Bodies Change but the Soul is Eternal w/Raghunath Cappo | Joe Rogan

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Raghunath Cappo

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Raghunath Cappo was the vocalist for punk bands Youth of Today and Shelter, and after living as a monk is now a yoga teacher and is the host of the "Wisdom of the Sages" podcast on Spotify.

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By the way, when I speak, I'm speaking, it's not my feelings. Whether I'm right or wrong, I'm saying this is with a, I'm a yoga teacher. So I teach what the yogis teach. Ganesh is a being, he's a jiva, jiva means he's a soul. Like in India they say, you don't have a soul, you are a soul. You have a body. So the bodies change, but the soul is eternal. So that's called a jiva-tutva. You understand that you're separate than your, we are separate than our bodies. We are, like you said earlier, we're separate from our thoughts, we're separate from our subtle body, our mind. So you take on a different Rogan machine, a Raghunath machine. And sometimes the machines are good at warfare, fighting. Sometimes the machines are good at art. Sometimes the machines, they're just like a different vehicle you would drive. You got a Porsche or you got an 18 wheeler, they're both good for different things. So in the same way, we have some karma, these are karmatizing, you have some karma to have this body that has such good fortune or poor fortune or some great success. And it's the karma of the body, but you have to leave that body. So Ganesh is also a post, Brahma is also a post. You could have been a Brahma in a previous life or could be one in a previous life. And you get a body, just like you get a body in this life, according to how you act and how you behave and how you think and the people you associate with, they give you a body. For example, if you and I grow up together and all we talk about is martial arts, we got pictures of Arnold Schwarzenegger on our wall, we start to create a body that emulates those heroes. And if we couldn't care less and we just like watching TV and doing nothing, we get a body according to... So in this lifetime, we're making bodies and we're making our minds, we're making our intelligence, but the yogis say that everything that we do is a practice. Just like I just found out today that you were a Taekwondo champion by reading your bio. I know you read my bio. I read your bio on Wikipedia. I was like, I got to know more. So I just know you from just rolling around with you, that type of camaraderie. So you got that way from a practice. It didn't just like spontaneously come, you practiced and you bring that practice with you wherever you go and you can get better at the practice or you can get a little down the practice. But the yogis say that everything that we do is a practice. It's our thoughts, our intelligence, our skills, our spirituality, our addictions. They don't just fall from the sky. We work on them and you'll hit... And that's why there's these things, which is another thing. I don't know if you've ever done this on your show. Study the lives of... What are they called? Savants or like these prodigies. It's unbelievable. Four years old musical prodigies. Where's that coming from? The yogis say it's not random. It's not weird. It's not quirky. It's not unexplainable. It's a practice. Or that... What was that child chess player from Norway who could play like six people backwards and beat them and not... He was not facing them. He's memorizing their board. Where do you get that type of intelligence? The yogis say it's a practice. Or Mozart and Chopin who are like virtuosos at four. How? And you'll see like the saints of India, they'll be spiritual virtuosos. Like from a very early age. Like my teacher's teacher's teacher, like a... What was it? A grandfather teacher? He was like a master of Sanskrit at age four. Everyone could give class on it. And could... Imagine that at age four. You know what I was doing at age four? I was wrecking shit. I was breaking things. Yeah, lighting things on fire. You know, Shankar Acharya, another great like teacher of India, age eight, he renounced the world at eight. Initiated 10,000 disciples. Changed the course of all of India. At eight. At eight. He wrote commentaries. He'd go to Columbia University, read commentaries in the Gita by this person who at age eight walked away from his mother and said, I'm leaving for the forest. It's unbelievable. This stuff's real.