Skeptical Joe Rogan Discusses UFO's with Dan Aykroyd

I mean, if they're gonna make phone calls, they're gonna, you know, take out Don Lemon or something because he talks shit about Trump. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, maybe she just... It doesn't make sense. I don't know. I'd always like to know what happened. UFOs are openly discredited by normal people. People that dismiss them. Well, not entirely though. Half the world believes. If you look at the work of Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Keene, New York Times reporters, they're credibly reporting this stuff. Barney and Betty Hill, the state of New Hampshire, has certified their experience with a plaque. You can go to the place where they were allegedly abducted and the state of New Hampshire has UFO incident right there. Right, but we both know that that doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean it happened because someone... Well, it means it's a state certified or state recognized paranormal experience. Right, but it's New Hampshire. You can get anything certified in New Hampshire. That's a goofy place. Well, I don't... Shout out to New Hampshire. Adam Sandler comes from there. That's one of... He's a definitely a national treasure. There it is. There it is. Betty and Barney Hill incident. Isn't that great? I mean, wow. Like a state certified... And also another state certified paranormal... Oh, 61. 61. Right around the time. That was a couple months before Kennedy was shot, right? Wasn't he shot in November? 63 for him, right? Yeah. Oh, was it 63? Yeah, 63 and that wasn't 47. Yeah, but there you go there. There you go. There you go. There's a couple. Betty and Barney Hill experience a close encounter with a 9.5-4-1. And then in Marfa, Texas, you heard of the Marfa lights? No, I have not heard of them. The Marfa lights are these anomalous, and that's a state kind of recognized paranormal mystery too, mysterious Marfa lights. They have a kind of a picnic area where you can watch them at night. No one knows what they are. They appear every night and they bounce around on the horizon. They go up and down and back and forth. People sell their headlights from different cars on the highway, but the Air Force, the state police, they've all tried to figure out what they are and they just don't know what the Marfa lights are. And they're recognized by the state of Texas as a paranormal event. But I like your skeptical view. Yes, I do. Yeah, ball lightning is a real thing that's created by pressure inside the tectonic plates. But every night, consistently going back and forth in symmetrical patterns. But I mean, every night, can we go there tonight and go film it? Yes, we could. 100%. Absolutely. Really? Yep, Marfa lights. How many videos of the Marfa lights are available? Go ahead. Marfa and Marfa, Texas. There they are. Let me see what we got here. Wow. What do we got here? Yeah, no one knows. That's rednecks. They're driving their trucks over the hill. Well, that's what they say in the Air Force and the police. They've looked in there. They've done surveys. They've done geodetic surveys. What is it? Is it gas? Is it what? What do they think it is? What's the official explanation? No one knows. Mystery lights. The state of Texas has a little plaque, the Marfa mystery lights. Enjoy them because they're there. They're going to be there tonight. 6pm till 2 in the morning. Really? Every night? Every night. Every night. They're going to smoke weed and stare at the sky. Is there any UFO sightings that you think are nonsense? Is there any mainstream ones that you listen to and you're like, I'm not buying that one? Well, all the people that I've talked to that have had sightings and have had experiences seem very genuine. I don't know that anyone has been, I don't know anyone that's been blown out publicly that I would doubt. I mean, can you think of one? I don't know. I believe the Allagash boys, Calvin Parker down there in Mississippi, the Pascagoula incident. I mean, again, their lives were severely negatively affected by these experiences. Right, but they didn't know whether or not that was going to be the case when they reported on it. A lot of people do silly things that negatively affect their life. Yeah. And they're not future tellers. There's a guy there. He was, he says that the alien appeared at his back screen porch door. He's in Colorado. Do you know that gentleman? He says that the... Do you have balls deep in this, man? You know all these stories. This guy, I don't really, I don't know if I believe him because the Colorado alien at the back door, I don't know. Doesn't seem right. I just looked, I don't know if I believe him or not. It just like, like he was fabricating there. I'm sure there's a lot of people fabricating things and I'm also sure there's a lot of people that believe they're telling a true story, but in fact, they're schizophrenic or they have some issues or there's, I think there's a lot of that going on too. Billy Meyer was doubted for me. Sure, I know that story. What do you think about him? The pictures are so vivid and the Pleiadines story is so vivid. I don't, I mean... I want a book. Billy Meyer. You can put Billy Meyer UFO photos of me up there. Where's he from? He was a Swiss... Yeah, we have his book. That was that... I know. Somebody came to the comedy store and gave me this book on that guy. The big pictures and the... Isn't that widely proven that they're such a bullshit? Well, look at the one by the pine tree. They're going, they're going, oh, he attached the saucer to the pine tree. I already threw it in the air and took a picture of it. Okay, well that's one theory, but wasn't it, you know, didn't they do that just to show the scale of their ship and some of those photos are pretty, pretty convincing. I don't know. And okay, if you want to say... One guy who keeps taking awesome pictures of UFOs, I'm not buying it. Well again, you know, if there was anyone that I had doubt, because so much doubt has been thrown his way. That's pretty, pretty, I mean, how do you... Well I suppose with Photoshop, but Bruce McAfee, I believe, Bruce McAfee's analyzed these. He wrote this book. He says they're real. Right, but a guy who's writing a book on UFOs is analyzing UFO pictures saying they're real. This guy wants to believe you. But Bruce McAfee is a doctor and he's a science... He worked for the Naval Air Corps. I want to talk to his ex-girlfriends, see if he's full of shit. You know what I'm saying? Like you could say all these positive things about people. Yeah, he worked for the Navy. Look at that one. He's the expert. Well, he's the expert. He said... That's the Gucci version. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, look at those balls. What are they? That's a bling bling. Those are the pinballs. If you had an Instagram account and you were an alien, that's the one you'd rock. But I think he did a photo, he did a photo analysis and he said that Bruce believes they're real. And I believe Bruce, if you read this book here, he's the real thing. Like Stanton was the real thing. Bruce McAfee's the real thing, because there are scientists who are doing very, very thorough and close inquiry on the matter. So if you ask me who I doubt, maybe, I don't know, Billy Meyer, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, he took too many. Yeah. If he had like three. It's like a glut. It's like too much chocolate. Yeah, come on, bro. That's all you're doing? You're out there and they just come to you? Why don't you set up a camera crew 24-7 for a couple of weeks and let's... Well, Stephen Greer uses lasers. He points them up to the sky and kind of attracts them that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But his wife and daughters have said that if they've sat out and watched these things come and go in North Carolina at their house... But people saying that something happened and something actually happened. Well, how about all the photos? But his thing is about UFOs. He's made documentaries about UFOs. Yeah. His business is he knows a lot about UFOs. What do you want? I talked to Greer. I'm not buying it. What you want is you want the Sam, you want the Herb Shermer story. What's the Herb Shermer story? Nebraska Highway Patrolman on patrol, sees a flash of light in the Ashland oil refinery near Nebraska, flash of light in the oil refinery in the broad dilate. Not a good thing. Could be a fire. Goes up, not into UFOs. Highway Patrolman goes up. He was taken into a ship and deposited. He's one of the famous ones. So no agenda there. Didn't want to tell a story. Okay. Again, got into trouble for him. But again, here's the thing. Herb Shermer. Herb Shermer. S-H-I-R-M-E-R. No disrespect to Herb, but some cops are crooked. They steal people's money. Some cops rape people. Some cops pull people over for nothing. Some people shoot people for non-existing crimes. There's a lot of people that just happen to be police officers that are also full of shit. That's, a lot of people are full of shit. That's true. But I, you know, again, here he is. He's a guy. Why would he say that? Where's the evidence? The other one is? Where's his evidence? Well, his evidence is anecdotal, like a lot of it, but... That's a problem, right? Well, the Phoenix Lights, there's video of that. That's a different one. That's a different story. Z-A-M-O-R-A. He was a New Mexico highway patrolman. He set a saucer, landed, and he saw it land and... Dan Aykroyd, everybody wants to be special. And one of the best ways to be special is for you to have a special moment with some special creatures from a special place. No one else can recognize whether or not you're telling the truth or not telling the truth. You have to talk about this, and everybody wants to listen, and they listen to you. They're totally fixated on everything you like to say. Oh, how about... That's intoxicating. How about Pervas Jafari? Pervas Jafari. I like the name. Okay. Pervas Jafari. He was an Iranian Air Force pilot. He still lives in Iran. He does many lectures. And he did the famous... It's the Iranian Tehran UFO sighting. He chased the UFO in his jet, and the thing turned off all the electronics in the jet, and he said this thing was moving. How about General DeBruer? Well, how about David Fraver? I don't know him. He's the guy that they were talking about on the Bob Lazar documentary. He experienced something that flew exactly like the Lazar ones. I'm going to talk to him soon. And he... Incredibly credible. And, you know, military accolades. He's a very well-respected guy, and he's never had any other fantastical sort of stories that he's told. I can't wait to talk to him about this. Yeah. Pervas Jafari's a good guest too. You should get him out. And then there's the guy who flew the Alaskan, you know, the Japan Airlines flight with all the wine on it, and the UFOs above Alaska. It circled them several times. That's a famous story. I'd get a bottle of that wine. Yeah, that would be... Imagine? Yeah. So Alaskan Airlines sighting, that's another one. So, no, but I like your view. You are not going to sit here and say, oh, it's all true. I'm accepting it all. It's too easy. There's too many people that want to do that. All I give you here today, from my experience, is the ones that I believe. And that's Betty and Barney Hill, Travis Walton, the Audigosh Boys. Yeah, Betty and Barney Hill are a really interesting one, because also there was in the precedent, Betty and Barney Hill in 1961, there wasn't a bunch of people that were talking about these things happening to them. And since then, there've been very many that were really similar, very similar. And it makes you wonder. But this is what I want to say to people that are skeptical. And of course I'm skeptical. That's why I'm knocking holes in these things. But if it did happen, and you were left alone to try to explain to people something that is incredibly unique, very few people ever experience it, it would be so hard to get people to believe you. Well, that's why you have to go to a professional. You go to a professional. But there's no such thing. You know, well, John Mack. There's someone who can, professional means you make money doing it. Means you studied it and you make money doing it. There's not a single fucking human being on this planet that's a professional explorer of other worlds, right? There's not a single person on this planet that is a professional expert on alien civilization and can tell you everything they need to know. I know more about French, about the language, the French language than anyone that's ever lived knows about alien civilizations. And I don't know shit about French. Do you know what I'm saying? Yep. I know it's a real place. I know France is a real place and French is a real language. And I could say Paulie Vufoncet. That's more than anybody can explain about any civilization on some other planet. You've got to take the credentials of the people who report these things. And I refer to the Leslie King's book. I do. I do. They are. That's right. No. You know, UFOs, generals, pilots and UFOs go on the record. That's Leslie King's book. And there's some pretty compelling stories. Do you remember Arsenio Hall? When he had that thing you would do, things that make you go, hmm. Hundreds in states see Flying Saucers, Indianapolis News. You know, anyway, this is a neat book by Bruce. I believe Bruce was the real thing. I believe Stanton is the real thing. Listen, J. Alan Hynick is one of the more interesting characters to me because of the project Blue Book. He ran Project Blue Book and his directive was to debunk these stories. Whether or not they were credible, his directive was to say, that's a weather balloon. That's a star. This is swamp gas. That was his directive. But then when he left Project Blue Book, he said, listen, these things are real. Yeah, 20% of sightings are unexplained. He said these things are real. And when you talk to a man like that who's living, was in debunking these things and then after it was all over, he was compelled to communicate with the American public that there was a real situation going on. There is. He's really interesting to me. And Ken Arnold, his sighting is pretty compelling. So I don't think they want to form a relationship with us. I think they're coming and going like taxis and they have been since the beginning of the existence of life on this planet or the existence of this planet. Do you think they engineered human beings? Well, that Mission to Mars movie is one of NASA employees' favorite movies. I think maybe they might have. What is a Mission to Mars movie? That's a... A Mission to Mars. Tim Robbins, really good picture. It's a doc... It's a feature. It's a feature, yeah. Mission to Mars. Yeah. What is it about? It's about the Mission to Mars and them discovering there was a civilization there and that perhaps we were helped along in our development. What year was this around? I'm not sure Mission to Mars. 2000, really?