Killer Mike Explains His NRA Interview | Joe Rogan

Here, Willa Walker says the rest of country music is just biting rap and acting like they are so. Well, I think it was a little bit of that, but I think at one point in time, it was a little that a lot of rappers would look at guys like Waylon Jennings and Johnny Cash and old school gangster country guys. Outlaw country is way different from today. I love outlaw country. You can't tell me Waylon Jennings, Chris Christofferson, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash aren't kicking out. Like that's what the fuck is up, right? Yeah. But that's not the same as you allocating a Nelly beat to your song and talking about Cowboy Boost and Set Air Force once. No. Not the same. There's something about the Allman Brothers Midnight Rider and Whipping Post that's radically different than you just singing about your Ford and rafting on Saturdays with your chick. Yeah. I don't think people even understand Tied to the Whipping Post. You can't fake that song. When they came at me about the NRA interview last year, every day I smoked a joint, woke up and laughed and listened to that record. Every single day, I just wanted you guys to know it didn't bother me any. My wife just told me to shut up talking to you all. We went shooting a lot more and we play Allman Brothers Whipping Post every morning because I had to remind myself that this is normal, that you're being done like this publicly because you are disagreeing with the system that people have agreed to that you don't agree to and it's okay not to agree. So Allman Brothers really got me through that segment and stopped me from punching a lot of bourgeoisie black people in the face. Well you're a proponent of your right to carry a gun. Yeah. And I'm a lover of the United States Constitution as a whole of all our rights and amendments. But in particular, the First and Second Amendment rights matter to me as an African American and as an American. First and foremost, as an African American, I've only been free 55 years. My parents were born and apartheid. And as an American, we are a country that broke off from what we felt like was a tyranny of a monarchy. And we did that because farmers and guns dared to wage guerrilla warfare against at that time one of the largest armies and navies in the world. So I honor that by continuing to be in the spirit of those farmers, you know, in the continuance of Chris Facetics, the first person to die in the American Revolution, was a black man. So for me, I would dishonor those patriots who started this country and Chris Facetics and I would dishonor the lineage as an African American who's only 55 years into freedom by giving government my gun back. It's not something I believe in. Government is people. Part of the problem with giving government anything is that they're just people. They're not something special. Absolutely. They're not flawless. Absolutely. You give people power over you and there's, they will, I mean, this is not saying we should stockpile guns and point them at the government, but if people have guns, it's way harder to just take over cities. Absolutely. Absolutely. That shit happens all the time in other countries. Absolutely. It does happen. Absolutely. Absolutely. Where people get occupied. Absolutely. And it's changed the rules and places that were democracies are no longer so. Absolutely. That's real. And we're never far from it. As safe as you feel, you're never far from it. But I think what we need more of is people like you that are reasonable, very educated in the matter, a very articulate person who comes from a place where they don't expect that argument to come from. Yeah, I understand. You know, like you think about left wing people or democratic people, progressive people. You always think, you know, you think about democratic people overwhelmingly being appreciated by the black community and you always associate them with being anti-gun. Yeah. That's a common thing. So when a guy like you steps out and says, no, no, no, I think it's a disservice to take this right away. Absolutely. And if I didn't support it and fight for it. I've been an African American 40 something years now, right? I have known Democrats primarily my entire life. I'm from the South, in particular, the Southeast, Alabama, Georgia, Florida. I have never known a black male Democrat that was working class that did not own a weapon. So I'm going to follow the examples of my grandfather. I'm not going to listen to the national party and their rhetoric about the arm in the population. I think obviously we could agree that we would all love it if we never needed guns. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Right. Of course. Who wouldn't? I'd rather not need it than be prepared, though. Yes. To not be prepared. Sure. Right. Better to have it not to need it, to need it not to have it. And what you do often, like I'm from a party country. I grew up fishing, hunting, growing food. My sister grows food. Don't get to hunt us regularly now. Still fish occasionally shots out to Greg Street. One of our biggest DJs down there is a great fisherman, right? But this is as normal in my part of the country as not having straws and being able to smoke in public in places like L.A. It's just it's not that big of a deal. You know, you you know, in my in my mind state, a household should have five guns, right? You should have a revolver. You should have a semi-automatic for infuring your wife, carrying out in public. You should have a shotgun just because it's a great all around gun to have, whether it's burglars or vermin. You should have both action rifles. Some course case got to kill your meat. You should have a semi-automatic rifle to defend against here and there just to fuck off on Sundays and show your homeboys who's dick bigger. But what you what you should not do is give up your right to all weapons. Yeah. Or use them on people. That's what the thing about using them on people is that it's so rare, but so horrific and so so common for something that's so horrific and everybody's against it. But I don't I don't understand how you would ever by taking guns. I mean, you would have to take all the guns away to stop that from happening. How are you going to do it? How are you going to do that? Yeah, criminals are going to give up. Of course not. So there's no way the regular people should probably not do that. Yeah, that's that's where it gets squirrely. It's like, how are you going to get those guns from the criminals? You're not you're not going to. You're not going to joke. What we can do, though, and I would say as an owner, you get lazy. Sometimes you don't train enough. We should train more. And that doesn't mean, you know, go try to be the quickest draw. You practice it, you know. But what you want to do is is make sure you know what you're doing with your weapon. Make sure you know how to clean your weapon. Make sure you're not a story weapon. And I took my son and my nephew and I'm shooting about to start taking my 11 year old girl, Michael shooting, because I want them to know what they do if they see a gun. So we've already went through what do you do if you're somewhere you see a gun? How do you how do you get out of that situation? Get other kids out of that situation and let an adult know. All that comes with it, you know, and, you know, the strange thing to me is that my mother, when she was in high school, was actually taught how to shoot a rifle. Right. Because the NRA, which is now vilified and hated for for reasons some deserve, at least also I'm not. They used to have big programs in public schools to make sure that children knew firearm safety. So my mother's school and other schools benefited from that. I don't care if it was just that sheet of paper that told you gun safety before you went in a range. That was just a piece of propaganda they did. It was better for the overall public. So I tend to say as Americans, we've gotten away from stuff like trades in school. We've gotten away from different options, besides funneling our kids into college debt. And we've also gotten away from basic training such as balancing the checkbook, basic home economics, how do you make a lasagna at home by yourself and stuff like gun gun, you know, gun shooting and archery. I think that if those things return to public school, you get a safer, more confident student body. You get a reduction on things like bullying and bullshit. You get an increase on self-propelled interest of children. And you start to meet to grow scholars that excel. But do you do you really how is it going to stop bullying just by knowing that more kids know how to use guns? Guns don't stop bullying. No boxing class stops bullying. Pepsi said that no one wants to fight somebody who will fight back.