Russell Brand - Joe Rogan Fetishizes Hard Working Men

So your pursuit for excellence, when you're saying I've got to get better at BJJ or archery or hunting or whatever, that isn't coupled with a sort of sense, because you're not fucking good enough. No. See, that's the deal that I've got. There's wonderment. I love it. Joy. That's so cool. There's joy in it and there's enthusiasm, I mean, in everything. Archery in particular, it's very, you know, that book Zen and the Art of Archery, which is, it's an interesting book. You know, I mean, I think there's some really great points to it, but that state of mind that you get when you release an arrow and that arrow perfectly finds its mark really is Zen. It requires so much concentration and focus and technique that you really don't think about other things. Beautiful. And it's cleansing in a lot of ways. It's mind cleansing. I find jiu-jitsu to be very similar in that way too, that it's so all-encompassing. It's so, there's so much on the line. It's so difficult to do that while it's happening, you're freeing your mind up. I mean, I think of video games in the same way. All of these things, that's bizarre, but like all of those things suggest a transmission between the inner and outer world, isn't it? You're looking at the bull's eye and then, oh my God, I've made this thing traverse time and space. Or BJJ, I've been shown again and again how to execute this triangle and I've just actually done it against resistance. It's amazing to feel that. It's amazing to feel that your inner life can express itself in the material world, whatever or wherever you're looking to explore that. And to test yourself. When you test yourself and you have to figure your way through something or change the path because the path you were on was unsuccessful, when you're doing that, it's really good for the mind and for the, I hesitate to say the spirit because I think that word spirituality is so beaten down and abused. What do you mean? It's become commodified. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like when people call themselves a healer. Like are you really? Yeah, I've just done some healing on the way. Yeah. I should tell you what that guy is. We're all healing. I mean, we really are all healing each other, but I think there's something to doing difficult tasks that it makes life easier. I really believe that. I think it makes life more enjoyable. I think it makes the bright colors brighter and it makes the dull colors, even them, even the bad moments. If you have real positive experiences with difficult things that you choose to do on your own, I think it mitigates most of the hassle of life. Yes, I agree with that. That is again, and I'm not particularly promoting this book because I'm all right with how things do, but the point of this mentorship is the idea that someone will exhibit qualities that you recognize you haven't fully realized in yourself and that you can sort of model them and realize them because, laterally, you have those qualities. Oh, like Kevin Hart, we were talking about how admirable I find his positivity to be. It made me think... It's so real. It's unbelievable. On a practical level, I thought the way he's building his stand-up, that guy's fucking diligent and the amount of, like, when he talks through his, when he talks through his work schedule. You quite, you fetishize hardworking men, I think. I've heard you talk about Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart. Yeah. Like, you like the idea of men, I'm up at those people. I'm up at two. I'm in the cryo chamber. I don't do that though. I sleep in. I can't look at it, do you? Well, you look out and stuff. I do a lot of things that they don't do. But I also, unlike The Rock, at least, I do stand-up. I mean, Kevin does stand-up too, obviously.