Mike Tyson on Why He Smokes Weed | Joe Rogan

When did you start like regularly smoking weed? Um, since I was like 10 years old. The whole time you were fighting you were regularly smoking weed? Well you know when you're a kid your mother gives you liquor and marijuana for you to think that you're gonna go to sleep or something. Yeah. Really? Yeah. That never happened in my house. Never going to, yeah. No mother's alcohol or liquor. Damn. That's harsh. Liquor and marijuana, see if you go to sleep. Yeah. It didn't work. I don't think so. No. I think so. Do you, what benefits do you get out of marijuana? Like what does it do for you? Hey man, if I didn't I'd have a bad day. Yeah I'm a really moody guy without it. And it just, it smooths me out so that I take out my whole different person. I'm really on top of my game. I'm ballin'. Yeah I feel the same way sometimes. It makes me nicer. Yeah. Yeah. It calms me down. Do you, um, do you smoke? I like who I am when I smoke. You know what I mean? When I'm, when I'm weed I don't sometimes like who I am sometimes. That's just the real sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like that guy. I want to get away from that guy. Well you know I was talking to Michael Ervin once. He was explaining to me that when children grow up in high stress environments that their genes are wired to have a propensity towards violence. That if they're norm, if it's normal, if it's around them all the time, when they're, when they're growing up and when they're in the womb. Yeah. I agree. When their mother's under extreme stress. Yeah. I agree. When they're in a bad neighborhood. And it's, it's hard for some people like yourself that did grow up in an environment like that to ever reach where you're at right now. Just a place of peace. And if you can do that through marijuana or whatever it is, yoga, meditation, whatever, whatever you do to get there. Like we should be happy that you can get there. That's what we want. Listen, I am so grateful that I embarked on this. You know, I've never been a person to this. It's magnitude of this kind of relaxation. I just enjoyed my time with you. I was very uptighted. And I guess I was very uncomfortable with myself. Did you feel any better after you worked out when you were young like that? Absolutely. But my work's out. You know what? The best thing that ever happened to me that we tied from boxing is me working out and me getting out. I was so intense with this. My whole, my whole objective was hurting people and wanting to be the best. And my ego took over and I'm like Tyson, I'm the best ever living, all this bullshit. And dealing with my partner, Rob Hickman, I happened to embark on this, come across this thing called the toad. Are you familiar with the toad? Yeah. What you're talking about is five methoxy. Oh, that's it right there. Yeah. And I came across that. I smoked this, I don't know, this medicine, drug, whatever you want to call it. And I've never been the same. I look at life differently. I look at people differently. And this experience I can't even express really. It's almost like dying and being reborn. Yeah, I had the exact same experience. That's what it felt like to me too. Like you stop existing. The five methoxies, there's two. Tell me what's the deal with it? What the hell's going on here? Five methoxies produced by your brain. But what it is, is it's DMT with an oxygen molecule attached to it. So regular DMT is NN dimethyltryptamine. And then five methoxy dimethyltryptamine is DMT with like a very, there's a very subtle change to the molecule. And that subtle change. For some reason takes away the visuals. You've done regular DMT too, right? Yes. Regular DMT is rich with visuals, very strained, bright, colorful, impossible to describe visuals. It's inconceivable. Inconceivable is the best way to put it. Yeah, inconceivable. I tried to explain it to some people, my wife, and I used, it's just, I don't have the words to explain it. That's exactly what I always say. I've done a terrible job explaining it to everybody every time I've tried. It just doesn't work. But all those things, I've done a terrible job explaining it to everybody. But all those things, they give you perspective. It's almost like you're dying. You're submissive, you're humble, you know, you're vulnerable, but you're invincible. Still and all, you know, it's just that weird feeling. Well, you feel like you're part of the universe. When you're separate from your ego, you realize this whole thing, you're a part of this whole thing, and this whole thing is unstoppable. It's just, it's a gigantic, huge, all encompassing, almost like a living thing. You know, Joan, this is what I also realized too, after going through that experience. You realize how insignificant you are sometimes without your ego. Yes. You know, you're right. It's why you're not really much that you really thought you were. Yeah, you are and you aren't. Obviously, you are in everyday life. I mean, you go places, you have a dramatic effect on people. You mean a lot. You mean a lot to those people that you run into. You mean a lot to the people that you love and that love you. But we all do. And when no one stands, no, it's all relative. No one, no one is irreplaceable. But everyone is special to someone or something, and at least to themselves. But we're all the same. We're all a part of this weird, crazy, gigantic, huge, huge, huge thing. 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