Is Global Wealth Possible Without Genocide and Mass Sterilization? - Joe Rogan and Killer Mike

The other thing they say is that as people get more affluent they have less children and the population decreases as the world's economy evens out and so that we reach like a point where we can maintain a sustainable population How does that still happen without mass genocide or mass civilization? That's a good question. I don't think they're saying that I think what they're saying is that as people become more educated and more affluent and more successful as More urbanization takes place people work more and have less children and when they have less children the population actually slightly decreases Fuck more people who fuck more have more children Night like that just I like that's one of those stats where I'm being like that might just they might just be talking about a particular Class of people they're still selling seven billion people. Yeah, they're still seven billion people live mostly for under 22,000 a year Yeah, and it usually every time development comes it exploits them Yes So like where does the balance out of influence coming like I know there's one country now that's doing a universal pay for people So are we gonna talk about going because when you go like is does that happen? Is that is that it we're going to universal pay well universal pay would be fine if it was universal effort If everybody did put out the same amount of effort. I would agree with everyone getting say no I'm not saying I'm for against that. I'm just saying how do you maintain? How does it how does it happen and everybody all of a sudden is affluent without mass genocide of sterilization? I think the idea is that as urban and listen, this is not my theory for sure But I've read it the idea is as the world becomes more urbanized and more educated and more wealthy as cities spread out What happens is less those people have kids and they have less kids. This is just a That doesn't work. I don't know if he works or not, but I know that this is an actual study Right see if you can find that people are vain as fuck some people are yeah Most people are but but the overall humans once people have serious careers like the man and the woman have a serious career They both of them are like really invested in their career They generally tend to have less kids and when this is the idea is that as this people I don't know it's a solution I don't think it's a good solution. I'm obsessed with work That's one of those things where the rest of the world's just not that sounds like I'm still talking about America My poor people are fucking man. Yes again. I just goes back to me like I hear those studies show But you got to say to yourself How do you handle the other four billion people? I think the argument is and this is not my argument Where do they go? They keep they keep expanding is that these cities in these urban areas? that as the Society sort of evens out globally whether it takes a thousand years or a hundred years as things start to even out people Will be more like Los Angeles and less less Less like poor places Calcutta. Yeah, but that's like but what I'm saying is like Poor place in Calcutta. You got a bunch of people walking. It's pumped in this noise It could be Los Angeles. You got smog. You got traffic got trashing that like there's there's those are two different extremes That that just seemed weird like I'm just saying You know sometimes I just feel like maybe we're at the point it ain't no turning around We might be yeah, just because we got seven billion people we might be but we also might not be and I think it's not a bad Time to be optimistic because as people look for better and better solutions. Yeah but but But like Jacque Fresco and the Venus Project talking about moneyless societies the radical radical change of what are political states and things in that nature Chomsky talks about You know essentially all all countries essentially now no matter Western or Eastern oligarchies and shit so Like what's the radical departure from this then that saves it all in your mind like what's the Joe Rogan? United Nations speech. I think people are more aware of the flaws of the system than they ever have been any generation previous Okay, I think would you look at kids from the 70s and the 80s? I don't think they were nearly as educated as to how truly fucked up this country is but also yet Truly amazing in terms of like the history of the world But has plenty to plenty to improve on but probably will I think people are getting better at life They're getting better at all all the things and government will come along with it I think we're gonna get better at things. We understand each other better. We communicate better is I'm Optimistic and I think with all these incredibly intelligent people that are looking at the problems in the world in terms of carbon in the Atmosphere or pollution in the ocean people are already starting to work on solutions. I got I'm really optimistic That it's there's at least the potential for someone to figure out some solutions to some of these problems overpopulation is always gonna be a weird one because You don't have the right to tell people how many kids they can have Yeah, cuz who like if you meet somebody he's got ten kids and the most fucking amazing family ever what what what are you gonna? Say it's bad. They have ten amazing kids. Everybody's great. You go over the house. It's all love. Yeah, what the fuck? Why is that bad you tell so so people are good, but only a certain amount? Yeah Yeah, that's it's where it gets weird, but but it's not a cut and dry issue. It's not a one or a zero It's like yeah, there are too many people and yeah, you probably shouldn't have ten kids, but you got a fucking awesome family So hey have a good night, man. Yeah, what the fuck to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know You know, just it just speaking as you know, just as a lot of the brown people This just scenario just never went well for us. I'm always Always yeah, I'm always check it out