Liberals Who Refuse to Talk to Trump Supporters w/Iliza Shlesinger | Joe Rogan

I haven't done it. I haven't done it. I haven't traveled to England since the whole Brexit thing has been going on. I did. I went through touring and it should have just been like just hop on a plane to go to your other countries. Nah, you gotta go through customs. You just stuck in customs hoping someone comes for you. I don't know enough about the arguments pro and con to comment on it, honestly. Well, and it truly doesn't matter because we don't have a vote in it. But I know the dude looks like a British version of Donald Trump. Yeah. He looks like they don't. He's got fucked up yellow hair, the whole deal. Literally looks like their version of Trump. Like a wonkier if it's possible. A younger, wonkier Trump. A hotter. He's a little hotter. A little bit. They say America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold. Oh, interesting. You know, like we do something people will start to. Imagine if dudes with fucked up blonde hair just start taking over the world. I feel like that was Hitler's vision. Like I feel like that's where they were headed. That was, right? Right? What was crazy was like Hitler didn't look like that. Brown hair. I think he even had like a Jewish grandma. Brown eyes. Every Jew knows this. He had a Jewish grandma. I think it's something like that. Look at that guy. Come on. What in the fuck? He looks like Harry from Dumb and Dumb. Actually, I take it away. He's not hotter. He's just younger. When Trump was younger, he was way hotter than that dude. No, that guy's terrible. Terrible looking. Yeah. But uh. There's a lot of Trump supporters this weekend. It's Colby Covington was fighting in the UFC and he's a big Trump supporter. You know what? I got to say this. This is not pro-Trump, but this is pro your own rights. We have this thing in California. I said something. I was in a writer's room and I said something about someone who I knew that voted for my family that voted for Donald Trump and they were like someone was like someone in your family voted for Donald Trump. Do you still speak to them? And I was like don't get hyphy with me this idea that you can't I understand he represents all these horrible things, but we have to be able to have conversations in this country and on both sides and other liberals at times and I say this as a person who's fairly liberal. It's terrifying. Yeah, just attacking your own allies and creating no space for a conversation. Well liberals used to be when I was a kid and my parents are hippies. We lived in San Francisco when I was a little kid and so I always thought of liberals as being the people that were like open-minded, you know, not wanting to silence people letting people speak. They're all about people just being whoever who they are and not not trying to enforce like rigid patterns of behavior and thought on people, but that's not the case now because they think they're doing the right thing because they think they're combating something that's awful and aggressive and regressive, you know, that something that is that they feel like the country that they know and love is slipping away. So they're so do the conservative. So does everyone but the response to it is not the right way to go about it. The response to it is to show a great example of what your your ideology represents by being a good person by being open-minded by being kind instead people are being super super shitty. There's so many super super shitty people that think they're doing the right thing because they're progressive and all they want good things. They want gay rights and they want racial equality and they want people to be able to make more money and they want to be happy and healthy. Attacking anyone who from the get-go doesn't agree with you because by the way, if you if you and I disagree and you calmly want to have a conversation with me, I am very open to having my mind change. Of course, I want to be on the right side and I want to do the best thing. If you yell at me and you call me stupid, call me all and you're attacking me and you're on the defense from the get-go you're on the offense from the get-go, but just as a person with pride, you're going to want to be like, you know what? I don't want to hear it and fuck you because you represent now all the good intentions like you're the representative of all that and I don't like you. Yeah. So you are you're an ambassador for your cause when you speak. I'm really into the environment and plastic and stuff like that and I am very specific about how and when I post about things because you don't want people to get activism fatigue and you don't want to be the person who posts about everything because then no one will listen to anything right and you don't want to call people out specifically because just because somebody carried a plastic bottle that day doesn't mean they don't drive a hybrid. You don't know what people are doing right? You see Chris Pratt. Yes, that's literally what I'm thinking of and while I love that he did that part of me is like that's a little holier than now. You shamed him. Jason Momoa is so fucking hot. So hot. He's not but we were so especially online. We're so quick to be like you're not doing it right. We do it with feminism too and you have no idea right the pious good life that person is leading and you're judging them on a snapshot on which you don't want to be judged on. Well, they want to judge people. The thing is about it's a lot of what this is about people that are on the fringes. It's the ideas are great, right? But the people that want attention for espousing these great ideas oftentimes are the fringe. So the far left and the far right a lot of it what it is. It's just people that are ultra aggressive about enforcing their ideology and then they're really shitty and they want other people to comply and so you get these people that represent the right and these people that represent the left but they're a lot of the ideas of the right and the left. There's nothing wrong being fiscally conservative. There's nothing wrong with being social. Which is what a true Republican is. Right. You want less government in your money. There's room in there for conversation. But when you go far right and then you go far left then there's no room and when you start vilifying people from the get-go and when you start expecting people I Owen Benjamin who is just basically is like in a tinfoil hat somewhere and like living off the grid. He offended a lot of people right. You're staring at me. Yeah, no more snow. And he said a bunch of stuff about trans stuff and I remember there was this girl that I was friends with on social media didn't know her but just followed her because I liked her writing. That's it and she dames me one day and she's like she's like Owen Benjamin like how could you be like maybe I I don't know if I'd interacted with him on Twitter. I'm never on Twitter because I think it's a toxic fuckhole and she was like she's getting mad at me and I go what are you talking about? She was like he said all this stuff that's anti-trans and I hadn't heard anything. Well, let me let me say what he said. Okay, and here's the thing. He went off into a spiral, right? But I agree with what he said. What he said was there was someone that he knew someone who works in Hollywood that had a three-year-old that they were turning trans right and he said that that was child abuse. That was what led. I don't disagree with that crazy situation. Totally. This is I know I agree with it. 100% disagree with that. Yeah, I agree with him 100%. You wouldn't let that child decide what it's eating. Right. So that's a very great joke. You don't let I always say this. I wish I could remember who it was. They said you don't let a kid pick their outfit. Why the fuck would you let them pick their gender for the rest of the joke I just made? Yeah, but it's somebody did it already. Right. I'm not going to do the joke. But so that aside and the spiral aside which I didn't even participate like it's whatever like those are your choice. That's what you're saying. I had known but this is a thing that cost him dearly his agency left him and then comedy clubs banned him for that. That was the beginning. He just steered into that skid. Well, that's but that's what started the skid right what started the skin was there was something else about like he called someone who had written a look this that's not the point of what I was saying went south afterwards. You have to manage those things. My point was I knew none of this. So I'm just like going to brunch one day and this person starts attacking me offline. How can you be friends with him and I go whoa, what are you talking about? She's like he's saying all these horrible things and I attack you in person. She's in my like direct message. And this is my only point is I said I've known Owen most of my career. Let me go read what you're talking about and she was angry at me for wanting to gather information. This person is a trans writer who I literally until that moment didn't know was trans because I was just a fan based on merit. Like I just like the writing and I said, how dare you? Shame on you as a journalist. You should applaud that. I go and collect my facts. They want compliance like immediate instantaneous compliance. I said I'm an ally and I am pro-trans and I am pro-gay rights, but you do not get to bark at me on a Sunday morning when I have no idea what we're talking about and get mad at me. I'm sorry. I don't trust anyone who says they're an ally about anything. I'm a total. I said, but you say that if you say I'm an ally. I'm an ally. You think I'm anti-trans? I'm not buying it. I vote and I hate Mrs. Doubtfire. That's a little enough. How she is just the term allies gross. It's okay when other people use it like he's an ally that guy's an ally. She's an ally. I get that. That's a good way to use it. But when you say I'm an ally, I'm like meh, okay. Well, I'm pro-trans good for you and I unblock that person. I was like you don't get to bark at me and tell me for any cause. Yeah, I too many fucking people live on Twitter. It's not good. It's not healthy folks. I don't have my talk to people Twitter is it's becoming like a subway bathroom wall. Like people just show Wolf told me the exact same thing last week. She doesn't have it on her phone because you're just screaming into a void and all it does is just it just nets negativity. So they're just waiting for you to fuck up by the way anybody who's ever said anything awful to me on Twitter who I've seen in person. They say nothing and I'm yeah, I'm well, it's the only way people should talk is face-to-face. Yeah, Louis CK said that to me. We're talking about this and he said it's just talk but it's written down. So people think it's like more than it is.