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Forrest Galante is an international wildlife adventurer, conservationist, author of "Still Alive: A Wild Life of Rediscovery" and host on Discovery Channel. www.instagram.com/forrest.galante
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So you like these kind of far out there ideas. How do you like this idea? There's a group of people that say that dragons were real. And I'll explain. So around the same time period, so to speak, and I'm not one of these people, so I'm probably going to get the details wrong a little bit. It's a Matthew McConaughey movie right now. Yeah, seriously. But so around the same time period in China, South America, Africa, all these different Rome, all these places, images depicted people fighting dragons, right? And every dragon was slightly different, but it was all a giant scaly animal that could fly. So when you break that down, you think about the fact that large birds had a hard time being fossilized because their bones are so porous, right? So because they have like hollowish bones, they break down very easily and they don't fossilize. So the group that says this, basically they're saying the evidence is the reason there's no fossils of dragons is because they had bird bones and they were actually very delicate animals. But a handful of these small population of these giant flying lizards existed and basically encompassed all these different countries where they all depicted fighting dragons in their own way and they were all killed off by, you know, knights or whatever it is and then didn't fossilize. So it's like the science is saying that if there were lizards big enough to fly around and eat people, they didn't have bones that could fossilize. So it'd be like an eagle. Right. And so, and that's why, you know, that's why all these human populations around the world have depictions of them because they did actually exist. Now are there any stories of dragons like written, like in the times of people that they actually had the written word or is it just depictions? I don't know. Not my field. That would be interesting because like are these depictions like ancient accounts told by generation after generation, like passed down? I think so. I think, I don't know. I don't know anything about dragons or whether it's real, but I think it's interesting to think, oh, well the science supports that if there were flying lizards, their bones wouldn't have fossilized and these have been passed down, stories that have been exaggerated and passed down from generation to generation. And some of them breathe fire, but some of them don't depending upon. Which culture it was significant to. I'm wondering what the fire, what the fire is supposed to represent or they're just people are full of shit. Probably that one. It sounded even cooler. Yeah, exactly. Not only did I kill him, he was trying to burn me. Do you think that, do you hold any weight? Do you think that holds any weight? No. Like if there's actually dragons? I mean, we know there were large flying lizards during the times of dinosaurs, right? The only weight that it could possibly hold is that like a few of those somehow survived much later than we previously thought. But do I think that there were dragons attacking human beings and civilizations? No, I don't. But it's still interesting. It's so much cooler if there were. Right. The fact that we know that pterodactyls did exist, that's cool. It would be way cooler if they existed with people. Right, 2,000 years ago. Why is that? But why is that so much cooler to us? I don't know. I mean, people would dedicate giant chunks of their life trying to find out if pterodactyls did coexist with human beings at one point in time. They really would. Absolutely. Many of you, there was. Like a hundred foot pterodactyl snatching kids. It would be terrifying. Oh my God. So would you know about the moa eagle? Yeah. Yes. The host eagle. The host, exactly. Yeah. I called moa eagle because they used to attack moa. They weren't that big. No, but they did supposedly snatch maui children. Yeah. But when I Googled it, I remember I think the large ones were like 40 pounds or something like that. I don't think they were that big. Is that all it is? Yeah. Like an eagle is really light. Right, but their wingspan is still enormous. Yeah. I mean, they have incredible power. Like when you see an eagle snatch a salmon with its claws and fly away with this 10 pound salmon and its claws. I mean, that's insane. It is. Because that salmon probably weighs more than it. Right. Right. Birds are weird, right? They sit on you like, oh, you're not very heavy. No, they don't weigh anything. And again, that goes back to that whole hollow bone type thing. Right. That's why chickens are strange because they're fat. They weigh a lot. Like you pick up a chicken, you're like, you fat fuck. You're trying to fuck. But birds, like a hawk, fairly light. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah, I think, what's the biggest host eagle? How big was the host eagle? But they were hunted by people. Right. Because they opposed a threat. And because people hunted the moa to extinction, that giant bird that the host eagle primarily preyed on. And so the twofold kind of made them collapse. Yeah. Large gigantic ancient things. Eight and a half. Let's see. Then for females, typically eight and a half feet, possibly up to 10 in a few cases. Why female? I'm trying to talk about dudes, bro. That's just the first thing I see. I want to know about the big dudes. Males, 25 pounds. Females, 31 pounds. Oh, females are bigger. Yeah. The larger females could have been 36 pounds in mass. Yeah. That's not that big. But a 10 foot wingspan is pretty huge. Oh, huge. Yeah. I mean- And you know, talons, they've got, I don't know, but they had to have been enormous. Yeah. Flying knives. Yeah. You've seen the videos that the Mongols use where they train golden eagles to kill wolves. Flitting the shoot them out. Yeah. It's crazy. It's unbelievable. They fuck up wolves. They're way smaller than a wolf. Oh yeah. And the wolf has zero chance. Right. They swoop down and grab a wolf by the back of the neck and just fuck them up. Isn't that crazy? And they're holding on to the wolf trying to get away and they're just killing them. And I believe, maybe it's not Mongolian culture, but one of those falconry cultures, you have to like, as a teenage boy or something like that, your right of passage is to go climb the cliff and take the chick out of the nest. Whoa. And it's like this crazy process where, you know, a number of kids die trying to get to the eagle chick and the ones that come back, that's their bird for however long the bird lives or I don't really know the whole process. That's right out of Avatar. Isn't that nuts? Right? Yeah. That's bananas. You got to steal the chick from the nest and raise it? Uh-huh. Who figured that out? Who figured out you're going to train a fucking raptor? I don't know. Like, how weird are people that they figure these things out? And someone was the first. You know what I mean? Someone was like, I'm going to go get that baby bird. You know what he probably did? He probably got high off that honey. He said, I'm going to keep climbing. That's right. I'm going to get me a fucking bird and have the bird do all the hunting. That's right. Everyone's like, you're crazy, man. Bro, you can't have a bird do the hunting. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. I'm going to get you a fucking bird. 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