Rogan & Rinella Talk Uncontacted Tribes

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Steven Rinella

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Steven Rinella is an outdoorsman, conservationist, writer, and host of "MeatEater." Watch season 11 now at www.themeateater.com.

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Now we're like such grownups. In our pantry we have like a little liquor section. Right. And you have like oh there's, you know. Yeah, I have a wine fridge. Yeah, but in the old days you couldn't because you just drank it and it was gone. Right. You know. Yeah. I wanna interview you for a minute. Okay, go ahead. How comfortable, do you ever tell your listeners about the comedy stuff you're working on? Or do you like to keep it big secret? Yeah, I tell them some things. I don't like to give up premises, cheer sir. You don't like to give up premises? I mean punchlines. Oh. I'll say like a subject I'm working on. You do or don't give up subjects? Well I don't know. I wanna engage you about a subject that we were texting about. Oh about the missionary? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, cool, sure. I just don't understand. This is good. I know that you will. I like it. I know that you will have, knowing you and how good you are at what you do, I know you'll have done it, but I don't understand how you could have had a novel thought about the missionary. Yeah, see. Who got killed. Just to refresh people's memories. There's an island, East Sentinel. What's funny about my fish shack, there's an island called Sentinel Island. Really? Yeah, no one lives on it. I've been past it many times and have yet to been shot at. It's North Sentinel Island. Oh sorry. North Sentinel Island. And my shack is East Sentinel. Sorry. North Sentinel Island. You know it better, so you should tell people what it is. I wanna go to your shack. I wanna catch some howl a bit. Really? Yeah, next one, instead of a hunting trip, let's do a fishing trip. I would love to have you have that. You have a calendar coming out there and we'll catch some howl. So you're not interested in bringing your family? Yeah, we could do that too. We kinda take a family approach up there more and more now. Well, you kids like flipping rocks and see what's under the rock. My youngest loves fishing. Loves it. Rock flipping. She loves everything. She's really big in that one. How young's the youngest? Nine. Oh, yeah, perfect. But no, I wanna get like, I just can't, I can't, I've thought about and thought about it and I can't think, now that I don't have faith in you, I just can't think of what the take would be. The problem is if I explained it, what the take is, it would fuck up the bit for people that haven't seen the bit. I'll show it to you tonight. Tonight you'll see. No, I'm going tonight, I can't wait to go see you. But I just wanted to. I'll explain off air. I'll explain off air. Okay. Yeah. You feeling good about the bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a fascinating subject. You know the guy, Commander Maurice of Adal Portman, you know who that guy is? No. He was the pervert that traveled around from island to island, measuring guys and taking weird photos with them dressing them up like Roman soldiers. I read a big piece about this, which I actually sent to you to see if you'd read it too. Yeah, I'd read. You said you read everything about it. Yeah, I'd read quite a few things about it because there was a guy on Twitter, his name is Respectable Law at Respectable Law, and he posted a whole series of things. He had actually been studying this case or this place before because of this pervert guy. And so when this man, this missionary, showed up on that island and got murdered, he knew all about the history of this island, so he made a chain of posts on Twitter, which were really interesting and informative. And then I started going deep into it, and I read the guy's journals. The journals were hilarious, man. The kid that got killed? No, the guy. Oh, the guy. The English pervert in the 1800s probably wrecked that whole area for those people because they had this idea of what white men are. Now, these people don't have a written language, and they just have stories. So they probably still have stories of these white men that come carrying diseases and want to touch your dick and measure them. Yeah, so this is a guy, he was into, I just want to make sure I remember this right, he was into skull morphology but with sexual organs. Well, he was, it's hard to tell what he was into, but it's so obviously perverted. Like, it seems like he was doing sexual stuff with these people. Trying to legitimize it by? Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, just measuring them and doing detailed descriptions of their sex organs. And he was really into that. That seemed very important to him. And he survived the island. I can't decide which to go with, my new Laird Hamilton turmeric coffee. Or the whiskey, mix it up back and forth. It's really interesting, it's like soup with coffee in it. It's very good for you too. Like I said, that turmeric, people think of it as curry because it's a great spice for food, but it's a potent anti-inflammatory. Very, very good for you. No, it's good. So I have to wait and see what your take on it is. Are you, I'm almost done interviewing you. Are you drawn to that, are you drawn to that idea? I certainly am. Which idea? That you'd go and hang out and spend time with those uncontacted people. Well, you've done it in, what part of South America were you at? Well, yeah. They're not uncontacted, but they're still not. They're definitely not uncontacted, but yeah. Some tribes like the Chamane and the Makushi and Wapashaun are all tribes in Northern South America, who have long, long history of contact and engagement with the outside world. But individuals who can still very much, like hanging out with individuals who aren't that old, who in their youth were very much like living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. With a mix of native materials and also some Western materials. And this was Guyana? Guyana and Bolivia. People that would still make their bows from native materials. People that grew up using canoes that were made, like hand dug, dugouts, using plant toxins to kill fish. But also other very modern stuff. One of these guys that I really appreciate hanging out with, Guy's got an email address. But, I might have told you a story before, he's got an email address, but he also told us about, we interviewed him on our show, on our podcast, and he's telling me about how their peccaries, their white-lipped peccaries aren't around right now, because there's a shaman in another village who's jealous of their village for being so prosperous, and has locked their peccaries up inside of a mountain. And that they're training their own shaman to free the peccaries from the mountain. And you can shoot this dude an email. Hmm?