Mike Baker: I Like Bill Clinton! - Joe Rogan

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Mike Baker

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Mike Baker is a former CIA covert operations officer and current CEO of Portman Square Group, a global intelligence and security firm. He’s also the host of the popular "President’s Daily Brief" podcast: a twice daily news report on critical events happening around the globe available on all podcast platforms. www.portmansquaregroup.com

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Here's what's crazy. Trump doesn't seem to be aging. Everybody else ages so hard. Yeah. They age so hard because they're paying attention to everything and they have real concern. Well, yeah, that seems to be just like a fucking water on a duck's back. Well, you know, maybe he's, he's going to outlive us all. Maybe he's figured out how to avoid the stress. You don't seem any older. Oh, you remember what President Obama looked like when he finally walked out of office or Bill Clinton. I saw Bill Clinton not too long ago. We went down a little rock and you saw him. Yeah. He was at an event that we were, it was a relatively small dinner and was he chasing pussy? Don't lie. Yeah. I'm not saying he touched me inappropriately, but you know, I want to know where I got my burner phone. I would love to be a fly on the wall in a room with that guy. But I will say this much about him. He was, uh, we started talking. I thought I was just going to go up and shake his hand and say, you know, Hey, yeah, Ms. President, you know, good to see you. Cause I, I always liked the guy, right? And okay. You know, aside from his obvious, you know, issue and the problem he had in terms of his ability to, to, to, to govern and the fact that he's a smart son of a bitch. Um, and he, um, I just found him, uh, you know, capable of the job, right? I just like it there with president Bush and you know, there were good aspects of president. I don't have a dog in the hunt, right? I mean, I'd rather see the results in the person, but anyway, talking to president Clinton, he, uh, we started talking and, and he immediately went to a, uh, an old, uh, agency operation and old thing that had happened, um, during his time when he was president to talk about it. Right. And, and you could tell that he, I mean, he had retained a tremendous amount of information, right? And we were talking. And, and we ended up talking for 15 minutes or so, just kind of about this particular incident. And he was kind of curious and he wanted to, you know, he wanted to recount kind of some of the thought process that they were, you know, going through. And, and I found it really interesting in the sense that that was it. It was a surprisingly, um, deep conversation, right? For some and he, and he's curious. And I always thought that was the most important quality for anybody who gets in that job is he's, they have to be curious, right? They have to be inquisitive. And, um, you know, on the scale of, you know, presidents, where does the current president, you know, exist in the curiosity scale? I don't know, but I think that's probably not his strong suit. So maybe that's one of the reasons why he's not aging is because he's, you know, he's not asking that fourth or fifth question that leads you to the point where you go, Oh, that's a pretty fucked up situation. Now we got to worry about that one. Yeah. So maybe it is, you know, water off the back. And he's, and he's, uh, he's figured out a way to deal with stress. Well on the plus side, he seems to be making business owners happy. He seems at least ones that aren't affected by the sanctions against China because there's like steel manufacturing and a lot of other companies that are very upset by. Yeah. Well, I think it's the regulations that they've done that they haven't really touted, uh, in terms of deregulating some of the things that I mean, cause like the previous administration, you know, a lot of good points, but some bad points. One of the bad points was sort of, um, the hamstring of industry through overregulation on everything. Right. And so lifting some of that, you know, there's this, you know, you can argue whether, you know, you want bigger government or less government, but you can't argue with the fact that it, it did unleash, you know, uh, industry and business, um, more than the previous administration. So that's a good thing. Um, but yeah, look at all the other concerns. I mean, now we're talking about a, you know, a global slowdown, right? Because you know, China's numbers are looking soft. Germany's looking soft. What does that mean? Everybody's worried about Brexit. So there's, there's a lot of things for people to be focused on, you know, um, and I worry sometimes that all we do here in the States is kind of like chase the next, you know, shiny ball of tinfoil. Cause we're all a bunch of raccoons, right? Where we have such a short attention span for everything.