How Cameron Hanes Became a Marathon Runner | Joe Rogan

Well you ran more than you bargained. Yeah that was far. I mean I asked the guys there, I said, hey how far is it if I go from here to here? And they're like, oh, seven miles. No, it was like 15. It was a grind and humid, oh my God. Well luckily you're accustomed to that. Yeah, yeah, no it was good. Well I was talking to a friend of mine, you know, and I was saying, well you know Cam, when he first started running, he had a hard time running a mile. And they were like, what? Like yeah, that's how it works. Yeah, it was, yeah. You know and I was, when I first started, I mean I was okay in high school, you know, because I did all the sports. And we'd do maybe a 10K during the summer. But then after high school, then I was just like, I thought it was really cool, I could buy beer. So I was like 21, I'd swing by Riverview Market on the way home and buy a six pack of tall boys. And you know, I thought that was cool. I could pound some, you know, Coors Light. And I'm like, oh, I'm a stud now. And then I started, you know, to get fat. And I'm like, I didn't, nobody cared. It was like, I didn't have, I wasn't living up to any expectation. I was actually living down to expectations. And so I went through a phase there where I was just like not healthy. I was still hunting, but no real sense of, I don't know, I didn't have, I wasn't accountable for anything or to anybody. Didn't have any high expectations. So I'm like, whatever. And I remember I signed up for the Butte Butte 10K. And I got there to Fifth Street Public Market just about five miles. I had another mile left and I quit. And I'm just like, this sucks. And so that was, I think from there, I'm like, nobody feels good. You know, you don't feel good when you're in that place. So it was a slow grind, but I got to where I just kept doing more and more and more. And then I did my first marathon like in 2002. When you quit the next day, how shitty did you feel? I felt shitty all the time. So it wasn't like, I mean, it wasn't, you know, I was living with four guys and we'd just drink beer all the time. And, you know, I remember this one guy got DUI, like two DUIs in three weeks. I think both in my truck, at least I wasn't right. I would never drive, you know, I mean, I never, never got caught, but it was just like, just stupid. So it was just like another disappointment. It wasn't, didn't stand out. It was just, there was no success. No, no, it was just, I don't know. I didn't have anything going. It's like, that's where my life was. So it's just like, what changed? I don't know. I was something must've changed because now you're running 240 miles. You're probably the most successful bow hunter on the planet earth. I mean, that's a giant, I mean, you have 800,000 Instagram followers. Something fucking changed. Like what changed? How did it go from you being this guy who quit after five miles and you're drinking beer all the time and you're hanging out with a bunch of Nair Duwels. Yeah. And then all of a sudden you are an inspiration to millions of people. Like how does, what's the shift? I think having kids, you know, so got married and then Tanner was born in 93. And then it's like, man, it's not cool being a loser dad. No, it's not. I mean, that's not, that's, it's one thing being a loser, being a loser dad, cause now I'm affecting other people's lives. And so I'm like, I thought, I gotta be an example. You know, I got it. I want my kids, every parent wants their kids to have more than they had and have a better life than they had. And so, you know, my dad wasn't around and, you know, I always remember wanting him around and just, you know, wanting to see him. So I'm like, maybe that. And then it was, I think I wanted my kids, I wanted to challenge them. So I remember my first marathon, I also made Tanner, he was seven and yes, it was 2002, I think. Or he would have been, no, must, yeah. I don't know. Anyway, he was young. I think he just turned eight actually. And I made him do the half marathon. So I ran the marathon. He did the half marathon at eight. Jesus. I did good, got like 202, which is a good half marathon for, especially for an eight year old. So then I started introducing my kids to these challenges cause I'm like, you know, I remember my life growing up and it wasn't comfortable, but not in a positive way. And I'm like, well, I think these kids, if they don't have challenges introduced, they're going to be soft. They're going to have it too easy. So I would, you know, that's why they've run marathons and they've done these things is cause that's kind of how they grew up. So I think it was kind of a combination of being a parent, wanting my kids to have a successful path. And then just saying, I didn't want to be a loser dad. So just kind of evolved from there. Didn't Truett run a hundred miles with you ran. What'd he get to 80, 85 mile? 90, 90 Jesus Christ. Yeah. And he blew up. No, no. His will broke. Yeah. I thought he had a knee issue. Probably. I mean, but yeah, all sorts of shit happens. You know, I mean, you hurt, but no, he, God, it was like, that was just this past summer. And you know, cause running a hundred miles in 24 hours is that's something, I mean, I could never do that at, at he's 22, I think there's no way I could have done that then. I mean, it takes mental, usually don't have that mental strength until you're older, you've been through life and you've been beat down and disappointed and, and had your heart broke. And that's when you get like, Hey, this pain is just temporary. This is for one day. I can get through anything for a day. Well, when you're 22, it's life point of reference. No, it's great. It's been gravy the whole time, but to run a hundred miles in 24 hours is you can tell that to anybody and be like, God dang, congratulations, you know? So he wanted to do that. That was his goal. So I said, all right. I go, if you get to 60 miles in 12 hours, you can grind out 40 in the second 12. And I said, that would be good. So he got to 60 miles in 12 hours on, on pace. Everything was good. And it just too painful. He's like, I think he got 31 miles, maybe, almost 31, I think it was 90 point something. Just, you know, he ended up take, trying to take a couple of naps was in the truck for a while. And I remember I'd be like, so what are we doing? I'd go by the truck. Cause I'd never stopped. Right. And uh, so it's a course. It's a, it's a one loop, 1.1 mile loop. Oh my God. And you do it a hundred times. Right. Do it for 24 hours. And so I'd come by and I'd be, I'd give him a little bit, little while to, to chill out. And uh, but then I'd be like, what are we doing here? And whatever, for whatever reason, he got 90, which is still 90 miles is a long ass way. That's a long ass way. On your feet. That's like San Diego. But it's not a hundred. Oh, it's not Mexico. No, I'm like, so we, we joke around too. Cause I am, you know, I'm supportive, but also I mean, I, I am how I am. So I'm like, I go, God, you couldn't have got 10 more miles, 10 more miles. And you would have been in the a hundred mile club. Cause he, he, I got this little wood chip. It's like the, it's like the smallest little token you could get. It's not even like Goggins coin right here, but it's half the size. It's a wood chip and it says, uh, 100 miles. I'm like, Hey, do you got it? You have a chip like that? Oh no, no, no, no. You only got 90. They don't make 90 mile chips. And so I like we said, it's like, God, the worst part about that is to get those last 10, you got to get the first 90 and that hurts. Right. So I think he's gonna hit his big goal was to get a hundred miles in 24 hour, 24 hours, which he didn't get. And then also qualify for Boston, which he did. So I think we're gonna, um, What do you have to do to qualify for Boston? For his age age group, he had to run under three hours in a marathon. So he ran the Eugene marathon in 257. Wow. So he qualified. That's amazing. Yeah. That's a good run fast. Yeah. Jamie's shaking his head. Yes. Yeah. He ran. That would have been, that's like six 44. That's fast. Miles for 26. That's fucking fast. Yeah. So the world record, they're trying to get under two, right? Under two. Yeah. They're like special shoes and shit. And those guys are amazing. Yeah.