Rob Zombie and Joe Rogan Bond Over Evel Knievel

Do you have long term plans? Like in terms of like what you want to accomplish as a guy who makes movies? Well, yes and no. I mean, I don't have a, I'm not trying to gear up towards making bigger films because I know I wouldn't work in that system because it's just not, I don't want to make things by committee. I want to go like, this is the crazy thing I want to do. And I don't want to water because I know so many people that'll be like, like our friend Tom Papa. I remember him telling me about his TV show Come to Papa. That it was like this certain idea. He said by the time the TV people watered it down and changed it, it gets on the air. He's like, well, it's so far removed from the original idea that I don't, you know, I don't want to do that. And you know, and so I would rather, my goal is just get it made, whatever it takes. Not worried about. Don't try to be blockbuster guy. I don't care. You know, had the Halloween movies were on 4,000 screens. It was like the number one movie made up, but it didn't make me any happier. It's just about making the thing where I can look at it and you're like, I love it. I'm done. Because, you know, that's at this stage. That's what I want to do. Yeah. The genre is still so attractive, but there's just not a lot of those examples other than like, well, your films are probably the most prominent currently. Well, I mean, if everything's meant, I mean, horror movies are big business, but if they look at it that way, then they start making them overly palatable to a wide audience. There's types of horror movies though. You know, there's like supernatural horror movies. There's monster movies, but then there's like homicidal maniac movies and you kind of own that shit. Redneck homicides. That's my genre. I mean, who's got it? You know, it's like the hills have eyes. Yeah. Right. And then you. There you go. Right. You know what I mean? It's like that kind of psychopath, chainsaw massacre type shit. I love white trash type stuff. Well, the Carney background. Because that's just, I was that typical kid who worshiped evil, Knievel, white trash kid. Oh yeah. I mean, that's. Maybe that would be a fucking movie, man. That would be a movie. That'd be a fucking movie, man. I worked with his son. I worked with Robbie Knievel. Robbie Knievel. Yeah. During the Fear Factor days. Oh really? Yeah, he did something on Fear Factor. Yeah, it was cool. He was a nice guy. But you know, I was like, damn dude, your dad was a fucking psycho. Yeah. That shit that that guy subjected his body to. It's crazy. And when you watch that shit and you watch the Philadelphia Flyers that time in the 70s it was fucking mental. It was mental. And you're just a little kid watching Evil Knievel and listening to Alice Cooper and watching hockey fights and that determines who you become. Yeah, Evil Knievel was just, I mean, there's a, I think it was a Rolling Stone piece of his body where they showed all of his X-rays and all of the bone breaks and steel rods that were various bones that were screwed together. I'm like, fuck man, what kind of pain was this guy in? I don't know. I mean, did you see that there's a fairly new documentary? I think it's called Being Knievel. I think it's amazing. Well, it's maybe a couple of years old actually, but yeah, just any one of those crashes. I think this is a famous one in London and he jumps over the double decker buses and you can see him land and the bike looks like it's made out of rubber and he looks like he's made out of rubber and you're like, it looks like every bone in his body just broke. And that's going to do it again and do it again. Oh God, I mean, that was his thing. Imagine that being your thing. Your thing is you fly through the air on something that's supposed to stay on the ground. A full size Harley that's not made for jumping or doing anything or landing for that matter. He doesn't have any particularly bouncy shocks or anything. It's just hitting like, boom, katunk. And just, oh my God. It's a weird thing to be that guy because there was, I mean, there was some people in the past that had done some pretty interesting shit and risked their lives, but he was doing it consistently with an engine. That was the thing about him. It's like- And he was one of the most famous people in America. Yeah, with the American flag suit. Yeah, it's like the fawns and evil, you know? Being kineval. You got to see that if you haven't seen it. It's amazing. Wow. Yeah, what a crazy character. And there's stuff in there that kind of blew my mind because we all remember the Snake River Canyon thing. But they were showing how out of control it was with the people that showed up and were so drunk and the crowds were fighting and crazy just on their own. It's just mental. Like just what was going on around the event. That's one of those things you can't really do today the same way. Like if someone jumps over things today, it's like so many people are jumping. You're not going to get famous that way because think about just the bananas shit those BMX guys do. Oh yeah. They're flipping three times in the air. It's commonplace almost. Yeah, no, watching Evil Kinead was like watching the original King Kong with your kids. Right. You know? It's like, oh, that was a big deal once? He jumped seven buses. Whatever. I did it on my bike. Yeah, that would be a great film. I don't know what you have to do now. Catch bullets with your bare hands. Like, that's rad. Bullet man. You know? Well, now there's people doing parkour and climbing buildings with no ropes. You ever watched that kid Alex Honnold? Do you know who he is? No. He's the free solo guy. Oh, the free solo guy, yeah. I still haven't seen that yet, but everyone's helping. He's so nice and so normal. When you talk to him, I've had him on the podcast a couple of times, and I'm like, how are you the guy that's wanting to climb the face of these fucking cliffs? And some of them, they're not straight up and down. They're leaning backwards. And then he's holding on by a finger. Yeah, he's got like hands wedged in these crack. Look at that picture. Yeah, that's my picture. That doesn't make you shit your pants. And he's getting older, and he's starting to get injured now, too. For the first time in his life, he's had, for a long time, he had no injuries, no problems. And he's been doing this a long time now. His body's not holding up the way it used to. When do you retire? Like when do you Muhammad Ali? You retire when evil can evil and you know it's done this stuff. And the finger slips on him. That's when you retire. I mean, that's what all of the people that have done it before him think. They think, look, this is going to end badly. It's crazy to be known as the guy who's doing something that scares the fuck out of everybody. Yeah. You're the guy that everybody's watching to eventually fall. Look at that. Look at the angle. Yeah, that doesn't even seem possible. Well, he's incredibly strong. His hands, like he's a slender, thin guy, but he has gorilla hands. Yeah. The fat ass fingers. And he just can shove them into these cracks and hang on in place. He was telling me a story about how he was free solo climbing this one mountain when he realized, you know, like fucking 300 feet up that he forgot his powder. So he's got no chalk. So he's, you know, things are getting slippery. He's climbing and he finds these guys that are connected to ropes halfway up. And he says, Hey, I don't have any powder. Can I borrow your chalk? So the guy gives him his chalk bag. He makes it all the way to the top and leaves the chalk bag at the top for the guy. It's like, what if those guys are like, that guy doesn't have any ropes. And he's going by. No ropes or chalk. He doesn't have any fucking chalk. Like, you know, like if you ever lifted weights, like with that bar gets slippery, it sucks. Like you need chalk to grip things. Right. So you can, you can really get ahold of stuff, but that's just weights. You could put the weights down. The worst fall is going to be three feet to the floor. Fuck. I can't, I can't even watch his stuff. I'm like, my hands are sweating right now. I haven't watched that, but I got to, and everyone's always talking. No, it's an amazing documentary, but he's a. Just a fascinating guy because it doesn't make sense. He's not like some Steve-o type guy. Yeah. Just a maniac and just like always trying to freak people out and do the next thing. Like, no, he's a real. I'm putting a rocket on a sharpen cart. Yeah. Crashing into a brick wall. Exactly. Exactly. Like when Steve-o comes up with ideas, like he'll tell them to me, I'm like, don't do that. Don't do that, man. Stop doing that. But I get it. That's who he is. He's a legitimate bonafide maniac. Alex Honnold guys, so calm and peaceful. You know, he said, like, he's like, well, you know, I'm pretty mellow. You know, it's like when the whole thing is pretty mellow. It's like when things go wrong, that's when it's not mellow. I'm like, Oh God. Yeah. That's kind of how everything is.