There Are Lies and Disinfo in the UFO Community - Cmdr. David Fravor

So have you communicated with anybody that has any thoughts on what these things are doing or whether or not there's any consistency to the size of them or whether or not they think they're coming out of a larger object or anything along these lines? No. You know, you can ask well, because I was asked you know, what do you think they were doing? And I said, well, you can look. Well, they were observing, you know, because they're coming down and watching. Number two is they were communicating because I think, you know, in my heart, I think there was something under the water. I don't, you know, what it was doing there. But when we went back it was not. This is because when you saw the X, the cross looking thing. Explain that again. So the disturbance seemed to be in the shape of a cross? Like I describe it as, it's about the size of a 737. So just think if you submerge the 737, pointing it to the east underwater by like, you know, 10, 15 feet. So as these waves are coming across, when they, you know, they hit that object, they're going to break on top just like you would with a submerged like a seamount. So and it's, it's, they're breaking and that's where the tic-tac was at. That's the only reason we saw the tic-tac. That's what drew our eyes down there is we see this white water when it's a perfectly clear day with no white caps and you go, whoa, what's that? And then you see the tic-tac and then we, you know, we do all the chasing of the tic-tac and we turn. And we turn around and there's no white water. It's just blue as far as you can see. So at that point you go, okay, what was it doing? Because there was obviously something there that's not there now. So that's where I say, well, it's, it was observing us. It was, could have been communicating with whatever was there. You know, and then someone else looked at me and said, you know, I was talking to Lou and he goes, what about prepping the battlefield? I go, okay. You know, so if you go, you know, where are these things from? We don't know. Are they from China, Russia, someplace else? I don't know. But it's a, it's a capability that we do not possess to my knowledge. And if you asked me in 2004, cause there's a lot of guys go, well, it's maybe it's some secret government program. I go, all right. Well, let's, let's, let's be honest. One, if you have a propulsion system that made it, gave the capabilities that we, we observed visually, that's a huge leap for mankind period. So you would say, yeah, it was, you know, think about it. It's going to be 15 years next month that we saw this. I would like to think that, okay, maybe let's just say in 2004, it was something, somebody had this, some government had this, I don't, ours, whatever. If you come to now, you go 15 years later, you don't think that technology would have emerged because it would, it literally would change everything we do. I mean, we're happy about, you know, hybrid and electric cars and all this other stuff. But if you've got something that works like that air travel, it would change air travel forever. No visible system of propulsion. No, it's no plumes. No, it's just a, that's a, that's a, we joke. It's a, that's a, think of a 40 foot long tic-tac that can move at will through the air at speeds well beyond what we've ever witnessed. I mean, even when you watch a rocket go off, you know, one of the Elons or one of the NASA, whatever, you know, you sit there and while I grew up there in the Apollo ages and where you just look at the thing, go up, up, up, up, up, I've seen him shot out of Vandenberg where you go, you know, I'd sit in my house in central California and you watch it go up and go, I can watch that thing for a while. This is something that just like, poof, it matter of seconds is gone. Now are other pilots or other people that have cited these things, have they also reported something larger that's in the water near it? No. No. Not the ones I've talked to. I mean, I think, you know, you can get on history channel. There's all kinds of stuff on there about people talking about stuff, but you know what, here's the question is, what do you believe? What do you not believe? And you know, my, my biggest frustration is the, you know, our incident and even the folks on the East coast, it is what it is to us. There's no reason to embellish. There's no reason to make stuff up, but yet there's still groups of people that are making stuff up like someone came out on ours was talking about. And he's like, I, I saw the whole, the whole video is 10 minutes long and it was doing all this. It's bullshit. What you see is that's literally the entire video. It's a minute and a half longer. I think it's about a minute and a half long. What people haven't seen that I saw, I mean, I've seen the radar tapes because I had them as my squadron. Um, you know, I've heard, you know, the men in black, you know, I just, I'm free. You know, maybe the, okay, I'll give you the credit if they did, but why wouldn't they show up and talk to the guys who actually witnessed it, chased it, and is one of the senior guys in the metal group. Right. And it's also possible that that men in black stuff was something that they used to do back in the day and that that program was no longer continued and, you know, from Jeremy, you would know this, the older sightings when they go back into the day to historical sightings and I'm not, not Columbus, but you know, in the fifties and sixties, did they have similar things that they talked about or something moved in this manner? Yeah, it's absolutely incredible. And I want to dumb this down because that's how I had to understand it. When I was talking with commander favorite years before I kept his secret years before New York times blew it up. I told him it was probably going to happen. It wasn't by me. We were talking about it. This system that we have seen for over 70 years, just documented by our military. This is so important. This is a non reactionary field propulsion system. Everything we know is a reactionary propulsion system. We push something out the back, it goes forward. This is not like a mag system. This is a gravitational field propulsion system. And throughout history, our military has documented them and there has been ridicule and I'll tell you exactly why. 1952, there was a huge flyover of Washington DC. Jets were scrambled. All the papers covered it. It's very famous, you know, case everybody can look up. It's an important case because at that time a policy was started and that policy started because it crashed our communications. The teletypes went down the panic of the UFOs that were being seen by people with fighter pilots trying to capture and trying to engage them and it crashed the teletypes. So our government was like, oh, that's not happening again because, you know, Russia could use that as a scare tactic. So this policy of denial, don't look here, nothing to see, move on. UFOs are fake. That's what Project Blue Book was tasked to do specifically. The guy who ran it admitted that, that it was tasked to debunk this and demystify the UFO thing. That's J. Alan Hynick, correct? Right. I also, yeah, J. Alan Hynick. He was once asked by a friend of mine, do you have the smoking gun? I'll give you this document. It's pretty amazing. It's an Air Force manual where they explain what they know about UFOs at that time in 1967, but here's the point. Yes, this has been going on since the beginning of recorded human history. These propulsion systems that are captured on footage, you know, that is confirmed now by the Pentagon, like Commander Freivor's experience. This technology is not ours. It was here 70 years ago. You still have about 15 years ago. We would see it now. These exact things at 20,000 miles an hour going on 70 years ago documented. Somebody has a non-reactionary fuel propulsion system. Now are they aliens or some sub-sect of human, you know, somebody has them and they're flying through our airspace within Puny and pilots like Commander Freivor, who by the way, defended Los Angeles over not after 9-11. I mean, this is a guy we put all of our trust in. He was defending Los Angeles right after 9-11. So we got people like him coming forward saying, I saw this and you get internet warriors being like, it's a bird. It's a glitch. It's Superman. That's not concentrate on them.