Joe Rogan - There's More to the Louis CK Story

Recently, Joe, I gave Louie a shot at the club, you know, after his little... Yeah, I heard about that. And, you know, Louie called me up and said, Hey, do you mind if I do a spot? And I thought about it. He said, Yeah, sure, no problem. You know, I like Louie. He wasn't arrested or convicted of anything. And so I put him in. He did fantastic. He calls me. He says, What do you think? I said, Yeah. Put him on. And after that evening, the backlash was just unbelievable. Yeah. You know, I go, How long is enough? What does this guy have to do to try to get his career back? Right. But what is the backlash, though? Because the backlash is not your actual customers, right? No, it was they grabbed some female comics. A lot working. That aren't working for me. And that's said that Mike locked the doors and put a sexual predator on stage. And I was like, everyone there enjoyed Louie. And, you know, I'm just trying to help a friend get us like that. He came in and he walked over to me. I give him a big hug. We got no problem. I go, Now you. I said, I would have called you if that trick right. It give me a number. He didn't give me a number. He goes, That's not right. I go, I know that's what I told him. I said, So I bring him on stage. The gentleman, you know, this me to think everything. Here's a guy who who didn't touch any women. Matter of fact, he touched himself. That was the problem. They just happened to be in the room. And I said, You could have jerked off for me as long as you get on my shirt. My shirt is pretty expensive. I said, But these are people you gave a job to the people that turned on him. He gave jobs to and that's not right. Well, there's a lot to that story. I don't know. There's a lot to that story that would make him look very different in a lot of these people that are accusing him. And one day I think he's going to tell us. I had a conversation with him about it. It's not as cut and dry as everybody thinks. Everybody thinks he had power over these women and he pulled his dick out and started. No, there was a lot of there was a lot of sex talk. There was a lot of flirting. There was a lot going on. It wasn't that simple. And he's very he's very contrite about it. Yes, very, very. And he knows he fucked up. And by the way, he hadn't done anything like that in more than a decade. It was a long time. He just he's he's got a kinky thing. He was just in front of the said I can't I can't I can't with jerk off if the neighbors are home. I'm a wreck. He's got a weird face. So it won't be fun for anyone. But I'm a bad guy. No, he's a good guy. He's not a rapist. He's a sexual predator. Touch anybody. He caught the worst part of the wave. Yeah. You know, like if you're in the ocean and you could be in the ocean on a on a fucking surfboard and you just catch this little tiny wave and everything's fine, or you could fuck up and be in the right spot when that giant wave comes and slams you in the head and you have the same intention in the same person and other in other times in history, he would have been fine. He would probably be fine today because everything is kind of there's enough of the females that have come out that have been full of shit like Asia Argento and the girl who accused Chris Hardwick and then Chris Hardwick released all these text messages that show that she actually cheated on him and she brought him back and she's just trying to punish him for all this. But there's a few of those situations now where people realize, well, there's definitely sexual predators and there's definitely bad men. But there's also women who are taking advantage of this movement. And I think the world is sort of like calmed down a little. Like the Asia Argento thought one was a big one. You know, when she turned out that she was calling Harvey Weinstein a rapist while she was fucking a 17 year old, right? But she was she played his mom in a movie 10 years ago when he was seven. It's like, Jesus, how could you how could you have that kind of hypocrisy? But there's a lot of that in people that are screaming for attention at the front of the line of a lot of these things. A lot of them have like dark secrets themselves. Yeah. You know, and like these people that don't want a guy like Louis to have a road to redemption, they don't want him to work or even a guy like Aziz Ansari, which is even worse. He had a bad date with a girl, a bad date where she blew him like three different times and didn't want to keep going. Well, wait, wait, wait, he said bad date. That sounds pretty good to me. It's pretty good. No, it's better than no backlash. Yeah. But it's the whole thing was so crazy. It's like there's there's more than one side to every story like that. And to take someone's opinion or someone's perception of something as 100 percent the actual event that happened without any other evidence. It's kind of crazy. I mean, I don't think I just I just think people have to recognize that Louis in particular, he's been out of work. He was out of work for 10 months. He lost all of his shows. Well, people think he didn't suffer from that. Oh, no, it's a 30 million dollars show. People that think he didn't suffer are crazy. You're crazy. He should never be allowed to work again. Well, he's not a criminal. Right. He's not in jail. Right. So what are you saying? Like he should be able to stand up. Everyone deserves a second chance. And that was my point. I said, sure, Louie, come on. You know what? Yeah. I wanted to give him a fighting chance. And I guess he is back doing clubs now. And he's doing a lot of clubs. And he was very. That's it. It's always trying to do. He's just trying to get his life back. Yes. You know, he's building his act again, doing clubs and some fucking asshole releases his whole act on YouTube. So now all that material has to chuck away. So he was writing during the time he was gone, but not performing. And then he puts together an act that, you know, look, you know, as well as anybody, when you have new shit, it's got some goddamn holes in it. Right. There's no way it comes up. I never written a bit ever, maybe one or two in my whole career that was the finish bit when I first did it on stage. Maybe one or two ever. They're always clunky. And sometimes you have ideas. You're like, why the fuck did I even try that one? Like the Parkland shooter bit. He was doing that bit. Right. No, it's in the very unfortunate bit, right? Especially when people who aren't in the club hear it. And then but who knows what that bit would have been if someone didn't tape it. Yeah. If you gave him a year to work it out, right? He probably would have figured out a way to make it where it wasn't offensive and it didn't shit on those kids in the same way. My best stuff was was years ago before cell phones and before I didn't know. I just I just went out there. And now when I'm on stage, I'm constantly thinking, oh, don't go there. Don't do that. Don't cross that line because some terrible feeling for it's horrible. It's hard. The funny shit that you and I have laughed at hard was something that someone definitely shouldn't have said. Oh, absolutely. But they knew they shouldn't have said it. That's why they were saying it. They were saying it to make the audience laugh because they were like, I can't believe you fucking said that. Not like he means that. That's his actual thoughts. There's no maliciousness behind it. I have no. I want people to spend 30, 40 bucks to go out and have me pissed them off and ruin your night with your wife. No, I'm just trying to make you laugh.