Military Encounters with UFOs Are More Common Than You Know

Now, when you came back and what do you do with this information? Do you report it? Do you talk to people about it? So the typical process, anytime we fly, everything gets debriefed. So because it was a two seat airplane, usually the junior person in the jet goes down. So I was the boss, so I wasn't going down there. So we have a thing called Civic CVIC, which is the Carrier Intel Center. So they go down, we always take our tapes because we record stuff when we're fighting. They take it down and it's really to exercise the system when we're in training so that when we actually get over to, in this case, we are going over to the Persian Gulf, anything that we do comes in and gets debriefed and then it all gets sent off. That's how you get the CNN video and all that. So they go down and they debrief and they have to tell, hey, we chased this object, we don't know what it is. And of course, everyone now is going to make jokes because we know we're going to catch shit because that's how the Navy works. And I told him, I said, I remember telling the guy in my back seat, I said, dude, we're going to catch maximum shit for this. And he goes, yes, sir, I'll show you the comics. I have them on my phone. The airplane comes out, so we know it's going to come down. So he goes and they debrief this, both crews go in and of course everyone at Intel thinks this is hilarious. So the flight, Chad comes in with his tapes when he lands and here's the thing. Oh, VFA 41. Haha, you guys see any UFOs out there? And he pulls out that tape and drops it on the counter. He goes, yeah, it's on here. So they're like, oh shit. So they copy it, they play it and there's a big, it looks like a rack system. They put the eight mill in, it gets copied to a hard drive and then they archive it. So you go, okay, so they got this video and then the ship, the spreads, if you have a rumor on the ship, 5,000 people are going to know about it within probably 30 minutes. I mean it spreads that, it's like a virus. So the whole ship now knows that we chased this. I guarantee the whole Princeton knew the stuff was going on. And it goes all the way up. The Admiral knows about it. The captain of the ship knew about it. And then all the movies, because we have, they play movies for us on the ship and they run like a 12 hour loop. So of course the movie selection is Men in Black, Men in Black 2, Signs, Independence Day. And we know we're going to be on the airplane comic because there's always a comic. So you do something stupid or like this, then you're going to be on the comic. I'll show you the comics here in a little bit. They're pretty funny. But so that went on for two days, but we're in the middle of workups. I got a squadron to run. So it's like, there was, after about the first day and a half it really died down. And then there's always that closet, people that you don't think that are really like UFO buffs. And we had one of the Marines would always come and eat, sit down, hey, skipper, can I sit with you? You want to talk about the UFO? And he goes, yeah, I just, I can't get it out of my mind. And then we would just sit there and talk about it. And to me it was like, we were just saying, my entire now flying career is defined by five minutes of chasing this white tic-tac, vice, almost 4,000 hours flying. Now did you encounter anyone else that had a similar experience? I've talked to the guys, a couple of guys from the East Coast event, the gimbal video. One of them I talked to daily. He's a pretty good friend of mine. Totally different now. Keep in mind ours is 2004. The gimbal video is 2015. The funny part about the gimbal video and the East Coast stuff that was going on, because that's off the vacape. So off the coast of the United States, they're called warning areas. And all they are is if you look on an aviation map, there are these big areas that are blocked off by blue and they say like whiskey 291 or whiskey 243. Is the gimbal video available in the same way that that video is available? Yes. Yeah, go for it. Okay. Find that, Jamie. So, and I was talking to him about it because I actually have a buddy of mine who just retired. He led the fighter wing on the East Coast and I had called him up because we start finding out that these things were so prevalent out off the East Coast of the United States and there's a couple of them. So there's the, we're going to talk. What they started seeing originally was these things and one of them almost hit, an airplane almost hit one of these things, but it looks like a cube inside of a clear beach ball. So they don't know if it's actually like a surrounding or it's, you don't know if it's a force field and you see kind of in the gimbal video, it's got like an aura around it where ours didn't. I always laugh. I go, ours was a tic-tac. These are not. That means there's different stuff out there that we don't know, but they had two airplanes flying and we fly when we go out to train where usually we have a distance, you know, we'll just say we're, you know, a mile apart as we're flying out. So they're flying out and they're, you know, the airplanes are deployed. We call it combat spread. And one of the airplanes almost hits one of these, goes close down like 50 feet down the side and almost hits one of these floating cubes inside of the beach ball. And someone goes, wow, it's a balloon. It's not a balloon. I mean, these things are literally sitting still. They're no effect from the wind. So if you got 90 knots of wind and they talk about it, these things are just sitting there. So 60 or 70 people had seen it because the radars, the newer radar in the Super Hornets is extremely, extremely capable. Okay. And at first when they started seeing stuff, they were like, ah, it's just like maybe it's the radar just give me a false target. And that radar really doesn't give false targets. And then someone did exactly what Chad did is they threw their targeting flare out there and all of a sudden when you see a heat signature, there's a return. There's obviously something out where that blip is at. What is a targeting flare? We call it the AT flare. It's an advanced targeting flare. It sits on the left side of the airplane and it's... So you launch it like a flare? No, no, it's a flare, forward looking infrared receiver. So when you see the bombs blowing up on TV and it looks like a black and white and you see it fly, that's the targeting pod. It's got a laser in it. It's got an IR marker in it. It's a very capable system that syncs up to the Hornets so everything kind of marries up. So this is the Go Fast. No, this is Go Fast. Is that it? No, it's the other one. It's the one that looks like the... What is that one? That's called the Go Fast. That looks like a tic-tac and that was another one taken off the East Coast, but they grab it and it's... Bookmarked that one. It's going... It's screaming across the ocean at a very high rate of speed. And there's been some debunkers that say, well, it's really not going that fast. It's just the way the airplane is and how the mechanics of the pod are working. When you talk to the crew, because it's actually... I could ask my buddy. I'm pretty sure it's the same back seater took both of these videos. Took the Go Fast video and took the gimbal video. And my buddy was on the flight with the gimbal video. But they... These things that... So I called my bud because I'm like, hey, how many people are seeing these things? I got like 60 or 70. 60 or 70. 60 or 70 people had seen these things on radar. And I said, well, what are you doing? They said, well, we put out a NOTAM, which is a notice to airmen that just says, hey, these things are out there. So just be careful because we don't want you to hit one. Yeah. Whoa. And it's kind of like ours. You go, because you would ask, who do you tell? Well, everyone knows. Well, what do you do? And I said, well, because it was all white and it didn't have any markings on it and it didn't have any wings and it didn't have any rotors and it was just outperformed anything that we have. I think if I would have painted China a rush on the side... Is this the gimbal video? Yes. Okay. So it's the same pod. Start from the beginning, Chairman? What we're looking at. And when the crew finds it, now what you're not seeing, you're seeing the targeting. When you hear them start talking, when you listen to the video, you'll hear the guy go, dude, look, they're all over. Look at the SA page. So we have a situation awareness page and whatever the radar is getting returns on, it'll show up. It's kind of like our God's eye view in the airplane. So the pod can only look at one thing. So he designates that as his primary target. So that's where the pod is there. The radar is still seeing everything else. So what they're actually seeing in this video is when you see the object that he's tracking, when I was talking to one of the other pilots, he said, there's actually, when you see the radar video, there's like a, it almost looks like a formation in front of them, like five smaller ones that are moving in front of it. And then they turn. So like a formation, these things turns and starts going the other way. And then the, and while they're filming the gimbal video, and that's kind of the comms when you hear, dude, holy cow, look, they're all over. This is a unreported new information that he's actually saying right now. Everybody knows this video. This is the one that they say turns like the Lazar craft, like belly first. Or what he's telling you right now is something that is not public yet. He's telling you that there was a V formation of other objects that the public has yet to see. You're not going to, it's just a radar tape. But there were more objects surrounding this is what he's telling you right now, which is fascinating because the world doesn't know that yet. Just so you know, I mean, that's brand new. That's never been reported by New York Times. Anybody? Okay. So you can go ahead and play. So the cool thing with this is, you know, when he goes into, so he's in our IR mode right now. You're still seeing no plume. He's looking 47. So they're actually turning into it. So it's starting to pull it back towards the nose. See how the number at the top is decreasing. And it's against the wind. Now he's in TV mode and this thing's going to just start to roll. And you can kind of see it's got that aura around it. He said they were saying that the ones with the squares inside that looked like the beach ball were the same. And this thing is just hanging out. So it's on the airplanes in a left hand turn and it's, so now it's right in front. Yeah. It's just rotating. Now this is how Lazar described. Yes. Don't put that up. Right. Yeah. Lazar described that, that these things would lay flat and then when they would travel, they would turn up on their side. And that's how they maneuvered. So this is very similar. Really similar to the propulsion system that Lazar talked about. And that's why this video, we're seeing it very differently now, especially with what we know about Lazar. But the idea is that it would fly belly first in high speed mode. So if they have, these are gravity propelled. This is something that's known within the government. They're trying to back engineer it. They're trying to understand it. We know there's a program currently that they said is gone. However, it is currently active to study this. These things will turn belly first, the saucer type looking ones. And then that's the high speed mode because they focus allegedly, you know, these gravity wave amplifiers. Look, this thing turns mechanically. There again, no typical form of propulsion as an expert is telling you, this is not a glitch. This is seen by multiple radars, multiple people. Commander Fraber was so close to it. This is something that is not aerodynamic and it could move in ways and fashions. When he's under playing it, when we first talked, the idea of this thing going up, up, up, up, up, up, it's instantaneous acceleration back and forth. There's no slowing down, no turning like a ping pong ball. He said me our first talk ping pong ball in a glass, in a glass. Nothing moves like that with traditional reactionary propulsion. Somebody has technology that we don't have in our inventory at all. So this is counterintuitive the way it goes from being aerodynamic to being unaerodynamic when it goes sideways and then flies belly forward. That's correct. It's, well, it's not, it's, you know, if you talk, because I was just talking to the guy the other day and he said the irony with this is these things would be out there for hours. We don't have, you know, a high performance airplane does not have hours worth of gas. I mean, you know, Hornets, if we don't have area we're feeling, you know, and we're actually out doing a mission and fighting and going fast. You know, you're talking hour and a half and you're coming back to land. Some airplanes are even less, you know, based on their size, you know, so like an F-16 doesn't have external fuel tanks. It doesn't have a lot of gas. And the Soviet airplanes are the same way. The MiG-29 does not have a lot of gas. The Su-27, Su-30s have a lot of gas. It's weight, performance, size of the airplane. So you know, even our intercontinental bombers like B-2, they still take off and they air or fuel. They keep topped off so they can get to range. That's how we extend things. You got something like this that's coming down. You know, just think of the physics. So just the, I'll use my incident because that's the one I really know the best is you've got an object coming from above 80,000 feet. So I'll just tell you that 80,000, it's somewhere around 70, 80,000 feet is where you can actually start to see the curvature of the earth, you know, so that's considered space. So they're coming from above that. They're coming straight down. They stop at around 20,000 feet. They hang out for three hours and then they go straight back up. So and I know you had Elon on the show. So SpaceX is really excited because they can launch a rocket and then they can have the booster come back to earth and actually land on a pad. Very impressive engineering feat. Next to this technology, that's like a model T next to a Porsche. I mean, it's like, wow, really? That's it? You know, and you got something that can just at will move around. Now take it to the next level. And I know this is, there's a lot of talk about this. So things going to go into speculation mode. But when you take a shape like that, so just take the tic-tac shape, which is shaped like a submarine. If you're, if you're using a propulsion, it's non-reactive where you're just manipulating the median that you're in, air, whatever, you can go into the water. So when you hear the, all the reports of, Hey, we've seen these things since, you know, World War II that would come out of the water and fly. If you have a technology like this, as long as the object is sealed, where you're not going to get water inside of it, there's nothing that says you can't do that. Because all you're doing is you're not, you know, where a jet engine sucks in air and blows it out the back or a propeller actually pushes the water. It's a force. Now you've got something that's actually manipulating the gravity field and it's just moving through a void. Then it doesn't, then air, you could literally in theory fly, go into the ocean, cruise around, pop back up, fly around, go to space. You're nothing. You remove the barriers of the normal propulsion that we have today.