What It's Really Like to Train With David Goggins

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Cameron Hanes

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Cameron Hanes is a master bowhunter, outdoorsman, elite athlete, author, and host of the podcast “Keep Hammering with Cameron Hanes.” www.cameronhanes.com

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You can make anything taste pretty damn good. That's what Jen, she cooked something up in bear camp this year. It was bear. I think it was loin maybe. I don't know. But anyway, cooked it for 12 or 20 hours or something crazy. God, it was so good. There's no back ham maybe. Oh yeah, that's right. I remember that. Yeah, she was talking about that. So good. Yeah, she marinated it. Yeah, people say it. Spices. People who say, well, do you eat bear, have a plate of Jen Rivet's bear meat? My God, that's all they want. Well, you know what, um, Ronella was talking about on his podcast that when the pioneers came out west, they were shooting deers for their skins and bears for the meat. Really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, they were shooting bears for meat, black bears. Yeah. That they preferred black bears for their meat. It's a delicious animal. Oh, it is. People don't know. No, it is. They don't know. And they think you're lying for some reason. You can't eat bear. Yeah. You don't know what you're talking about. If Jen Rivet cooks you some bear, I defy you. I defy you if you like to eat meat. Her stir fry? You'd have to be a bear stir fry? Yeah. That is fantastic. You'd have to be a pathological liar to say it wasn't good. If you don't like meat, maybe you won't like it. But if you do like meat, you'd be like, wow, this is good. Though I say it tastes like, like a, it's almost like a cow fucked up deer. Mm-hmm. It's like a combination of like venison. And beef. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the way she cooks it is, you know, I think there's a typical taste of bear or I was like, people always say who haven't had it like that, they say it's greasy. Because it's more like porkish, kind of. Yeah. There's some fat in it. It's like, it's just different. But the way she does it in the trailer or stir fry, it's incredible. It's incredible. Yeah. It's a really delicious animal. Speaking of that hunt, that's what I want to get Goggins on his first hunt, just like I took you on your first bow hunt. So that's, that's, that's where you're going to take him to John Jen's place. Yeah. That'd be perfect. Try to get a bear. Yeah. Good, good first bow kill. Has he shot a bow at all? Yeah, I got him a bow. Has he been shooting? I don't know if he had, he shot when he came and worked out with me. He's got the best fucking Instagram stories ever. Oh my God. Those videos. I know. I love it. Nothing ever gets done by being a bitch. I was, I was reading one of his text messages he sent me yesterday. He just sends the most ridiculous check. I knew one. You showed me the one, you showed me one like not too long ago is. Every couple of months I got a new one. Yeah, yeah. I love it. I love it. They wake you up too, man. I love it. They wake me up. I start doing chin ups as soon as I get those messages. I love his attitude. There's a few people who, um, I love them as people, like, you know, just, they're good people, just hardworking, but I'm in love with their spirit. Yes. It's like his spirit, Jaco spirit. Yeah. Their spirit. Their spirit. It's like, it's, it's amazing. Yeah. It's, it's, and he's like one of those guys that it's never going to waiver. Right. You know what you're going to get. You get inspiration from it. I do. I get fuel from it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just, even having the chance to train with them, it's like, man, just feel lucky to, to see him in action and see him change from David to Goggins. Right. And it, and it happened. It's like he becomes the Hulk. Oh my God. It happened. I watched it and it's like, I thought, well, maybe this was just kind of like a whatever, maybe just a thing, but it was real. It's like when, when shit got hard, he got into this different zone and it was like, he got better. He got better. Really? Got tougher. Yeah, he did. It was like, so what'd you guys do? You ran like 30 miles. Yeah. 35. 35 miles. And lifted. Yeah. And, and we shot bows too, but all of that same day, but during that race, it was kind of cold and snowy. I think it was spitting snow, but rainy. It was soaking wet. And he, I remember like a mile 22, he, something was happening with his feet and he had to take his shoes off and untie his shoes. And it's like, normally that's not a good sign. I mean, if people are messing with their shoes, 22 miles into 30, it's like, God, this is not, you know, cause you know, your feet are going to get torn up. Right. So it's like, you just kind of, your feet, they could be bleeding torn up. It's like, yeah, this is what happens. And he's done a lot. So I'm like, man, I don't know. I said, well, I said, I'm just going to kind of keep, keep chugging along and, you know, get it figured out and catch up and we'll go from there. And I thought, man, there's a chance that maybe I won't see him again, but no, sure as shit. Here he comes. He catches back up. Me and my brother were up there and he, he went from 22. He got in this different groove. And then I actually, my calf on this race kind of locked up and it's like going up this last grade, we'd do one more summit and I couldn't run it. And I'm like, he took off. I was just kind of power hiking it and I get up there and had a cameraman up there. And David was like, he was in his Goggins mode by that time. This was towards the end of the race. We had like two miles left. It's like 33 miles in and he, I asked a cameraman up there. I'm like, Hey, I said, how did Goggins look? And he's like, uh, well, he had a shirt off and he was, and it was crazy. Coleraine, he's had a shirt off and he was saying, they don't fucking know me. I'm like, who's he is like, they don't, they don't know me son and doing saying all this stuff. I said, who was he saying that to? And he's like, there's nobody up here. So he has like imaginary enemies that he's fighting against. And that's, but that's, that's real. And so he did and he got better and he fricking just crushed the second half of that race. And same thing happened lifting. He liked the more reps we did, the better he got. And like at the end, when we had done so many reps and like we did this one last thing of doing yeah, we did like 95 reps of, or no, a hundred reps of right there on that incline bench is only 95 pounds, but we had done 600 reps before he ended up on the last set did more than he did on the first set. That's insane. Yeah. And he's saying, he starts yelling right here somewhere and it makes some volume. 15, shut that muscle down. 16, come on, get it. 17, they don't know me son. 18, get it. 19, yeah. 20, you got some more in you. 21. Yeah. Get again. Come on. We want to see it. Good. 22. Who's going to carry the boats in the logs? That's you buddy. Come on 23. Come on. Who's carrying the boats? Who's carrying the boats? What the fuck? Who's one more to carry the boats? You're going to do it. You're going to do it. You're going to do it. You did it. Yeah. Who's going to carry the fucking boat? This is that international fitness, just a regular gym and people were like, what the hell? What is this guy? He got into that zone and it's like, so whatever he says about who's David that he was Goggins, when he gets to Goggins, dude, look out. It's like a whole, it's a different person that's unstoppable. It's real. It's real. It's real. I saw it and he's like, it's amazing. Well that's how he broke the world chin up record. Yeah. I mean, you have to be a complete psychopath to be able to do chin ups for 24 hours a day. And then, so we went, we went after that and we went and watch UFC got pizza and, and it was getting late by that time. So we'd run 35 miles. We shot bows. We lifted weights pretty full day, eight pizza, had a couple chocolate chip cookies, watch UFC pretty good night. And then so he's like, yeah, he goes, I got to get, get back to my hotel. I got still got a stretch couple hours of stretching. And, and my wife goes, Oh, you're not going to stretch it. Just you can miss stretching tonight. It's like, what are you talking about? David have David Goggins miss stretching where that's like, you know, taking the night off. Right. So he does some hardcore stretching and he does for hours. And then that's just kind of his routine. And then he got up the next day and from his hotel ran 15 miles. So people can say whatever they want. The dude is as real as they get and a complete savage, a hundred percent. It's not, it's like, you can say whatever you want. Cause on Instagram, you never know if what you see is what you get. It's he's amazing. Yeah, he's real. There's no way he could be doing it as long as he's doing it without someone would expose him. Yeah. He would expose himself. Yeah. Well, that's the real deal. And that's why it's so special. That's why it's so inspirational. Yeah. It's because like, that's all mental strength and he's all super honest about how he used to be. Yeah. My brain was soft. I was soft. It's helped me because I've thought that I'm like, when I get tired, I mean, I take inspiration from a lot of people, but it's like, I'm like, God, I need to have that little piece of Goggins, you know, to beat, to get in that it's, it's gotta be mental. It's like, it's, he just puts himself there and he struggles, but then gets to this next level and it's like, how it's just, he just makes himself go there. He also has figured out now how to maintain his body, which is very important. Yeah. You know, he, that's why he's into that stretching because he's had some like pretty significant muscle issues in the past. His psoas muscle, like locked up on him. Yeah. But now he realizes like there's, you know, there's a maintenance involved too. Yeah. You gotta treat that thing like a vehicle. Right. You gotta take care of that vehicle. Yeah, he does. And he's, I mean, it was like, I'll never forget sharing that day with him. Never. I mean, it changed my life. I swear to God.