Roseanne Reflects on the Controversy 1 Year Later | Joe Rogan

You know with this whole thing I realized I go on too much. I talk too much like all old women. No, you don't talk too much. The problem is not the talking. The problem is the people reacting to your talking. I like to see people get lit. Yeah. It makes them go woo, my ass itches. No I think it goes like this. Shit, uh oh someone's off program. Buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh. Oh I'm unraveling. You like the wicked witch. Oh, a bit of water got on you. It's off program. Right. Yeah, eat it. The problem is not what you're saying. It isn't? No. It's how I see it? The problem is people reacting to you. That's the problem. But I'm supposed to get a reaction. Yeah but they're fools. The ones who are freaking out and canceling this and firing that. They're just fools. They don't understand you. It makes me think of that song which you know I said fuck it. I don't care about it no more. I'm going to become the rock star that I've always wanted to beat and I'm going to sing that song and here's a song. I'm not going to sing it right now. But this was the song that refers to all that. I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. Oh Lord. Oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood. Because life has its problems. Yeah that's a great quote. That's a great quote. Isn't it? That was great words. It's a great song. Eric Burden, what a great artist. We talked about it on the last podcast that I think was really important that people understand. You know I've been a fan of yours forever and I know your story and I know what happened to you when you were a little girl when you got hit by a car and you were in a mental institution for nine months afterwards and how it completely affected the way you think and behave and I don't think people knew that. And it was a really important thing for me to talk about during the last podcast. One of the reasons why I wanted to get you in as quick as we could. Oh yeah that was cool. People need to understand what's happening here. What's happening there was a genius comic who's also on Ambien, smoking pot, drinking and has legitimate brain injury. I do and I have a mental health issue. I think a lot of that is from not just genetics but your brain injury. Well I uh, I uh. The problem is people reacting to you. They're reacting to you like you're calling for people to be assassinated or murdered or you're yelling racial slurs in the streets. You're not doing any of those things. You're not that person. The reaction was so overblown and then ABC got so wacky and canceled you. It was so foolish, so foolhardy and to try to change who you were, the reason why the goddamn show was successful is because of who you were and the fact that other people on the show didn't have your political ideology and you would argue with them and fight with them and it's like real life conflict like people know in their own homes. That relatable aspect of your show was why it was number one so quickly and why the old show was so great. That's you and they tried to mold you to these woke times and foolishly reacted to the way you were talking as if you were doing something that was like, they changed what you were doing and made it this horrific terrible thing. It's just not accurate. Because I said that I like Trump. As soon as they heard that, a lot of kabals here in Hollywood, that's all they needed to hear. It's like, okay, she must be destroyed. I did hear people say, oh my God, I'm afraid she's going to try to humanize Trump. At the network they said that. Yes, people think that. It's like, what? You mean Trump voters? Is that who you're afraid is going to get humanized? That's the fucking country. I know. It's like such an elitist out of touch view of humans. It's always offended me. It always offended me that they didn't like their audience. I liked the audience because I thought I'm from there and they're familiar to me. I vowed to myself, I'm not going to disrespect the audience. I never did and I never did sell out neither. Everybody, there will come a day, I believe, when ... No, there won't. Who knows what the fuck will happen? Who knows? Nothing will happen. Who knows what the fuck is going to happen? Inside my own head though, I guess I've made peace with it. It was like the worst horrible thing I've ever gone through. My friend Tiffany, she says that this might be the beginning of the valuing of an artist rather than the ... Because it was the lowest point of ever devaluing an artist and an artist's work. She says, so maybe now it's turned around and the artist will be better respected for what they bring. I hope so because they were even pulling your old show off of things, which is just fucking ridiculous. That's kind of what killed the comedy thing for me is that I was also told that one more, me getting in trouble one more time, I wouldn't have my reruns anymore. I live on that. Jesus Christ. That's kind of what killed the stand-up comedy. So that killed the idea of you going out and doing stand-up again? I asked for it to be defined. I said, could I have a definition of what offensive means to you? They said, you know what it means. I said, could you discuss it with my lawyers? No, you know what it means. What does it mean? I don't know. This is the problem. It could mean you fart or something sometimes. I mean, these people that think people are rude are the rudest fucking assholes on earth. They think they're doing the right thing though. They're the most insensitive. The people that think they're so sensitive, they're insi- Do you think they think they're doing the right thing? I do too. I think they do think that. Because I don't think they ever get to hear anybody like me say, you're not doing the right thing. Well, we live in an echo chamber over here. Please think it through a bit. We live in an echo chamber. I know. That's why it's up to us to go. Please think things through a little bit more. I'm not condemning anybody. I'm not that kind of person. I think we need more conversations. Absolutely. And we need more- We send the best dinner parties to all these self-righteous fucking progressives ruin that. Starting with my own family on Passover when we were celebrating the Jews leaving fucking Egypt and I had this horrible cousin. I can't even remember his name. And he goes, well, maybe, and he had long hair. Well, maybe we shouldn't be celebrating the death of other Egyptians. Like well, that's what the story's about. And then we'd have like fist fight break out, you know? And I'd always be the one going, can we just get back to the story? Can we just get back to the story? Always someone looking to be offended by some aspect of any story. I'm offended every fucking day of my fucking life for how goddamn stupid people are. Goddamn, they can't be more offensive to me right now than ever has been before. I'm about ready to get out there and tell people what in the fuck. Like that has hit me many times in my life. There's been times I got out of my car to chase after a mother or two the way I see her treating her kid. I do it. I'm boots on the ground. I'm not a trifling sort. Trifling's a strong word for a white person. I've always said that. It's like, it's a next door neighbor to the N word. Like trifling? No, it's not Jews use it. We use it. Trifling. But it seems when a guy uses it that's a white guy, it's like, hmm, I don't know. I think a woman can get away with it better than a guy can. When I grew up, we lived right next door to African Americans, you know? We lived down to where everybody lived together. You know, there wasn't any, nobody had got to the suburbs yet. We lived mid city. And we had all kind of people down there at the bus station where we lived. Trifling is just a great word. It is a good word. It should come back. But it's just white people using it. It always sounds awkward. Does it? But white women can pull it off. Women can pull it off. It's like silly. But it's such a good word. It's great word. I mean, what else would you say? Wallowing in filth. Maybe that's, isn't that what it means? Trifling ass. Does it mean wallowing in filth? I think it more means like you're a fool. You're like a moron living a stupid fucking petty life, right? Unimportant or trivial. Trivial. Trivial, that's the word. Perfect. Trivial. I call that wallowing in filth or pandering. So much better than trivial. And pandering too. I love that word. Pandering is common amongst cowards. Isn't it? There's a lot of cowards. A lot of cowards today. Yeah, they are. They're cowards, but you can't blame them because, you know, they got drug debts and shit. Well, it's also that people don't want to be attacked. No, they don't. And they have every right to be that way. I mean, I am like this is just before the Jewish holidays, you know, Yom Kippur, where I have to repent. Anyway, what are you repenting for? All the bad shit I did this last year that I enjoyed. I don't repent for the shit I had to do. Right. But the stuff I did because I enjoyed seeing somebody squirm. What did you do? I enjoyed seeing somebody squirm. Oh, I had to. Don't say anything that's going to get your reruns canceled. I just had to have the last word in personal relay, you know, all over the place. Yeah, that kind of shit. And in the larger world, at Goldfield. Yes, I'm just trying to be a forgiving person. And so I'll be forgiven. And I do ask to be forgiven by apologizing. I am sorry that I made even one embarrassing day for anyone who gave me the chance to come on TV and make a number one show. And to all those who I embarrassed, I am very sorry. And I I think that I think I owe that. And and I feel it. And I I am sorry for, you know. Allowing myself to become unwell. Mentally because I worked so hard, I didn't look out for myself. I didn't take the vitamins. I didn't take the shots. We talked about that too. And your difficulty sleeping and then taking sleeping aids. I've been so Rothambian for since that happened. Fantastic. Yeah, that's excellent. Now I take melanin. Melatonin. Melatonin. Yeah, that's really good. That's really good advice. I mean, really good news. I'm very happy to hear that. That scares the shit out of me. I haven't done any weird things. I mean, you that tweet was just one of them. Oh, yeah. No, I know. I follow you on Twitter. I would see the tweets do. I'm like, Roseanne's on one. Oh, yeah. Roseanne's my daughter goes, you've got to stop with these ambient tweets, mother, before you lose everything for us. Well, that's hard for us. Oh, you little. Well, don't worry. I'll get even. I get what my grandson's. I'm like, I say you guys. I think this now and I thought this then you just need an advocate who understands you. That's all you needed. You needed it back then. And you know.