The Mystical Aspects of the Bhagavhad Gita (and Spaceships) w/Raghunath Cappo | Joe Rogan

We do a teacher training, a yoga training in India every January. I just got back from it. Yeah, I saw it on your Instagram. It's great. It's super fun. We do, we have three academies. We have a music school where we study Indian music in Kirtan. We have a 300 hour training for people who are already teachers and we have a sacred literature. She studied the Bhagavad Gita and all these sacred texts. We were talking about that before the podcast. I really wanted to get into that eventually. I just didn't know how to like the mystical aspects of the Bhagavad Gita and of the Mahabharata, all the ancient Indian texts which are filled with really wild out there shit. You know, I mean, it's all real. Oh, crazy stuff is real in what way just like all the things that you say like, well, that's interesting. That's fascinating. That's fantastic. The more you get into it, you realize that's freaking real like what like what's real? Everything from like the Vmanas, things like that. I can't say real but I could I could understand how things can be made of subtle energy. Well explain Vmanas. Vmanas is like a spaceship. Yes, it's like it's a spaceship from and they speak of spaceships and flying crafts, but they're not made of the same elements of this earth. Right. So we have all these things about you know, and I get it. There's a bunch of people making up shit about I saw an alien etc. There's also very qualified people, you know, Air Force colonels and things like that. I've had them in here. You've had them in. Yeah, they suffer from the same thing. These people who claim abduction. It's not like a type of neurosis or schizophrenia. They suffer from like post-traumatic stress syndrome. Yes, like they something happened. They disappear. They were found two weeks later. Do you remember the story of Betty and Barney Hill? No, it's the most famous abduction story. It was an interracial couple from I think was the 1950s or 1960s and just random. My interviews always go here. I had this girl on the podcast, this woman on the podcast yesterday. She's an MMA fighter. Her name is Angela Hill. She's a couple days ago actually this badass MMA fighter and at the end of the podcast, she goes, I forgot to bring this up. My grandfather is Barney Hill. I was like that guy. I'm like no fucking way. That guy, Barney Hill was the very first like really public UFO abductee and there's record and he describes his craft that's eerily similar to the crafts that Bob Lazar is described and different people described and he and his wife lost time while they were driving and then woke up with these bizarre horrific memories that they both shared of this encounter with these space beings and that they were abducted and they were medical examinations were run on them. Then they were replaced with missing time and it's crazy. If you listen to the recordings of him being hypnotized and going through it like screaming in fear that they're touching him and where they taking him. What are they doing to him? It's not like a guy acting. It's not like a scene right movie where someone's screaming in fear. It sounds real and I just the teachings of ancient India is that life exists on all planets. It even exists on the Sun and so the first argument we like come on how we can exist. They just don't have bodies of different that are different than yours. They have a fire body and therefore I'm trying to look at how does a person with earth and water body live in the Sun? They can't write you have to have a body. I mean I used to think like this when I was 13 years old right. I used to think like okay why can't my dog hear those sounds but I can't hear them. Right. What am I missing? What sense am I missing that I can't have objective reality? You know what am I missing? Am I missing a sense? Well I have this principle called the fart theory like if someone farted but you didn't have a nose you'd have no idea. You'd have no idea? You have no idea but oh god what is that? That fart theory is the beginning of transcendental thought. Yeah because it's there's a sense that you possess that allows you to access. Yeah recognize something that's invisible. You can't see it. You can't feel it. You can't hold it. There's not there you don't there's no way of detecting it other than your all factory senses but through your nose you can detect that something's awful. What sense am I missing? Right keeping me from understanding absolute reality sure. I mean that's one of the things that you feel when you take psychedelics like this is opening up some new sense that I was I mean is this around me all the time I'm just not tuned into it because I don't have the right chemical composition flowing through my brain. When I start to teach a bigger training like a yoga training in philosophy. That's one of the things I do mainly. I start with this concept of this is how you understand like when I first approached teachers when I went to India I would say things like you know I'm reading this Mahabharata. I think it's a great book a lot of great lessons here but come on we're adults. Are my supposed to understand that a elephant headed man scribed this entire book can't we just extract a useful lesson and the answer was very good that I got was and it was very sweet. It wasn't like cruel. He just said what do you know? It's really caught me off guard like what do you actually know right? What do you know and I and use this example from New York. Okay suppose 300 years ago you're living in New York your family's living in New York your tribe is living in New York you have a certain amount of animals and animals that you keep animals that you ride animals that you hunt foods you eat and then one of you goes on a boat to Africa and you come back and you think you're never going to believe what I saw. I saw a striped horse you think well I've seen striped horses whitehead blackneck no no no no I saw a striped horse if you've never seen a zebra it's almost unbelievable if all you know is ponies right or I saw this horse with a really long neck that ate the leaves on the trees come on man. It's all fantastic because we've never seen it right but that doesn't mean it does so to really understand the Vedas the teachings of ancient India you have to go into it like not that it's all real. I'm not saying to just blind faith but I'm not saying don't be a blind doubter like it's all unreal that's bullshit that's crazy that's nuts it's got to be could be I don't know but I don't know a lot. What do you think that what do you think like Ganesh was? Ganesh the being.