Mike Baker: Why Mail In Voting Could Lead to Widespread Chaos

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Mike Baker

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Mike Baker is a former CIA covert operations officer and current CEO of Portman Square Group, a global intelligence and security firm. He’s also the host of the popular "President’s Daily Brief" podcast: a twice daily news report on critical events happening around the globe available on all podcast platforms. www.portmansquaregroup.com

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What do you think is going to happen? I agree with you when you said earlier that you can't believe the polls, right? So I don't believe the polls. I think people are tired of the, who are exhausted from just sort of the general drama of having somebody like Trump in the office. So I think there's a potential for a lot of people who may like the policies or some of the policies and prefer them to a hard left agenda or a left agenda. I think there's a chance for them to say, oh fuck it. I just, I'm too tired and I don't want that. And maybe they'll look at Biden and think, eh, it's a return to some normalcy. Will there be debates? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll bet there ends up being one. Well, if there's a debate, that's where it all falls apart. That's where the wheels come off. Get ready. Get ready to fucking get Trump campaign manager. We want more debates against Biden and sooner. The first one, September 29th, maybe they're probably pumping Biden up with steroids and alpha brain right now. Could you imagine being a lab somewhere? They got a VAT from on it. It goes right into fucking Ivy. I think I heard there's something like 16 states would already technically be done. Yeah. What done by voting by September 29th. They want to try to have some before that, but I think they're only supposed to have three or something. That's great. Say that one more time. 16 states could be finished by that time. 16 states will already have voted. Because they're doing it with mail-in ballots. Yeah. God, this is going to be so strange. This is going to be such a contested election no matter what, and I'm really worried about the chaos that could ensue after it's over. Well think about that. I mean, look, I'm a big fan of going to the voting booth, actually getting out, driving, walking, pulling the fucking lever. Can't they do it outside? Yeah. Sure. Can't be social distanced. Whether permitting, but fine. I think the problem is, look, until Trump talked about the problems with the post office and mail delivery and the idea that we're going to have mail-in ballots as opposed to absentee ballots, before that, what? Nine out of 10 people, that's not statistically accurate, but I'm sure a lot of people would have said, the fucking postal system, they can't deliver the mail. But now, because Trump comes out and says, it's going, oh my God, I love the postal system and he's trying to destroy the postal system. And I'm thinking, oh. It's like what he did with hydroxychloroquine. Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. Right, right. Look, and I've ordered hydroxychloroquine through the mail, and it hasn't arrived. So what am I to think? But I- It's the touch of death. But can you imagine if we have an election where you do this and then you don't know the results for five or six or seven days because they're still counting ballots, right? Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah, can you imagine what that reporting is going to be like? And all the paranoia on both sides, the right and the left going up, exactly what? The whole thing is that period of time could be fucking crazy. These really crazy, right wing, the really nutty conspiracy folks, how are they going to handle that? Yeah, well that's it. And you got people on both sides, right? He's not limited to one part of the spectrum. So you got people on both sides. And if you, the beauty of the elections in the past have been by the end of the night, you got a winner, right? And now if you don't know and you can't tell me that, and it's not, I'm just saying the realities are you got to be pragmatic. You want to go with all mail ballots or whatever? Hey, just be aware of the fact that you could have a lot of problems, a lot of disqualified ballots because of a variety of reasons, a lot of lost ballots. And so if what you want to do is sow chaos and dissent and further this divide, then yeah, that's a pretty good way to do it. Or you can figure out how to fucking get everybody to the ballots, right? To the polling booths and make that happen. Just fucking do it. And if you want to have voting booths where people wear masks and hazmat suits and everything, fine, right? But figure out a way to get people to the voting booth because, and it's not, I don't think that the mail-in thing could be wrought with fraud like the White House, like Trump is, it could be lots of fraud. I think it's just pragmatic says you could have a lot of logistical problems with that. Well, I don't understand why they can't vote online. Why can you bank online, but you can't vote online? How's that not? Yeah. The thing is, if you could vote online, if people didn't have to physically go to a place, you know how many more people would vote? It'd probably be insane. Because what is the number now? Like what percentage of people now vote? Is it like 40%? Yeah, somewhere in the 40 percentile. I bet we get that bitch up to 70. Yeah. I bet we get it up pretty high. If you could register on your phone and vote on your phone, my God, why can't you do that? Well there's security issues related to that, as we all know, in terms of the hijacking of the security of the system that would be in place. People who click on every fucking link someone sends them in a text message. What's that click? There's that. No, I agree with you in the sense that it would, theoretically, it would improve the turnout for sure. For sure. And it would certainly make life easier for a lot of people. As with, and again, my issue with the mail isn't the fraud issue so much as just the logistics of it, right? And that delay. And also the potential to have a lot of ballots just being disqualified or being put in question. The same thing with online voting. I'm just worried about the chaos. I'm worried about the chaos. I'm worried about the civil unrest. I really think that that could be the big one. I think we should, you know what? I think if Congress would do its job, they would just say, you know what? The elections are coming. They're going to be right on time and you're going to go to your voting polling places and we're going to put in place special times for elderly citizens to vote if they want to have a super safe environment. They can only vote, like just like you do at Costco. Costco in our area had like seven to nine AM was only for people over 60. Fine. If Costco can do that shit, I'm pretty sure we could do that with voting booths. Yeah. Why would, how hard would that be? Just make it happen. Yeah. Do temperature checks, socially distance everybody. Everybody wears a mask. Do it right. Give it plenty of time. Set up enough booths. And if you want to do it over a two day period, fine. Why not? But at least your, at least you're establishing protocols that are, are, are, are, yeah, I don't know. I worry about the chaos. I mean, if you're going to let people vote by mail in September, how about let them show up at the polls that early as well? So you really could socially distance everybody. You really could absolutely ensure that everybody's safe. Yeah. Just spread it out. Yeah. Spread it out. Over a designated period of time, we have five business days. And you'd have to like open scoring like a boxing match. It would be fucking tremendous. As you roll up on the voting booth, you got the numbers right up there. So it's like a Jerry Lewis telethon. I'm going to go in here and fix this.