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Charlamagne tha God is a radio presenter, television personality, and author.
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Andrew Schulz is a stand-up comic, actor, and podcaster. He's the host of the "Flagrant" podcast with Akaash Singh, and the "Brilliant Idiots" podcast with Charlamagne Tha God. His latest special, "Infamous," is available on YouTube.www.theandrewschulz.com
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That's why the positions that were in media, you have to be very responsible with these positions. Malcolm X said that. Malcolm X said the person who controls the media controls the minds of the masses. So you have to be very, very responsible. I remember when you used to get a lot of flack for putting on just different voices that people didn't agree with. Yeah, still do. And they'd be like, why are you giving these people a platform? A platform. I'm like, yo, everybody deserves to be heard, I guess. Someth- not everybody, but just I want to know how people think too. I want to, even if I don't agree with them. Especially people you don't agree with. A conversation isn't a cosign. And I think that's what we often mistake. Well, in this day and age too, especially on the left, so many people are talking about de-platforming. They want to de-platform people. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like it either. I saw people getting mad at LaVaugh ball this week. You know what I'm saying? Because of the comments he made to Miley on ESPN, which I didn't, I didn't. He just was like, she was like, hey, let's shift gears. You can shift gears with me anytime. But he didn't, he said it just like that. You can shift gears with me anytime. He didn't say, you can shift gears with me anytime. It was a placeholder. If she had said, hey, let's switch it up, he would say, hey, you can switch it up with me anytime. That's all. But every people was like, oh, they need to stop putting them on ESPN. I'm like, wait a minute. Literally just last year, y'all was saying he was the drunk uncle at the picnic and you love him or you hate him. He's good entertainment. But now, because he said that, you want to take him off. And I'm like, we got to stop doing that. Because guess what? Every single one of us is going to say something that is going to offend somebody at some point. Yeah. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't have a platform. I'm not calling for nobody to get killed. Well, it also makes things fun when people say stupid shit sometimes. You know, when Stephen Smith was going off about Andrew Wie's winning the title and about it looks like Butterbean, this is a disgrace, never his man. I'm like, the guy is speaking the way he would speak if you were around him. Do you got to appreciate that? Unless you want everybody to be Ryan Seacrest. You should fucking appreciate, not there's anything wrong with Ryan Seacrest, but you should appreciate someone who's just giving you what they really think. Yes. And we do, that's why he's so popular. We pretend to hate it, but the reality is we're going to keep listening. The second he gets a ring. This is also attention. A lot of people are like, oh, all right. That's America feeds off of that shit. That's why Donald Trump is president. That's why the Kardashians are still viable. That's why the Kardashians are the first family. Okay, fucking America. Drama every year. Every year they find a new piece of drama. Once shit gets calm and cool, the show ends. So they need a new piece of drama. Oh, you got cheese on this year? Who's going to have a baby? You're going to be the baby, but whatever it is every year. Hey, you're going to chop your dick off? But you know what I respect her for with Kim? She's getting people out of jail. She's going for it. Legitimately. I can go back before that. I respect the Kardashians because if we really, really pay attention to the Kardashians over the past 10 years, first of all, you got to put them up there with some of the greatest dynasties of all time. I'm talking about this is Lakers. This is Patriots. This is fucking. They've made billions. Yes. Billions with a B. So many social conversations have started because of the Kardashians. You're talking about interracial relationships. You're talking about the transgender thing. You're talking about drug use, mental health with Kanye. You have plastic surgery. They did change the shape of American women. They changed asses. They changed asses. They made that whole fat relocation thing popular. They suck it out of your waist, turn your waist into this little thing and turn your ass into this ridiculous platform. Well, that'd be for real. Kim learned that from black women though. Because people forget Kim. But that's a by a low. You would look at someone who really has it. Yes. It's different. Absolutely. You see a woman who has a big ass naturally. It looks like it belongs on her. It's a different thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have thick legs. They're fucking genetically superior. They're built like a turkey. They're built sexy. Yeah, Kim's inspiration. People don't remember Kim came up in the black circuit. She did King Magazine and Smooth Magazine. That's right. You know what I'm saying? That's right. She was on Wendy Williams' radio show earlier. That's what I better. I better what I was doing radio with Wendy. He knew her before she was ever on anything. When she was, who's assistant? Someone's assistant. She was Paris Hilton. Paris Hilton's assistant. She's the organized closet for Paris Hilton. I got an old picture like me and Kim from like 2006. She looks so different. Wow. But I will say she always had that vision. She used to always say I'm gonna do what Paris is doing. Times 100. Wow. She did it. She motherfucking did it. The secret. She used the secret. The secret is black dick. That's the secret. Smoke a black cock. It's amazing that that kicked her off because it used to be the kiss of death if a girl did porn. That was the end. Lisa Ann. Yeah. She was the one to break that down. Well, was it her or Jenna Jameson? I think Jenna Jameson was the first one to become actually popular outside of porn. Oh, I thought you meant like the first person to break like the racial barrier in porn. Oh, yeah. She was the first to break the racial barrier, but I mean doing porn, period. Oh, yeah. Where you could be a celeb outside of porn. You talk about radio. It's not too many people that came up off celebrity sex tapes. It's only few and far between that really popped off. Yeah, who made it off of sex tape? Do you remember when girls were showing their pussy? They were showing their pussy on purpose. Remember when they would get out of cars? And the camera just happened to be down where their pussy is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How the fuck did you not know that camera was down near your pussy? They set that up. Yeah, that became a thing. That's a lot of confidence too. They were climbing out of their cars, showing their pussy. Not a lot of witch fingers, Joe. What is happening? Yeah, not a lot of witch fingers. That's all the more reason you gotta respect Kim K, bro. That girl that was hopping out of cars and you could see her vagina and was doing sex tapes is out here getting prisoners free. She is doing that. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck if she's best friends with Donald Trump. I don't care. See, that's my thing, right? If you care about prison reform, if you care about criminal justice reform, you should be happy that these people are getting out. If you're worried about, oh, she's doing it in the White House with Donald Trump, who gives a shit? You think the guy who just did 15 years gives a fuck for nothing. Nothing cares when the president lets him out? And she doesn't have to do this. She could just be buying cars and getting her nails done. She's choosing to spend her time to get these people that are unjustly accused and convicted and get them released. And Trump, like her or not, he's listening to her and he's helping her. But you know why? Because he's a celebrity. He understands the PR angle, yeah. So you keep sending all these politicians to talk to a celebrity. That shit goes over his head. You gotta send another celebrity to get in his ear because he understands that type of language. He just understands their power. He understands where their reach is. He knows that Kim K doing something is way more valuable than some random Democratic congressperson.