey anybody wants to take my guns you whoa that's strong strong words

2:39:45

from ted nugent

2:39:47

i can't believe you're saying that when you handed me this flag with a cannon

2:39:53

on it that's what's

2:39:54

hilarious mike daddy you ready yeah fast and furious mike daddy get up hey jamie

2:39:59

get the book by mike

2:40:00

daddy i think it might be called fast and furious uh d-e-t-t-y he filmed the dea

2:40:07

and fbi instructing

2:40:09

him to sell guns to known gang members from mexico he had cameras in his house

2:40:15

as he had mountains of

2:40:16

1911s and colt ar-15s as the dea and fbi operation wide receiver everybody and

2:40:24

if i struggle the book to

2:40:26

expose the corruption and deceit that led to operation fast and furious mike

2:40:30

daddy wow cheryl atkins did

2:40:34

anybody go to jail for that operation fast and furious no no one went to jail

2:40:38

and so when you

2:40:39

start asking why you'd have to start there why so explain that he had cameras

2:40:43

in his house he had

2:40:44

cameras in his house filming and recording the dea and the atf by the way let's

2:40:49

let's take a little

2:40:50

side trip here shall we okay mr government bureaucrat um we decided the

2:40:57

different bureaucracies that we

2:40:59

need another bureaucracy to maybe milk some more tax dollars out of the

2:41:03

american public and uh bloat it

2:41:06

to such a degree that we have ten thousand people doing the job of nine follow

2:41:10

me on this so they

2:41:12

had a little meeting one day in a room and we need another bureaucracy you know

2:41:15

we could probably make

2:41:16

it really over bloated and expansive and waste a lot of tax dollars well but i

2:41:20

don't know what the

2:41:21

bureaucracy should be about somebody in the back room went alcohol well now we

2:41:26

don't really need the

2:41:28

government doesn't really have anything to say about alcohol not since the

2:41:30

prohibition so uh

2:41:31

uh somebody else went well that doesn't matter let's just have an alcohol

2:41:35

bureaucracy so the

2:41:36

bureaucrats in the room went yeah why not let's have it the bureau of alcohol

2:41:41

somebody in the back

2:41:42

of the room went tobacco tobacco throw it tobacco in there they went well what

2:41:46

does the government

2:41:47

have to do with tobacco it's just a fucking agriculture crop we don't have any

2:41:50

say in that

2:41:51

somebody in the room went yeah we don't need to just throw out tobacco tobacco

2:41:55

tobacco so these

2:41:56

bureaucrats went yeah we could create a giant bloated wasteful um arbitrary

2:42:02

bureau of alcohol and tobacco

2:42:04

great somebody in the back of the room went skateboards skateboards skateboards

2:42:10

they went no that's a

2:42:10

little fun i don't think we'll ever convince anybody we need to control alcohol

2:42:15

tobacco and skateboards

2:42:17

so somebody in the back of the room went guns let's do throw guns in there well

2:42:21

that doesn't really

2:42:22

make what is really alcohol tobacco and firearms that just there's really the

2:42:26

second amendment there's

2:42:28

no reason to have a bureaucracy and the people in the room went the does that

2:42:31

matter let's just create

2:42:32

a bureaucracy that deals with alcohol tobacco and firearms that is a weird

2:42:38

group and so these

2:42:39

assholes in the room went yeah we could probably start a law enforcement agency

2:42:44

and bloat the

2:42:45

shit out of that and then we could tax and we could have studies and we could

2:42:49

go after people and we

2:42:50

could so we could infringe but it says it shall not be infringed ah that we can

2:42:55

infringe if we want to

2:42:57

joe rogan smart smart man i dare you to explain why there is such a bureaucracy

2:43:07

that deals with alcohol

2:43:09

tobacco and firearms it's impossible it's what's the kind of numb nut came up

2:43:16

with that by the way all

2:43:17

you atf agents out there you soulless pricks how do you not challenge your boss

2:43:25

that your agency

2:43:27

is against the law in the united states of america and i know some of these

2:43:31

guys and some of these

2:43:32

guys are pretty good guys but if you were a pretty good bass player you couldn't

2:43:36

be in my band

2:43:37

because you have to be a really good base they have to be the best bass player

2:43:41

and you have to be

2:43:42

honest and you have to stand up for what you believe in and all you atf agents

2:43:47

and de agents and fbi

2:43:48

agents you took an oath to the constitution of the united states of america you

2:43:55

punks

2:43:57

every day you violate that sacred oath how can you live with yourselves how can

2:44:03

you face your children

2:44:05

knowing that you support an agency that has to do with alcohol tobacco and

2:44:12

firearms don't you know

2:44:14

deep in your soul that that is so stupid and so anti-american that you must

2:44:14

have bouts of guilt and i would recommend that

2:44:26

you implement those bouts of guilt and you fight with good americans to

2:44:31

eliminate these illegal immoral

2:44:36

anti-american anti-freedom oath violating bureaucracies i rest my case and now

2:44:43

if you come after me because

2:44:44

of my joe rogan rant bring it the on wow how did it start like how long ago

2:44:55

what's holding a rumor yeah i understand shoe laces but i mean prohibition

2:44:59

prohibition so it's been

2:45:01

that you want out since the 1930s before that even but the atf oh nugent's

2:45:04

really going to get in

2:45:05

trouble now we're rooting over the top fuck you i'm a free american if i want

2:45:09

to have to alcohol

2:45:10

tobacco or a firearm there's no man that has any input into that decision-making

2:45:16

process those are my

2:45:17

decisions what is the idea of the atf like today i can't imagine do they serve

2:45:23

i can't imagine are they

2:45:25

in is that the only regulatory body when it comes to firearms like there there

2:45:30

are some regulations

2:45:31

when it comes to firearms your sheriff department has that control your state

2:45:35

troopers have that control

2:45:36

your city police have that control and unfortunately there is federal control

2:45:41

right there's some federal

2:45:42

control firearms no why is there it's it's a constitutional right what the how

2:45:47

how does a

2:45:48

federal agent think he can control tobacco where do you get the authority the

2:45:54

idea is that you need

2:45:55

a tobacco stamp but that's an agriculture right why do you need a tobacco stamp

2:45:59

yeah why do you why

2:46:01

do you need a tomato stamp do i need a permit or paperwork or a license for my

2:46:06

first amendment i guess

2:46:08

the idea is all three of them kill people i mean is that the only thing they

2:46:11

share in common it seems

2:46:12

like it is joe i have a first amendment yes before it was written down i had it

2:46:18

before they wrote it

2:46:19

down how'd you do that because i was born with it i got it from god oh the

2:46:24

founding fathers wrote it

2:46:25

down because king george and his punks thought that they can control our

2:46:29

religions and our speaking you

2:46:31

know it's interesting what's going on in australia today you think the uh over-the-top

2:46:37

police state

2:46:38

in response to my whole point yeah that that would not be possible in america

2:46:42

under the current laws

2:46:44

the way it sits right now because too many people are armed particularly here

2:46:48

hallelujah especially in

2:46:50

this room you wouldn't be able to you literally wouldn't be able to do that you

2:46:53

wouldn't be able to

2:46:54

just roam the streets and lock people down think of a president of the united

2:47:00

states when discussing the

2:47:02

second amendment who is so brain dead soulless and evil to the core he is the

2:47:10

supposedly commander-in-chief

2:47:13

president of the united states of america the one we have now yes whatever that

2:47:18

thing is

2:47:18

punk he barely knows he's a president though

2:47:22

might that's my point so he's talking about the second amendment not that long

2:47:26

ago recently

2:47:28

and he goes well you got to be kidding me i mean you can keep and bear arms but

2:47:32

what are you gonna

2:47:32

do we have nuclear weapons let's stop and take a a moment and examine the

2:47:38

thought process of the

2:47:41

president of the united states instead of supporting the people's god-given

2:47:46

individual right is guaranteed

2:47:47

by the second amendment to keep and bear arms instead of voicing compassionate

2:47:52

freedom loving support for

2:47:55

that self-evident truth he threatened us that our second amendment will do no

2:48:02

good against the atomic

2:48:04

nuclear power of that prick what what are you saying he said your second

2:48:11

amendment won't do any good

2:48:13

because we have nuclear weapons don't you remember that exchange no i don't

2:48:17

well i'm glad i'm here to

2:48:19

remind you well i'll get jamie to find it jamie find that one he literally said

2:48:24

he said are they

2:48:25

going to nuke the that's my point what kind of subhuman prick well it's just

2:48:33

their perspective is

2:48:34

so whirls his way up to the commander-in-chief position and then instead of voicing

2:48:39

support for

2:48:40

the self-evident truth that god gave us the right to freedom of speech and keep

2:48:44

and bear arms instead of

2:48:45

stating that as a representative of the american experiment and self-government

2:48:51

he took the

2:48:51

enemy's perspective and said your second amendment won't do any good because we

2:48:55

have nuclear weapons

2:48:56

is that real did he really say see your question just like i believe you i i

2:49:02

believe you but i'm

2:49:03

everything i say is true i believe you that's what glenn beck said when i said

2:49:07

you know 96 of violent

2:49:08

crimes are repeated hold on look at this wrote down i might add the second

2:49:12

amendment from the day it was

2:49:13

passed limited the type of people could own a gun what type of weapon you could

2:49:18

own you couldn't buy

2:49:20

cannon those who say the blood of the the blood of patriots you know and all

2:49:25

the stuff about how we're

2:49:26

going to have to move against the government well the tree of liberty is not

2:49:30

watering the blood of patriots

2:49:32

what's happened is that there never been if you wanted to think you need to

2:49:37

have weapons to take

2:49:38

on the government you need f-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons the point is

2:49:43

that there's always been

2:49:44

the ability to limit rationally limit the type of weapon that can be owned and

2:49:49

who can own it the last

2:49:51

time we had data on this look at that freak listen to this man purchasing guns

2:49:56

was more than 20 years ago

2:49:58

five percent of gun dealers turns out in the study we did showed that 90

2:50:04

percent of illegal guns were

2:50:07

found in the crime scenes sold by five percent of gun dealers five percent so

2:50:13

90 percent he's already

2:50:15

made the statement that we our second amendment won't do any good unless we

2:50:18

have f-15s and nuclear weapons

2:50:20

taking on the government that was i don't even that's not what he's there for

2:50:24

he's not there

2:50:24

for us to take him on he's there for to support us yeah he's supposed to work

2:50:29

he's supposed to help

2:50:30

defend us not defend against us he's not supposed to be our boss either he's

2:50:33

supposed to work for us

2:50:35

which is a strange concept for people to get in their head like these these

2:50:39

people are not supposed

2:50:39

to be running us they're supposed to be working for us to enhance our life here

2:50:44

in america but

2:50:45

this idea that there's always been a restriction on the type of weapons that

2:50:49

you could have that's not true

2:50:50

that's not true at all it's not in the constitution nope if you look at the

2:50:54

bill of rights if you look

2:50:56

at the second amendment it doesn't say anything about you can't have a cannon

2:51:00

bear arms it does yeah it

2:51:02

says the the right to a well-armed militia to keep and bear arms the right to

2:51:06

form a well-armed militia in

2:51:08

the atmosphere of king george's men coming to disarm us yeah and in the

2:51:13

atmosphere of the potential tyranny

2:51:16

from a corrupt government and if you don't think that it's possible for a

2:51:19

corrupt government

2:51:20

just look to the past it's it just doesn't mean it's happening right now we're

2:51:24

gonna have to take

2:51:25

arms against the government but there could and i think until covet came around

2:51:29

and until we saw

2:51:30

what's going on in australia and in some other parts of the world where you do

2:51:35

see unarmed populations

2:51:37

who are being controlled by police states like look what's happening in hong kong

2:51:40

right look what's

2:51:41

happening in other parts of the world where they they don't have any weapons

2:51:44

they don't have any control

2:51:46

and they're being controlled by these totalitarian regimes bingo yeah bingo

2:51:51

that this this idea of

2:51:53

taking up arms it it becomes more and more possible in a lot of people's eyes

2:51:58

today tyrants see the news

2:52:00

tyrants need unarmed and helpless victims they do yeah and you know it's also

2:52:06

the way people behave

2:52:08

they behave and think differently when they're governing people that are unarmed

2:52:12

they really do

2:52:13

always historically it's i mean i i never went to college i was too busy

2:52:16

learning stuff and i've never

2:52:17

read many books i haven't read any books i think i wrote king dog of the north

2:52:22

you know you don't read

2:52:23

books at all i don't read books um i write books but i uh study information and

2:52:28

i communicate with wise

2:52:29

people who do know history and i got to tell you stuff like uh um the discovery

2:52:35

channel and the

2:52:35

occasional nova special when they delve into the history and even a guy like tucker

2:52:40

carlson who

2:52:40

brings forth unlimited evidence to support his statements and whether it's

2:52:45

footage like the

2:52:46

footage of uh fast and furious or whether it's footage of the president

2:52:49

claiming that our second

2:52:51

amendment won't help against the government unless we have f-15s and nuclear

2:52:55

weapons i don't need to

2:52:57

know anything more than what i hear from the mouths of suspicious people that

2:53:01

are executing tyranny and

2:53:04

control over innocent lives and here's a part of the problem with what he said

2:53:07

the military is run by

2:53:09

regular people it's regular people that are the army it's regular people that's

2:53:13

right we the people

2:53:14

marines the navies the seals all the green berets the rangers those are regular

2:53:20

people those are

2:53:21

those are not tyrants i've i've done those are us i've done raids with atf

2:53:26

agents dea agents fbi

2:53:28

agents did you ask them why the tobacco and the alcohol and the firearms all

2:53:32

together and they they don't

2:53:33

like it of course they don't like it when i ask them and they don't they don't

2:53:37

like it when i ask them

2:53:39

how they face their children and they don't like it when i ask them how they

2:53:42

could follow somebody like

2:53:44

j edgar hoover or james comey right um they don't like it when i ask them

2:53:47

because and here's the horror

2:53:49

of it you're ready for the i've said a lot of hard things here today and i've

2:53:52

said a lot of lovely

2:53:53

buoyant things today a lot of positive stuff hills and valleys i think yeah i

2:53:57

got this thing called life

2:53:59

it's called a roller coaster you know you're all over the place it's an

2:54:01

adventure yeah i'm all over

2:54:02

the place i live a full life god bless me the fbi agents that decided to commando

2:54:13

up and go arrest

2:54:14

roger stone with the cnn cameras rolling how do you obey an immoral command

2:54:20

like that how do you obey an

2:54:22

oath violating command like that and i know these guys i hunt with these guys i

2:54:27

train with these guys i

2:54:28

i shoot with these guys i bullshit with these guys and you know what they say

2:54:32

the horror of horrors

2:54:33

this is going to be the lowest point of this entire exchange today i'd lose my

2:54:37

pension great great so

2:54:42

morals be damned your conscience is put on hold so you can get a paycheck even

2:54:49

though you're violating

2:54:50

your fellow american's rights i don't think we can be friends i i i mean i'm

2:54:55

incapable of that there's

2:54:59

morals there's conscience you all know what's right and what's wrong and there's

2:55:05

so many examples whether

2:55:06

it's lauren lon horiachi why that prick's not in prison or face that the guy

2:55:11

who shot vicky weaver

2:55:13

oh this is the ruby ridge ruby ridge yeah so this guy yeah so you can just

2:55:18

shoot people really how

2:55:21

about the how about the the atf clusterfuck of the branch davidians i mean

2:55:28

there's no accountability

2:55:30

how about the the heartbreaking tragic oath violating clusterfuck of benghazi

2:55:37

so it did it's that's water under the bridge really so if someone rapes your

2:55:41

daughter since

2:55:42

she's already raped we don't have to get the guy that did it no it's not done

2:55:46

till you get the guy

2:55:47

that did it and he's eliminated one way or the other there is no justice in

2:55:52

america and our our court

2:55:54

systems until kyle rittenhouse i didn't think there was any justice left thank

2:55:59

god for kyle rittenhouse

2:56:01

uh i i i'm gonna i think you probably read i'm sending him a lifetime supply of

2:56:06

good ammo um that

2:56:08

was a moment in time for america where we can take a deep breath and go thank

2:56:13

god a jury in kenosha

2:56:15

still has a soul a conscience and they understand glaring right over glaring

2:56:21

wrong glaring good over

2:56:23

glaring evil is there a story in our lifetime that has had more misrepresentation

2:56:31

in the

2:56:31

media in terms of like what the narrative is versus what actually happened well

2:56:36

maybe i'm in the

2:56:36

huffington post wrote that i adopted a nine-year-old girl to have sex with what's

2:56:41

her name the lies

2:56:43

they've said about me nugent dodged the draft didn't dodge the draft a nugent's

2:56:47

a racist my my bass player

2:56:48

is black um they because they can't debate me because i'm my my speech is so drenched

2:56:56

in evidence to

2:56:57

support everything i stand for pierce morgan that they they know they can't

2:57:02

debate me i remember

2:57:03

that the pierce morgan thing was fascinating because he tried to equate he was

2:57:06

talking about

2:57:07

gun violence but he he didn't understand that when he was quoting those numbers

2:57:11

so many of those people

2:57:13

that died were killed in the process of committing crimes yes or suicide yeah

2:57:18

or suicide with gun violence

2:57:20

yeah so many so many instances so but what i want to get back to the kyle rittenhouse

2:57:24

thing though it's

2:57:24

like so many people didn't even know that he shot white guys until the trial

2:57:29

was almost over or

2:57:30

people that i know that i was friends with they didn't even know that someone

2:57:33

had pulled a gun

2:57:34

on him they chased him down or that the riots were based on the claim by cnn

2:57:39

that the the the guy that

2:57:41

the cops shot was dead they didn't kill him the cops murdered an unarmed black

2:57:46

man the uh blake guy or

2:57:48

whatever his name was that the cops were called in kenosha which which was the

2:57:52

impetus of the riots

2:57:54

they go they murdered an innocent unarmed black man but he's alive isn't it

2:57:58

fascinating too though that

2:58:00

what happens during these uh a lot of these riots is people that are already

2:58:07

bad people use these riots as

2:58:09

an excuse to do violent acts and that's what you saw with the one guy that he

2:58:13

shot that was a multiple

2:58:15

offender pedophile lifetime yeah i mean he had had he had raped multiple young

2:58:21

kids i mean he's a

2:58:22

horrible person devil the other guy was a wife beater a domestic abuser these

2:58:29

these guys that were there

2:58:30

were horrific people i i get a shout out to you recently i don't know if

2:58:34

anybody told you that but i gave a

2:58:35

shout out to michael berry and joe paggs and tucker carlson and sean hannity

2:58:41

and and lars larson and

2:58:42

mark davis all these conservative talk show people there's a there's a term i i

2:58:48

beseech you to begin

2:58:50

parroting and it is at the core of all heartbreak tragedy and victimization

2:58:57

engineered victimization in

2:58:59

america and the term i coined in a recent well that's not recent it was years

2:59:04

ago is that based on

2:59:05

many uniform crime reports by the fbi one of the rare moments where they can be

2:59:11

trusted

2:59:12

is that upwards of 96 percent of violent crime that's a huge number it's as

2:59:19

good as 100 as far as

2:59:20

i'm sure if you're 96 likely to kill an elk on that hunt you're going to

2:59:24

probably kill an elk

2:59:26

96 percent of violent crime is committed by repeat offenders what we are living

2:59:31

in today

2:59:32

is the scourge of engineered recidivism the violent offenders that are

2:59:40

guaranteed to repeat their crimes

2:59:42

are led out by the courts the judges the prosecutors the parole boards and the

2:59:48

negotiation of early release

2:59:50

or plea bargaining well i know he shot a guy but maybe we can get him to

2:59:53

testify against the guy who

2:59:55

drove the getaway car no no stop engineered recidivism all the when you say

3:00:01

engineered do you think this

3:00:03

is done on purpose yes it has to be because you can't not know it if i was a

3:00:08

tinfoil hat wearing

3:00:09

conspiracy theorist person i would i would say that too and i'm resisting it

3:00:13

with with every fiber of my

3:00:15

being as do i but when i look at like what's going on in los angeles in

3:00:19

particular where they are

3:00:20

letting people out left and right and you've got robberies all over the place

3:00:24

it is engineered

3:00:26

but i know what la used to be like because i used to live there it used to be

3:00:30

different just five

3:00:31

years ago sure it's very different but the district attorney that they have now

3:00:34

this guy gascon

3:00:35

monster and george soros evil's best friend it's crazy the way they're letting

3:00:41

people out of jail

3:00:42

well you were talking people that commit violent crimes you were talking to

3:00:44

jackal or jaco one of

3:00:46

your guys yeah about the the shootout the yeah yeah the chicago one yeah and

3:00:52

they on film here's

3:00:53

these guys combat breaking felony after felony after felony with illegal guns

3:00:58

felony they got him on film

3:00:59

they know the guy there's his picture he's on film nobody's prosecuted not only

3:01:03

you've got to be

3:01:04

kidding me they dropped all the charges yes due to mutual combat which is

3:01:08

supposed to be two guys

3:01:09

having a fist fight that's what mutual combat supposed to be that's my point

3:01:12

that is shootout

3:01:13

that is engineered recidivism they know these are but here's the thing why are

3:01:17

they doing that there's

3:01:18

that why question again i don't give a but i do i want to know what's the end

3:01:23

goal there must be some

3:01:25

end goal to destroy society but why would they want to do that i can't imagine

3:01:29

i can't imagine either

3:01:30

but if i look and you have a great imagination i have a great imagination i

3:01:32

could probably come up with

3:01:33

some well maybe it's well maybe it's maybe it's this don't give yourself a

3:01:38

headache steps if you took

3:01:39

all these steps step one defund the police step one hire these insane

3:01:45

progressive air quotes crime

3:01:48

loving prosecutors da's that are letting people off and like the guy in wisconsin

3:01:53

that ran over those 50

3:01:55

people that guy they had just he had tried to run over his girlfriend engineer

3:02:00

he was out on only a

3:02:01

thousand dollars bail i tried to kill somebody with a car he was out on a

3:02:04

thousand dollars bail and then

3:02:06

he runs over 50 people in a car engineered recidivism and then here's the

3:02:10

fucked up part the way they're

3:02:11

covering that story in the news it's all about the car the man you know there's

3:02:15

it's not the man who

3:02:16

killed those people it's a an accident that was caused by an suv a fucking suv

3:02:20

caused an accident

3:02:21

what are you saying did it go haywire did the auto driving feature go nuts and

3:02:26

it just plowed into the crowd no that

3:02:28

engineered man with real problems like a really psycho psychologically

3:02:33

human being drove into a crowd of strangers listen to the words out of the

3:02:38

prosecutorial team

3:02:39

at the kyle rittenhouse trial listen to the words out of their mouths and don't

3:02:44

give yourself a headache

3:02:46

you'll get an aneurysm if you pursue the question why would they say that why

3:02:52

would that prosecuting team

3:02:54

say that when someone is attacking you with a gun and a skateboard that we all

3:02:58

have to put up with

3:02:59

a beating once in a while and there's no reason really what they said they said

3:03:03

that way they said

3:03:04

there's we all have to put up with a beating once in a while that was that

3:03:08

actual words that they said

3:03:10

we all have to put up with a beating listen to me closely really yes we jim you'll

3:03:15

find it

3:03:16

there's first of all i've seen a video of a security guard that got hit in the

3:03:20

head with a skateboard

3:03:21

that caved his skull yes that's my point brain damage it's a horrible photo

3:03:26

like the half of his

3:03:27

head is like caved in people in charge of justice are claiming that you must

3:03:32

take a beating with a guy

3:03:34

with an oak skateboard and a glock pointed at your head that you just need to

3:03:40

bend over spread your cheeks

3:03:42

and take it that's what the prosecuting team said that's what the chicago

3:03:46

prosecutor said that's what

3:03:48

the new york prosecutor said that's what the portland prosecutor said that's

3:03:52

what the seattle prosecutor

3:03:53

said that's what the atlanta prosecutor said one week before the cop shot the

3:03:57

guy that was running

3:03:58

he was on parole already stealing a mercedes and he turned the taser gun on the

3:04:04

cop the week before

3:04:05

that event the prosecutor said yes when faced with a uh the deadly force of a

3:04:11

taser gun deadly force

3:04:13

is justified now since the the guy with the taser was black and the cop was

3:04:18

white now the same

3:04:20

prosecutor said there's no reason to shoot a man with a taser gun because it

3:04:24

can only cause temporary

3:04:25

harm all right don't ask why don't ask why a guy would lie first of all that

3:04:30

that's not logical here's

3:04:32

here's why there is no logic if someone shoots you with a taser then they have

3:04:37

your gun because if

3:04:38

you're tased then they have your gun yes and if you're unarmed michael brown

3:04:41

and you're attacking

3:04:42

this cop you're unarmed until you get the cop's gun and statistically you will

3:04:46

he will kill him with

3:04:47

the cop's gun you must neutralize this person i just don't understand you will

3:04:51

never understand it's

3:04:52

not to be understood because you're a good man and you're good it causes evil

3:04:57

to be confusing so just

3:04:59

let it be confusing so much going on that's so crazy that it makes your head

3:05:03

hurt when you hear about

3:05:05

like them essentially like allowing people to come across the border from mexico

3:05:10

they're trying to

3:05:11

stop it now apparently biden is going to reinstate trump's stay in mexico

3:05:15

policy holy

3:05:16

which he criticized and called racist a little too late and now there's such an

3:05:21

influx of people coming

3:05:22

in from the mexican border that they're trying to do something about it but

3:05:25

they're moving these people

3:05:26

to all these different states at the same time they're trying to say that

3:05:30

having an id to vote

3:05:31

is racist which at the same time they're saying you have to have an id to show

3:05:35

that you've been

3:05:36

tested for covet at the same time or that you've been vaccinated for covet but

3:05:40

at the same time they're

3:05:41

not vaccinating these people who they're letting into the country it is wild

3:05:45

which is why i never ask

3:05:47

why but i ask why my brain my brain tells me that it is so bizarre it's so

3:05:53

bizarre so illogical it is so

3:05:56

wrong that you just old yeller brings you the newspaper and your slippers he

3:06:03

saves you from the

3:06:04

rattlesnake and the cougar hug him kiss him give him a bone you wake up one

3:06:11

morning an old yeller's

3:06:12

foaming at the mouth it's gonna hurt but you're gonna have to shoot the

3:06:16

motherfucker because he's

3:06:17

got rabies because logic should rule the day and if you try to ask why anything

3:06:22

from the left

3:06:23

you'll have an aneurysm because the there is no answer but don't you think that

3:06:27

there's something

3:06:28

to asking why because if you can at least show the path of corruption that led

3:06:36

to these district

3:06:37

attorneys that are willing to let out violent criminals that threaten everybody's

3:06:40

health

3:06:41

and safety and if you could show that to people that have been in support of

3:06:46

more lenient policies

3:06:47

in terms of like prosecuting criminals and you could show them that this is

3:06:52

what's going on and that

3:06:53

this is somehow or another there's it's almost like it's engineered if and but

3:06:58

that this will cause

3:07:00

people to question things and maybe make people more aware of how these people

3:07:06

are that are making these

3:07:07

laws are the people are that are enforcing these laws or not enforcing these

3:07:11

laws i will give you

3:07:12

the benefit of the doubt that the question why may facilitate an inquiry into

3:07:19

the origins of this evil

3:07:21

and corruption it's going to open people's eyes and what they call red pill

3:07:24

them right i have found

3:07:26

more effective just spotlighting the cockroaches identifying their insanity and

3:07:33

let's just talk left

3:07:34

versus right my brother and i have this unbelievable friction right now because

3:07:39

he hated trump to such

3:07:41

a degree that he called me the maniac and i love you jeff i truly love my

3:07:45

brother he's a great man

3:07:48

so you hated trump if so that means you're siding with this evil force that's

3:07:56

taken over our government

3:07:58

now so someone explain to me and give me an example of where open borders

3:08:03

brought quality of life you

3:08:06

can't tell me where engineered recidivism and the unleashing of the most evil

3:08:13

savages

3:08:15

in the human race onto our streets is benefiting quality and my i could go

3:08:21

right down the list

3:08:23

the left's agenda i don't need to know why they're doing it i just need to

3:08:30

identify that they are doing

3:08:32

it and how innocent lives are being lost look at the prosecutor in waukesha who's

3:08:39

on record that i know my

3:08:42

diverting prosecution will cause the loss of innocent lives that's quite a

3:08:48

statement

3:08:49

he said my this is the guy that let the guy out for a thousand dollars my

3:08:54

choice ran over 50 people

3:08:55

and jamie will put it up on the screen my choice my decision said the

3:09:00

prosecutor in waukesha

3:09:01

a great community i love those people i've been performing wisconsin for over

3:09:07

60 years so he said he knew

3:09:08

that it would cause a loss of life he said my diversionary prosecution diverting

3:09:13

prosecution

3:09:14

would cause the loss of innocent life but here's the clincher and don't ask why

3:09:18

but i stand by

3:09:20

my decision that is the same thing as saying i want innocent lives lost

3:09:30

don't ask why that's just don't you also think there's a political climate

3:09:34

there's a political

3:09:35

climate of police reform and of justice reform and this is you know i'm all for

3:09:40

i'm all for

3:09:42

letting innocent people get out of jail that you know the innocence project's

3:09:46

done amazing work exposing

3:09:47

where corrupt cops they got to put people in jail for corrupt systems did not

3:09:52

in corrupt systems put

3:09:53

people in jail for crimes they did not commit horror but when someone is like

3:09:56

that guy who ran over those

3:09:58

people that guy was a tortured soul he's a horrible human being like it's it's

3:10:03

clear if you pay

3:10:04

attention dangerous dangerous they let him out and he committed a horrendous

3:10:09

evil that is

3:10:11

fucked and i don't think it's a right or a left thing here's the thing about

3:10:15

open borders you know

3:10:16

you think about the left who's more left than bernie sanders it's about as left

3:10:20

as it gets right yeah

3:10:21

jamie go to my twitter go to my twitter because there's a conversation

3:10:26

with uh ezra klein who's also like super left who's talking to bernie sanders i

3:10:30

believe it's from

3:10:31

2015. well i admit they have sanders but no bernie sanders has an a fascinating

3:10:37

take on open borders

3:10:38

and i think a lot of people be shocked to hear this with the thoughts of today

3:10:41

like because if today

3:10:42

in this climate if you say anything against open borders you're you're some

3:10:47

kind of a racist and a

3:10:48

monster right listen listen to this because it's fascinating just press clear

3:10:51

something that is in what you

3:10:54

said about being a democratic socialist is a more international view but i have

3:10:58

seen the global

3:10:59

poverty that seriously it leads you to conclusions that in the u.s are

3:11:03

considered out of political

3:11:05

bounds things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit even up

3:11:10

to the up to a

3:11:11

level of open borders about sharply increasing open borders that's a koch

3:11:15

brothers proposal

3:11:16

the idea of course i mean that's a right-wing proposal which says essentially

3:11:22

there is no united

3:11:23

states but anybody it would make a lot of global poor richer wouldn't it and

3:11:26

make everybody in

3:11:27

america poor then you're doing away with with the concept of a nation state and

3:11:31

i don't think

3:11:32

there's any country on the world which believes in that if you believe in a

3:11:38

nation state or in a

3:11:39

country called the united states or uk or denmark or any other country you have

3:11:43

an obligation in

3:11:45

my view to do everything we can to help poor people what right-wing people in

3:11:49

this country would love

3:11:50

is an open border policy bringing all kinds of people who work for two or three

3:11:53

dollars an hour

3:11:54

that would be great for them i don't believe in that i think we have to raise

3:11:57

wages in this country

3:11:58

i think we have to do everything that we can to create the millions of jobs you

3:12:02

know what

3:12:03

youth unemployment in the united states of america today if you're white a

3:12:06

white kid high school

3:12:07

graduate 33 percent a hispanic 36 percent african american 51 percent you think

3:12:12

we should open the

3:12:13

borders and bring in a lot of low-wage workers what do you think maybe we

3:12:16

should try to get jobs for those kids

3:12:18

so i think from a moral responsibility we've got to do work with the rest of

3:12:21

the industrialized world

3:12:22

to uh to address the problems of international poverty but you don't do that by

3:12:28

making people in this

3:12:29

country even how amazing is that it's amazing but i give him credit for a rare

3:12:35

maybe one-time hiccup

3:12:37

of sense but within that rare one-time hiccup of sense about borders he tried

3:12:43

to convince somebody not me

3:12:46

that it's a right-wing policy of open borders well i think you just thought

3:12:50

that because you could get

3:12:51

a lot of cheap labor to come in and you could pay them as little as possible

3:12:55

except that the evidence

3:12:56

is irrefutable and inescapable that the open borders is a direct result of barack

3:13:01

obama and and

3:13:02

joe biden and the left it's a left thing it is it certainly is now it certainly

3:13:08

is now i mean what's

3:13:10

what's happening now is certainly the way the way people are looking at it now

3:13:13

is a direct result of

3:13:14

this idea that to not have open borders is somehow racist to want to stop

3:13:19

people that are coming in

3:13:21

here and i want people to do better i i want people that want to come into this

3:13:24

country and work hard

3:13:25

i love immigration opportunity i'm all for immigration i'm all for banking i'm

3:13:30

not for bank robbing right

3:13:32

and i'm all right see but that's just this is just fascinating that ideologically

3:13:37

things have

3:13:37

shifted so much that like what the parameters are of like what's what is

3:13:42

acceptable points that you

3:13:44

could talk about and the way you could say it if someone tried to talk like

3:13:47

that on the left today

3:13:49

they they would say this is a alt-right person how old how old is that 2015.

3:13:54

isn't that amazing

3:13:55

six years later the world's gone wacky it's social media yeah social media and

3:14:00

these echo chambers of

3:14:01

these kids that get right out of universities or in in universities right now

3:14:04

and then get out and

3:14:05

they're in these social justice warrior echo chambers and they just spout out

3:14:10

this and they

3:14:12

they do without any understanding of what the ramifications are of what they're

3:14:17

doing when he's

3:14:18

saying that this is a koch brothers idea if you tried to say that today people

3:14:22

would laugh in your

3:14:23

face yeah because what the because it's laughable yeah but what he's saying i

3:14:27

understand his perspective

3:14:29

he's saying that and he's looking at it from this cartoonish version of what a

3:14:33

right-wing person is

3:14:35

the cartoonish version meaning this heartless person who wants slaves you want

3:14:39

people to work for pennies

3:14:40

so wrong it's so false it's just false false false false false but they have to

3:14:45

go to that outrageous

3:14:47

dishonest misrepresentation to make their point because bernie is a communist

3:14:52

and and i've never

3:14:54

i don't care if he supported buying me ammo he'd still be a communist would

3:14:58

probably just a tactic

3:15:00

to try to make a to weasel his way into a believability factor because overall

3:15:05

all of these leftists

3:15:07

the media academia big tech when they censor the recommendation of how people

3:15:13

can get healthy when

3:15:14

it's been proven from a doctor i don't need to ask why it's bad they're bad

3:15:19

people yeah well that that

3:15:21

this this the coveted narrative is the most insane so joe if i was in charge

3:15:25

and i am in charge of my

3:15:27

life yes i'm in charge of my life i'm the authority nobody has authority over

3:15:31

me now i obey the laws but

3:15:33

i'd like to think that the laws that i obey came from we the people for safe

3:15:37

secure um

3:15:39

compassionate um pleasurable quality of life perspectives yeah um my son rocco

3:15:49

all my kids

3:15:50

my grandkids my brother and sister my incredible wife shemaine shemaine i love

3:15:54

you so much it's

3:15:56

it's deep into the realm of stupid i love you so much my band my crew my linda

3:16:02

been my personal

3:16:03

assistant for 33 years oh linda i love you so much and doug my manager for 40

3:16:09

some years give it a lot

3:16:11

of shout outs yeah i do and i love these people that what's your what's your

3:16:15

experience and you invited

3:16:17

me i'm them i'm that i'm the mouth and effervescence dare i say of the positive

3:16:28

quality smart cocky

3:16:31

hard-working critical thinking buoyant energized people in my life all the

3:16:41

people in my life all my

3:16:43

friends i'm doing a ted nugent greasy speakeasy at tucker hall in waco on saturday

3:16:50

december 4th

3:16:51

with johnny cutts on drums and johnny big on bass with calvin ross lone star

3:16:56

music yeah i'm

3:16:56

getting a lot of shout outs because my life would be meaningless without the

3:17:00

people i'm shouting out

3:17:01

to right we're getting somewhere though and yes we're getting somewhere that my

3:17:06

perspective and how

3:17:07

i manage my life you can't call it right wing you call it sensible and

3:17:13

thoughtful that's the problem

3:17:16

isn't it that there is a right wing and a left wing because i think a lot of

3:17:19

people are in the middle

3:17:20

a lot of people are i think i believe me when i and i i would like your take on

3:17:26

it i'm a middle guy i got

3:17:28

gay friends and black friends and trans friends and i can get friends how many

3:17:33

transfers i got at the

3:17:35

last nra convention i had these trans guys coming up to me i guess they were

3:17:39

guys i don't know

3:17:39

they love me they hug me and they love that i stand up for their freedom self-defense

3:17:45

and first

3:17:46

amendment and and people on this i would love to see what this country would be

3:17:51

like without any

3:17:52

censorship on the internet i really would i'd be zero i would be fascinated to

3:17:56

be way better than this

3:17:57

with if you could express yourself with no limitations on social media i mean i

3:18:03

don't mean like doxing

3:18:05

people giving people's addresses you can't threaten right but what i do mean is

3:18:10

if you could argue your

3:18:12

position freely without any worry of being pulled from the internet because

3:18:16

that has happened to so many

3:18:18

people you know like there's so many people whose voices have been completely

3:18:23

silenced and there's people

3:18:25

that are famous that have had their voices silenced and there's people that you've

3:18:28

never heard of

3:18:28

that for whatever reason they said something that someone didn't agree with so

3:18:32

they just banned them

3:18:33

it's unbelievable it's so wrong it's fascinating because just like with mike

3:18:37

hart this thing with

3:18:38

it's just vitamin d unbelievable there's things like that you know there was a

3:18:41

thing called the unity

3:18:43

2020 project that brett weinstein tried to put together and the idea was to

3:18:47

bring people from the left

3:18:48

and the right there were sensible people the idea was to bring someone like dan

3:18:51

crenshaw and tulsi gabbard bring them

3:18:53

together and create this third party a unity party right they banned them from

3:18:57

twitter for that they banned

3:18:59

them from twitter there was no threats there was no violence there was no spamming

3:19:02

there was nothing

3:19:03

it was just a position that they thought could endanger the chances of the

3:19:07

democrats winning yes so they

3:19:10

justified pulling them and censoring them from the internet what would it be

3:19:13

like if people could have

3:19:14

these free conversations just talk about things and i think you know we we

3:19:19

could find a lot of common

3:19:22

ground if we could do that you do that and we salute you for that but have you

3:19:26

ever had a hardcore

3:19:27

communist leftist che Guevara fan on i've had bernie on yeah but does he i love

3:19:34

bernie does he hold

3:19:35

back still to the no he didn't hold back at all i i i think bernie is a good

3:19:39

person i think he has good

3:19:41

values and good ideas i just think he lives in a different world but how can

3:19:45

you find good in a

3:19:47

communist i don't think it's a communist agenda i think he calls himself a

3:19:51

democratic socialist and

3:19:53

the idea is doing better for the people the working people in the working

3:19:58

families and making sure

3:20:00

that people can't take advantage of these people by not paying them a fair wage

3:20:04

this has always been

3:20:05

this position i'm that's my position yeah but his original is to look at things

3:20:09

like speculative

3:20:10

trading and take a small percentage of that less than a fraction of a penny off

3:20:15

of these crazy stock

3:20:17

deals that they're doing where they're using algorithms take that and using it

3:20:21

for infrastructure

3:20:22

using it for education using it for healthcare i mean i don't know if it would

3:20:26

work great concept

3:20:27

i'm not the guy great i'm not an economist i'm not a politician i'm a fucking

3:20:32

moron i'm a cage

3:20:33

fighting commentator who's also a stand-up comedian you know i'm not that those

3:20:36

are quite the credentials

3:20:38

by the way strange almost as good as a guitar player yeah and i'm a bow hunting

3:20:41

fan all right

3:20:42

but let me comment on that so so that's his perspective that helped a little

3:20:46

guy to take

3:20:47

a little tiny little piece uh some crumbs as i said in the godfather 2 um to

3:20:52

wet my beak um

3:20:54

who do we put in charge of that would we put a bureaucracy that's in charge of

3:20:58

alcohol tobacco and fire

3:21:00

arms no no you're right you're right you're right this is untrustworthy well

3:21:03

the problem is anybody

3:21:04

dumb enough to want to do that job the problem is anybody that wants to be in

3:21:08

the position

3:21:09

to control where the money goes these people are almost always in some way or

3:21:13

another

3:21:14

entangled steal it right there's there's entanglements just like where i was

3:21:18

saying my friend

3:21:19

who was working and you know working for these pharmaceutical companies and he

3:21:23

would get deep in with these

3:21:24

company or deep in with these doctors and deep in with the nurses and know

3:21:28

their families it's like

3:21:29

this weird sort of legal corruption this this way that they can infiltrate

3:21:35

these people's lives to

3:21:36

influence them and that's the problem the problem is the size of government it's

3:21:41

just so big and it

3:21:43

has so much power yeah it has way more power than it ever had in the past and

3:21:48

they want more and during

3:21:49

covid those powers have grown here's the pulse i get from my campfires and

3:21:54

again people have to really

3:21:56

think for a minute what this perspective is we're working hard playing hard

3:22:01

american

3:22:02

kickers just people who bust their ass the the people in the arena of the swirling

3:22:07

dust of battle

3:22:08

of the ups and downs of life and they stumble and they dust themselves off and

3:22:13

get back up and try again

3:22:15

maybe they wanted to be a a musician but they couldn't make it so they became a

3:22:19

plumber um but

3:22:20

they're a great plumber and so they didn't get their dream dream but they still

3:22:24

bust their ass to

3:22:25

be in the asset column there's two columns there's the liability column the

3:22:29

asset right so my perspective

3:22:30

is from and again not just this year's but this year it was really quite quite

3:22:36

voluminous quite quite heated

3:22:41

good american families don't trust any of the bureaucracies we don't trust the

3:22:47

cdc

3:22:47

we know that the who is an arm of the communist party we don't trust the fda we

3:22:53

don't trust the usda

3:22:54

and i could give you examples in every instance how they're not trustworthy and

3:22:58

in michigan uh if you

3:22:59

use a feeder you'll uh cause the transmission of uh uh chronic wasting disease

3:23:04

so we must ban the use of

3:23:06

feeders but since the deer hunters didn't get enough deer because they weren't

3:23:09

able to use the

3:23:09

tractors uh the usda comes in with big giant feeders that says usda on it

3:23:14

who could possibly trust that glaring dishonesty and my favorite one is the

3:23:22

recent decision of the fda

3:23:24

where they tried to stop the freedom of information act releasing information

3:23:28

about covid for 55 years

3:23:30

about the vaccines yeah that's a trustworthy maneuver pull that up because it's

3:23:34

something to hold when you

3:23:36

look at it see i don't read or read books but i read this stuff this stuff is

3:23:39

this is so why i've sent

3:23:41

this to doctors and they and i literally sent it to a doctor friend of mine and

3:23:45

her and she's pro vaccine

3:23:47

and her her take was what in the yes yes that was her take so my hardly swears

3:23:53

i'm sharing a take from

3:23:54

hard-working this is reuters by the way folks we don't trust this is reuters

3:23:58

and i believe that

3:23:59

the head guy from reuters is on the board of pfizer which is or that's all you

3:24:03

need to know no no excuse

3:24:04

me on the board of the fda i believe or pfizer maybe but he was recently on the

3:24:09

board i think i'm

3:24:10

wrong they go from pfizer to the fda no no no no the guy from reuters i think

3:24:14

is on the board of pfizer

3:24:15

just check that because i want to make sure i'm right here because i saw this

3:24:19

but it's so but but my

3:24:21

point is it's so egregious that even reuters where the head guy is at the board

3:24:26

of pfizer

3:24:27

put this out and it says wait what question mark fda wants 55 years to process

3:24:34

freedom of information

3:24:35

act request over vaccine data that means they essentially want as much time as

3:24:41

it takes where

3:24:42

everyone who's involved is dead so no one can be held accountable something

3:24:46

like the warren report

3:24:47

maybe yes very similar to the warren report because they just initially

3:24:50

recently rather very recently

3:24:52

stopped releasing all the extended yeah extended it even further they would not

3:24:56

release the transcripts

3:24:58

so i i would like uh all my uh fda if that's the the guy from reuters because i

3:25:04

need to be

3:25:04

clear on this because i don't i don't i'm i'm pretty sure that's i'm right say

3:25:08

what say what it says

3:25:09

the ceo of reuters is on the board for pfizer thank you on the screen and then

3:25:13

meanwhile they'll still

3:25:14

they're still posting that that's how egregious it is it's so egregious that

3:25:18

even even reuters is like

3:25:20

what the are you doing and they their weight what is my what the god damn it

3:25:25

ted it's rampant it's

3:25:27

like they got the uh the uh the not the attorney joy i guess it is the u.s

3:25:31

attorney general um who's

3:25:34

got his fingers in the uh the books that goes to the education system his son

3:25:39

runs the bush his son-in-law

3:25:41

runs the books that are being sold to the the education systems across america

3:25:46

and he's banning

3:25:48

alternative uh education material because his son-in-law has a deal with the

3:25:53

teachers union well how

3:25:55

about this crazy one how about the hunter and biden laptop is that the most

3:25:58

crazy thing ever they they

3:26:00

literally banned new york post from the one of the oldest newspapers in the

3:26:06

country they banned the new

3:26:08

york post articles from being shared on twitter and i know you're inquisitive

3:26:12

and you're you're uh suspicious

3:26:14

but don't ask why there is no answer they're just all right horrible i'm not

3:26:18

asking why anymore i'm

3:26:20

going to take off a whole day for the rest of the day i'm not asking why go go

3:26:25

ted nuja we've been

3:26:26

talking for more than three hours have we really yes jeez i'm just gonna play

3:26:29

us out with a riff will you

3:26:30

give us a riff and wrap this bad boy up i love riffs listen man i'm glad we did

3:26:34

this again yeah i appreciate you

3:26:36

very much you're always a lot of fun to be around man well again i i love life

3:26:41

um i thank god every

3:26:42

day i know you do you're you're a super positive person you really are and i

3:26:47

like to i like to

3:26:48

maximize the good and fight against the evil and i do really appreciate the

3:26:51

fact that you've been a

3:26:53

musician for all these decades and you so obviously love it and you've been a

3:26:58

bow hunter for all these

3:26:59

years all my life obviously love it i probably picked up the guitar and the bow

3:27:04

at the age of

3:27:06

three or four and i am a i am a fan of enthusiasm i love enthusiasm i love

3:27:11

people who love what they do

3:27:14

so please ted nugent play us out i'm a fan of enthusiasm

3:27:21

see i don't know what that is i've never played that before beautiful

3:27:41

so

3:27:45

so

3:27:49

so

3:27:55

so

3:28:02

so

3:28:04

so

3:28:04

so

3:28:12

so

3:28:12

so

3:28:21

so

3:28:30

so

3:28:38

so

3:28:49

so

3:28:49

so

3:28:51

so

3:29:02

so

3:29:04

so

3:29:14

so

3:29:16

there was a time

3:29:31

there was

3:29:46

there was a time

3:29:46

when i didn't care

3:29:48

nothing nothing nothing matter to me i swear

3:29:52

there was something happened

3:29:58

and i came alive

3:29:59

and i came alive

3:30:01

and i found you

3:30:03

and

3:30:05

i found fire

3:30:07

and i never

3:30:09

stopped believing

3:30:11

and i can't

3:30:14

and i can't

3:30:16

stop

3:30:16

and i got a dream

3:30:22

and i got a dream

3:30:22

and i got a dream

3:30:24

like martin luther king

3:30:26

in my heart

3:30:30

i got a dream

3:30:34

and i got a dream

3:30:36

and i got a dream

3:30:38

i got a dream

3:30:40

cause i got a dream

3:30:45

i swear to god

3:30:47

and i never

3:30:49

stop

3:30:51

believing

3:30:54

and i can't

3:30:56

stop

3:30:58

dreaming

3:31:02

and i know

3:31:03

and i know

3:31:03

many gave all

3:31:06

on my knees

3:31:11

i humbly fall

3:31:14

i see the crosses

3:31:17

and old glory

3:31:20

and that's why nothing

3:31:24

will ever stop me

3:31:28

and i never

3:31:29

stop

3:31:31

believing

3:31:33

and i can't

3:31:36

stop

3:31:38

dreaming

3:31:42

yeah

3:31:58

ted

3:32:09

nudja ladies

3:32:10

and gentlemen

3:32:10

goodbye america

3:32:12

and the rest of the world

3:32:13

we love you

3:32:14

live it up

3:32:15

motherfuckers

3:32:16

be nice to each other

3:32:17

bye

3:32:18

kisses and hugs

3:32:28

bye