Movie Producer Brian Grazer Reviews Joker | Joe Rogan

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Brian Grazer is a film and television producer and screenwriter. He co-founded Imagine Entertainment in 1986, with Ron Howard. His new book "Face to Face: The Art of Human Connection" is now available: https://www.amazon.com/Eye-Contact-Power-Personal-Connection/dp/1501147722

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What did you think of the Joker? Okay. I have to break the Joker down because I know a lot of people that are moralistically very against it. Yes. You know, my generation is really mad at it. I thought as a movie, that movie was really badass. That movie was, I thought it was really good. Masterpiece. Masterpiece. Oh my God, those sequences and the going down the stairs and the music choices. That was a masterpiece. It was amazing. I loved it. Now, this other unit that you, you know, if the movie is broken down into two units, the one is the masterpiece we're calling of the movie itself. And then what's, you know, what are the themes that are giving life to this movie? Or the purpose? Or what's the purpose? I mean, you could go, well, that could be, you know, that, you know, there could be some bad stuff in there, you know, or, but I'm not deep enough to know, I could identify it exactly. And having made so many movies, I can't be judgmental of it. I liked it. And so I just feel like people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. That's what I think. That's a good way of looking at it. How do you see it? Could you ask? I thought it was brilliant, but very disturbing. Yeah. It was supposed to be disturbing. And I think they accomplished their goal, you know, with flying colors. I think it was a very, very unusual movie. Very difficult to find any parallels with any other previous movie. Yeah, exactly. I thought it was fucking amazing. Yeah, I thought it was. When I left, I didn't feel good. Yeah. I didn't feel like that. It was like, wow, what a great movie. I was like, fuck. I walked out of the theater like, fuck. Yeah, it just blows your way. Yeah. And me and my wife talked about it for a long time. How was she on it? She loved it. Oh, cool. But it's not her kind of movie. Yeah. But it was, there was something about it. It was so well executed, and Joaquin Phoenix was amazing. It was kind of operatic in some sense. Yeah. I mean, where the music and everything was... Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the buildup to it too, there was so much going on and so much madness. And so, you understood. You felt empathy for this guy who was ultimately a monster and a murderer. Yes. Spoiler alert. But you felt for him. Yeah. In that sense, they managed to navigate those incredibly treacherous waters brilliantly. Yeah. I thought it was fucking awesome. Yeah, good. Me too. I mean, that director's great. Yeah. No, he's great. You Phillips is amazing. I'm sure you know him. I don't. I have friends who know him. He's in the Count, he was in the Hangover, and he was in this movie briefly too. Yeah. Okay. But I don't know. Yeah. So, that's that.