What Advice Did Laird Hamilton Give to Elon Musk?

What's your organ experience? I really believe that to truly be, to have optimum performance and to be optimum, that you have to have the whole, every spoke in the tire. That you need every single spoke. That you have to have a good relations with your family. You gotta have love and you gotta have good things with your kids and you gotta have friends and you gotta have your health and you gotta sleep well and you gotta be hydrated and you gotta work out and you gotta have your business thing and you gotta have, I think you just have to have all these things to really have balance and I think if one of the spokes isn't tight that there's a bump in the wheel and you're just not gonna, I don't truly believe that you're performing at your optimum because your head needs to be clear when you go into your performance, whatever that looks like. I think that's excellent advice. I think that makes a lot of sense and it definitely keeps your mind clear. You know you have your bases covered. Covered. You're not just, you're not here but there but somewhere else. I know I've dealt with not having all the spokes good and I know how that feels and I know when it's good you're clear, you're good. And it's how we're meant to be. I mean we're meant to have that be real clean. We're meant to have that, there be some balance. Balance. Gotta have it. Yeah that's why even overworking. People think that overworking. They think that's a badge of honor. Yeah. Yeah I work my thing and I don't sleep and I'm like, yeah well then you're compromising yourself. I told Elon Musk that. Did you? Yeah. I went to SpaceX one time and I pulled him aside, he was standing out and I go, hey you know you gotta take care of this. Put my hand on his chest. I just go, you gotta take care of this but you gotta take care of you. What'd he say? He just, yeah I don't know if he understood. He's a robot. I don't think he understood. Barely a person. I'm just saying I don't think he, no I don't think he- I say that with all due respect and any- Yeah but I don't think he understood what I meant. I felt like someone like that if they were really taking good care of themselves, getting the right sleep, getting eating the right food, getting a workout, all those things, imagine. Imagine. If they can do what they're doing, burning it on both ends, imagine what they could do fully balanced. Well I don't think he wants to do any more than what he's doing. I just think he's so obsessed with getting Tesla to run correctly. When he was sleeping on the floor of the Tesla factory and working 17 hours a day, I mean that's an insane person. He was just there all day long trying to make it work and obviously it does work. There are amazing cars and everything's- Yeah. It's beneficial that this drive that he has but I agree with you. For overall enjoyment of life, that's not the way to go about it. Well and I think you have a blockage there though too. I think if you can't pull back and look at it from a distance when you're in it, I think you get too detailed and then you can't be ... I think it could be better because of that. I think maybe it'd be profitable. It's hard man. It's a hard fucking business. I mean you're competing against the big boys. Yeah, right. What's interesting is even though they are doing that, he's managed to make something that's so different than anything else. Do you have one? No, I don't. Fuck man, they're crazy. I was reluctant. I told him how to buy one when he did the podcast but I was like, God damn it, I like muscle cars. I like hearing engines. But I drove that thing. I was like, oh, other cars are stupid. They're all stupid. They are. They're archaic compared to that thing. They are. And you see all the companies going that way now. You can see ... I mean we were because my buddy Wildman and I were into electric stuff and there was a guy that had an electric dragster and we went down with this electric dragster and it just smoked any top fuel dragster like beyond. But it didn't make noise so no one wanted to watch it. And you're like, what happened? No smell, no noise, no flames. Right. All the good stuff. No burning gas. No pollution. Yeah, no pollution. People were like, ah, that's no fun. So ... Yeah, but when you drive a Tesla, like I have the Model S, the P100D, I think that's called. When you drive it, it's effortless. Everything just ... You just go where you want to go. Like, I'd like to be over there. It's like a video game. Yeah. Like all of a sudden you're over there. Well, you have to get used to it because I've been in them and driven them. And it's interesting how the body has to acclimate to the acceleration because you're used to that jolting. That's like a roller coaster. That shifting, first gear, second gear, third gear, all that delay. It's like AC versus DC. Right. Normal cars are like AC, a little gap between the power. And when you get that, the body has to get used to the ... I'm still not totally okay with not looking where you're going and just flipping it on autopilot, but I guess that's for the next generation. Well, that's fun on the highway. But I look where I'm going and I keep my hand on the wheel, but it is fun to like shut 10% of your brain off and just let the car kind of handle the speed. The one that does it well. Does it well. Yeah. Well, like I said, I think you need a person who's as obsessed as Elon Musk is to make something like that, but I agree with you. If he wants to enjoy his life. Well, just live longer. Maybe have more ideas. Maybe have more influence. Right, right, right. I am only speaking that way. I just mean in the way of optimizing him, right? Optimizing him because he's so amazing that, okay, let's optimize your amazingness by making you like be healthier. Right. And then you can do more yourself so you can be around longer and maybe do more great things. Right. So it's, it's, again, I, you know, I'm just speaking personally about when you try to look at optimization, right? Like you're here, you only get so long, you know, what are you doing and, and are you really optimizing it by, by, you know, burn it by, by taxing the system and not, not getting all of it that out of it that you, you know, but I guess in a way it's kind of like unhappiness, you know, people use that as a workout. So that's a little, that makes you tired and you're get hungry and you know. Yeah, I guess. There's always that. Well, it's the choices you make, right? Like sometimes you just get stuck in the momentum of the choice that you made and it's very difficult to like take that pause and go, okay, am I doing this the right way? Maybe I need a reset. Maybe we need to just take some time to really consider if this is making me happy and how many years I'm going to be able to do this and sustain it. Yeah. Well, that's a tricky thing. Yeah. Right. So, you know, self, self, you know, analyzing yourself and putting that up is, I think it's easier just to keep going the direction you're going. Sure. Just caffeinate and take some Adderall and keep hitting the gas. Go full speed.