Mike Tyson on His Comeback Fight and Being Challenged by Jake Paul

What was it like fighting again after all those years? Hey listen, I did this toll, this DMT stuff. Right. And I just I lost that weight and I said I don't know what happened. I just don't know what happened. I said I'm gonna do this. Well it's funny because you talked to me on the podcast before. The first time you came on and you said I can't even work out. Yes. I said if I work out my ego will get excited. But I did this toll and he told us he gotta do this and you have to do it. The toll told you. You have to do it. The DMT told you time to fight. You have to do it. I lost the weight. And it started off with me at first fighting Bob Sapp at first. That's right. The K1 event. I was there for that. I was there live. No but I mean I was gonna fight. Yeah when you got in the ring with him you said Marcus Queensbury rules. Yeah but listen the fight I fought with Roy Jones was supposed to be with Bob Sapp. Oh really? Oh no kidding. Hell yeah. I wouldn't have to chase this guy all around. So next thing you know it got, Roy Jones got involved and other fighters, Holyfield got involved and then it turned into a fiasco and then the young guy, Jake Paul. Yeah. He got involved then and that's how you, that's how the birth of Jake Paul began. When you get challenged by someone who's a guy like a Jake Paul, does that piss you off? Not at all. Is it part of it that just like, No it doesn't. No? I think it's awesome. Do you think it's awesome? Yeah because it pisses me off. I think it's cool. You think it's cool? That's awesome. That's awesome that you handle it that way. Because like in a way, I mean it's kind of insulting. It's brave, it's bold of him, but it's also, it's like Jesus Christ, there's levels to this world. Let me know what I found out. This gentleman, he was a mayor in this town in the Midwest where he had talked to me for, and he was one of those stern guys. He always got the bills paid, always got your lights on, always got everything right and perfect, but he didn't have a good personality. And he almost fell off to a guy that didn't do anything. He didn't make anything. He shitted on people's tags, he messed it, but he hung out with the people. He smoked cigarettes with him, he drank with him, he ate with him, he hung on that porch with him. And that's when you learn, you can't take yourself too serious. I mean the world will turn on you if you take yourself too serious. Who the hell am I to take myself too serious? Made all this money, got this reputation, and now I'm looking at people screw, screw, screw, screw facing them now. I have a great life. I don't want to be mad at somebody really when you think about it. When my ego's not involved, how can I really be mad at somebody? That's beautiful. That's a beautiful attitude, and you're so right because there's so many people that are so concentrating on, they're concentrating so much on succeeding and doing great things. That was me, I just wanted to win so bad. I wanted to be somebody so bad, it was the new funny. And you forget what life is about. Life is about, thank you, life is enjoying moments. Life is a balance and life is a, your legacy is not what you accomplish, it's what your children say about you at the end of the day. They know who you are, they know what you're hiding, that you don't know what else to see. I'm sure you are a fan of Miyamoto Musashi, I'm sure. Tell me about the Japanese warrior. Book of Five Rings. Yes. He was all about balance, that was his whole thing. A samurai has to be an artist, you have to be able to do calligraphy, you have to be able to paint, you have to be able to write poetry. He felt like if you had any imbalance, like if you were too aggressive or too peaceful, like any imbalance was dangerous. He's like you had to be perfectly centered, so you had to be a person who understood all things. That's true too. You had to do artwork, everything. That's true, but everybody can't express themselves being centered. People have to be totally insane to express themselves, totally introverted to express themselves, and I don't know why it's like that. I think he's talking about it from a point of fighting with swords. Self-control. Yeah. Most fighters, our main problem is self-control. That's what I mean, being with self, yes. Yeah, and it gets worse as you get more successful, more destructive, and more conqueror, you're the fucking guy on Sports Illustrated, you're the fucking man. I mean, it's just when you're a guy who's in a position like you were in when you were 20 years old, like I've had this conversation with many people, like do you understand the kind of self-control it would take to be the baddest man on the planet and you're only 20? Yeah, it takes a lot of self-control. It's crazy. It's a crazy position to be in. So imbalance at that point in your life was almost impossible, to be like a multiple-sauce into that balance. It wasn't no balance. It was strict fighting, no gross. It's strict, it's too much this, it's this, it's this. That was bad. Oh, god, fuck. I can't make that happen again. I got spawned too bad of tomorrow. That was bad. Okay, I got to move my head. I got hit today. I got a black guy. Oh, god, Cuss is going to be mad at me if you see me do this, if you see me get hit. It was just everything was on being perfect. Do you think that's what it takes to make someone who is as good as you, as young as you, you have to be completely obsessed? Me, my case, I'm an obsessed mentality type of person. And at that point in time, I mean, to achieve what you achieved so quickly too, you met Cuss when you were like what, 13? 12. So from 12 to 20. I mean, that's wild. That's a wild ride. 12 to 19, that was 19. But the fact is that I put so much of myself into the box of my emotions and everything. That was magnificent. That was great. But then when I came to life, it was disastrous. Imagine being the guy that's just so, boom, always in the person's face. Hey, hey, that's what, hey, baby, I love you. Hey, hey, what's that? Hey, hey, what's that? I'm just that manic type of person. With everything. Yeah. Yeah. I love you, but he's going to stop that. Hey, what I do? Hey, stop that. I'm sorry. No, no, no, I'm going to do it again. Oh, man.