Ms. Pat on Developing Her Own Sitcom

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Ms. Pat

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Ms. Pat is a stand-up comic, host of “The Patdown” podcast, and star of the BET+ series “The Ms. Pat Show.” Her most recent special, “Y’all Wanna Hear Something Crazy?”, is streaming on Netflix. www.mspatcomedy.com

Jordan E. Cooper

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Jordan E. Cooper is a playwright, writer and co-creator & executive producer of "The Ms. Pat Show."

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I was nervous. When friends say I got a new show, you're like, oh, I gotta watch this shit. Because so many times you watch your friend's show and it's not good. Your show is fucking good. It's a real solid sitcom. So. Thank you. And right out of the gate, it's solid. You know, sitcoms take years to get their legs, at least a few episodes. But right out of the gate, your show is very solid. I wish you knew how hard it was for me to text you, to ask you to watch it. I typed the text and I was like, oh, I can't. Because I know how honest you are. And then when I was like, it took me months. And I was like, but I gotta ask him. Because I was like, if Joe like it, then I feel like it was a seal, a solid foundation. And I was like, if I could just, because I got Ory to watch it and he's like, he's really good. And I was like, I just want to see if Joe will watch it. And I know how fucking busy you are. And I kept, when I sent the text, I was like, oh my God. Oh my God, he's not gonna watch it. And when I hit you back, hey. And he was like, I'm in the middle of your ring, yo. What other fuck that word you use? You somewhere where birds don't have wings, but they still fly. You was on vacation. Where was I? Somewhere rich people go. Birds don't have wings, but they still fly? What kind of riddle is this? What the fuck? It's called a crack head. That's the solid riddle. Birds don't have wings, but they still fly? I just imagine, that's what you the fuck you was saying. I can't. I'm heavily placed. I can't afford to go. Oh, okay, I was on vacation. You was on vacation. I think you said you was in the Mediterranean, I'm fucking up the word. Probably the Caribbean. It started with a M. M? I don't fucking know. I was so, probably, you was texting. And when you started to text me, like what you, the jokes in the show, I was like, you don't know how much air went out of my titties that day, Joe. Ha! It's a good show. I'm very happy it's a good show. Very happy. It's rock solid. It really is. Thank you. We worked our ass out to get it. We sure did. It was so hard with a comedy, because to me comedy is so rehashed, and I feel like Hollywood is so out of ideal. That's why we get all these fucking reboots that even with the pilot, we went through their hand and toe to make sure you haven't heard it. Original jokes. All original jokes. The original jokes, a lot of it is my stand up. And so that was another thing. I was like, should I send Joe this? Oh, his auntie's opinion. And I asked you for your auntie's opinion. You was like, oh, I really don't want to watch it because I don't like watching my friends. I said, just watch the shit. You can't hurt my friends. And I've been shot. I've had gone to real. I've been hit by a freak fucking thing. Give it to me, Joe, like hard dick with no condom. And so you text back and I immediately text him, say, look what fucking Joe Rogan said. I can't, the N word. And I force you to say. Ha ha ha ha ha. Because your fucking podcast is so big. I'm, oh, she said the N word, I'll drop it. I can't. No, fuck you. But I immediately said. You said it in the past on here. Well, I take it. So I said, nigga, look what Joe. Ha ha ha ha ha. I said, wake your black ass up, nigga, Joe Rogan, like I was Joe. You're doing for me like I was Joe. And like I said, it takes a while. Like when I did news radio that was in the 90s, it took like four or five episodes before the show really started finding its way. It takes a while. It does. It does. I like for, I first saw Pat, like maybe I was a senior in high school. I'm 26 now. I was a senior in high school. My dad had recorded her on this daytime talk show. And he was like, you got to watch her. Harry Connick and Julie. Yes, Harry Connick and Julie. Harry Connick and Julie. I remember that show. You were on that show? Yes. Yup. Wow. My dad was like, you got to watch her. She's hilarious. You'll love her. You'll love her. And so I sat down and watched. And I just fell in love. Because I like to do the type of comedy where it's like, you laugh over the pain. You laugh over it. You laugh through it. And that's her life. That's her brand. And so I was like, damn. Whenever she gets a book, I'm going to read that damn book. I'm going to study it. That's going to be my shit. Then I got to college. Book came out. It was like $35. I couldn't afford it. So I screenshotted it. I was like, I'm going to come back and I'm going to get this book when I get some money. Never was able to get the book. But I wrote this play called Ain't No Mo that went to the public in New York. What's it called? It was called Ain't No Mo. And it was at the public theater. And Lee Daniels saw it. And after he saw it, he was like, hey, we're trying to do a TV show for this comedian. Her name is Miss Pat. But we don't really have a concept. Nobody really knows what they want to do. So can you just read her book and see if you can come up with a concept for a show? And I was just happy to get the damn book. But I read it. And I just fell in love. And I immediately saw this sitcom in my head. Because I'm a big fan of old school sitcoms, like All in the Family, The Jeffersons, Good Times, with a live studio audience. And I just felt like putting her in this dollhouse of a sitcom and just burning all of it down. Put your hands down, son. You got that. You talking with your hands. God damn. Joe Roney, yeah. That's how I talk. I'm a homosexual. We talk with our hands. Homosexual. He's expressing himself. He's trying to get me his own slack. Is that what he's doing? Yeah. He can throw it out. With the hands? That's what I guess it's a mating call. How do you get men with your hands? It's a mating call. Dick! Just moving it? Dick, you just said dick. I'm learning so much today. Birds who fly with their wings. This is how you get dick. Yes. Put your hands down, Joe. Get your hands down. Put your hands down. He's young. Oh, oh, oh. For you to be 26 and to create a show is pretty fucking amazing. It was a ride, Joe, because when Lee first brought this kid to me, and I'm honest, and I know Hollywood is full of shit. And it's so hard to get people in the industry not to sound like a talking fucking ten. Everybody said the same goddamn thing. And I was just, I have to break them down. Either you be honest with me or I don't fuck with you. So when I met him and Lee was like, oh, I got this kid. He fell out of heaven and da, da, da. And I'm like, OK, Lee. And he told me, I'm in fucking Utah, so I want to perform. He said, get your ass on the plane. You got to go see the plane. So last night, I said, I don't know if you know how this shit work, but I'm a comedian. I'll get paid to tomorrow. And I ain't going no goddamn way. I need my little pennies, OK? So they put me on the plane. I flew over to watch him. And I pick up me. I deal with people with spirits, your energy. I can just tell if you're a good person. I can tell when shit is going to happen. And when I met him, I said, he could do it. And the first thing I did, I called him. And I said, they're never going to give you this job. He said, but Lee said, they're going to hire me. I said, no, they're not. He said, why you say that? I said, because you ain't never did shit. And they don't understand. Hollywood want what everybody else is wanting. They don't want you until somebody else don't fuck you and bust your booty hole. I mean, take that out. Take that out. No, keep it in there. Keep it in there. Hollywood don't want you. But I didn't know. I didn't mean to say that. It's true. You did mean to say it. You meant it. You said fucker. You trying to get me counted. No, I'm trying to get you elevated. They don't want you until somebody else doesn't bust you in. It's true. It's true. And now you got all kind of interviews. But I signed them down. And I said, they're going to take you to fancy dinners and try to blow your fucking mind. I said, if you listen to a real nigga like me, we can do this. I said, now, I'm going to be honest with you. I said, why are you busting his ass to get this job for you? I said, but while Lee is busting his ass to get you this job, let me show you how to get this job. He said, what I got to do. I said, let's write a pilot behind these motherfuckers back. And I started to tell him what the other two writers want to listen to me on. And he listened. And we wrote that motherfucking about eight days. So when we finished it, I said, he put his name on it. I said, take your fucking name, my fucker. Which I was like, what? What? And let me tell you why I'm a hood bitch. I'm a hood. I mean, everything for me come from the knowledge that I got from streets. OK, you can never outsmart me because I'm fuck. You might can spell a word right, but motherfucker, I got Google. And two daughters with a college degree. So I get your ass back on that, too. So I told him, I said, take your name off of it. He's like, why? I said, because if they don't like it, they're not going to give you the fucking job. But if I tell them I did it, I'm the star of the show. They're going to, oh, Miss Pep, throw that shit in the trash can. We're going to get you a writer. So what we did, he took his name off of it. I said, well, you, I said, one thing you ain't never got to worry about me doing is stealing shit from you. I'm not that type of person. I said, what the fuck I look like stealing shit. These people know I can't spell all this shit correctly. And that's exactly what she did. She called Lee, and she sent it to Lee. And Lee called her and said, who the fuck wrote this? And she said, me. He said, no, you didn't bitch because everything felt right. And that's when I said, me and Jordan wrote. And you want to hear something so crazy. So this kid just graduated college, right? And he was like, just drop out of college. You're going to be a fan, right? So don't you drop out of fucking college. So I asked him, I said, you have final draft. He was like, no, he's poor as fuck. He said, I don't have final draft. I said, nigga, take my credit card. Take my debit card. Go buy you some groceries and buy final draft. All I imagined had me interview a writer's joke. Me and him, I said, right, nigga, right. They got me another interview. Right, nigga, right. But what's funny, though, is that it was something I was talking about this yesterday. It takes a lot to earn Pat's trust in that sense because it was like she was entrusting me with her comedy and her story. And so it was funny where I would write a draft of something and I would send it over to her. And she would read it. She'd be like, nigga, why you got me cussing? I said, because that's how you talk. She said, nigga, I don't motherfucker talk like that. Take that shit out. I said, no, that's how you talk. And I was like, we have to do a new kind of sitcom. I wanted to do something where it's like you could just be yourself because you look at all those old shows. You look at Sanford and Summer with Red Fox or even the Richard Pryor show that he had for like three seconds. It's like, imagine if he was just allowed to be himself. That show would have last forever. You know what I mean? Well, Sanford and Son, Red Fox got as close as you can get on the network television show to be in Red Fox. Yep, exactly. About as close as you can get. Exactly. But they don't do those anymore. They scared. And when he came to me and he said, well, actually, after we wrote the pilot, they immediately gave him a job. After we wrote the pilot, they was like, this kid can write. And I told him, I said, see, I know the fuck I'm talking about. Because Hollywood is so stripped that they scared the step outside the box. They're going to give you the same old bullshit. We need a black writer. Well, that black writer might not understand what the fuck Ms. Pat trying to do. And I went through a few that did not understand what I was trying to do. With him, I took him and I said, if you just listen, we can create something. Just listen to these stories. I just need you to put the shit in the right form. And he did. And he got the fucking job. Watch the entire episode for free only on Spotify.