Jackie Gleason's Secret UFO Obsession | Joe Rogan and Lenny Clarke

When I saw Gleason, Gleason was what I wanted to be. I just thought Jackie Gleason was just amazing. I said, I wanna be like that guy, because he was incredible. And it was people didn't realize he was a standup. I didn't know Gleason did standup. Oh yeah. Really? One night, two ton Tony Galenta was giving him shit. And the boxer. And Gleason heckled him. And Tony knocked him out. Oh Jesus. Oh yeah, oh yeah. He was incredible. Cause I met Aunt Connie. Jackie Gleason was obsessed with UFOs. Did you know that? No, but I kinda dig it too, man. There's a story, this guy told it to me, some guy was a rock band dude. He told me the story, and I don't know if it's true. But the story was that Gleason was friends with Nixon. And Nixon said, you wanna see some shit? Yeah. And Nixon took him to- Area 51? I don't think it was Area 51. I think it was Hangar 18, which is a Wright Patterson Air Force Base. And I think it was outside of Columbus, Ohio. And they supposedly had some fucking crash UFO there. And Gleason built a replica of it, or had a replica of it built in his fucking backyard in New York. Wow. They went to the Homestead Air Force Base outside of Miami, it says. Oh, okay, there you go. Beautiful. I got a bullshit version of it. Pull up the actual version. Where are you getting this from? I just Googled it. And it's a rumored story, so I don't know if it's true. Yeah, that's how I got it. I got it from a guy in a band. It might be bullshit, but he gave me some book on UFOs. He was telling me about this, but that Jackie Gleason apparently was obsessed with UFOs. Well, I believe there's gotta be something out there. Yeah, we're it? I mean, that's it? No, I don't believe we're it. I did a lot of USO shows, and I've been around the world. And it was every time I've done, I was off the coast of Turkey someplace, and the commander of the base took me out for dinner after. And I got him drunk. I got him pretty drunk. I was sober to them. I got him pretty drunk. And I said, hey, man, he goes, let me ask you about Area 51. He goes, he got stoned sober. This conversation never happened. And he left, and I had to take a cab to find my way back to a nuke base that no one knows about. So then we're, I mean, I'm at the Dunes. This is how long ago that was. And I'm with these guys who are in the Air Force. And they said, man, we really like your show. We're fanjest about it. I got him drunk. And I said, hey, man, what about Area 51? And they said, Mr. Clark, goodnight. And they walked away. So now, me and Mike are golfing with these Blue Angels. And he goes, you're gonna ask him? I go, no. The second year we golf with them again. I go, all right, fellas, tell me about Area 51. I go, well. He goes, I was flying a plane. And I had malfunction, and I had a land there. And they came out. And they pretty much blindfolded me. Took me into a building. And they fixed my jet within 35 minutes. And then put me back in my seat. We're never here. And I went, oh my God. So I don't know what's out there. Yeah, but that was, here's the thing. That was an area where they were testing all sorts of military equipment. They were testing different new, like that's where the B-2 or the stealth bomber. They were testing that there. And the spy plane. They were testing a lot of shit. So there was a lot of top secret stuff there. Didn't necessarily have to be aliens. I understand that. And I'm hoping that the risk. But he's still trying to find out. I'd love to go there, man. Oh man, but you can't even drive. If you drive up there, Joe, by the time you get your camera out, they're on. They tell you, get out of here. We'll lock you up. It's not good. So I don't even go there anymore. They've moved to a new area. They've actually, because it's so heavily scrutinized and because of Google Earth and all sorts of different ways you can see things, they've actually moved to another area. Well, I read everything I could find about that too. And I think I read the book, Area 51, which was a couple, two years ago. And basically at the end of the book, it was like, Hitler had these, his guys experimenting with the Jews and put their arms on different ways and had an aircraft that looked like a spaceship and it crashed and these people came up with crazy arms and they're aliens. And that was in the book, you know, so they kind of shut the shit out of it. I know Hitler did experiment with some sort of disc type air vehicle. Yeah, they did, but I don't know if they ever got it off the ground or what the deal was. But the most interesting story is the story of Robert Lazar, Bob Lazar, who was a guy who worked at Area 51 and he got fired because his wife was cheating on him. And they were recording all of his phone calls and taping all of his conversations and they found that his wife was cheating on him. They thought that he was gonna be emotionally unstable. And so they didn't tell him why, they just released him. So then he brings friends to watch these, what he said were alien crafts that they were experimenting with. And they were flying these things around that had some super advanced propulsion system that they were asking him to help back engineer. And he brought friends to do that and then they got arrested for doing that. And when he did that, then he started talking about it. So he's been discredited by a bunch of people, but I don't know who's telling the truth. He says that they wiped his college record, so that no one, but people said they went to school with them and he definitely did work for the government, but under what capacity, who knows? But his story is fascinating. And you know, I want it to be true. You hear it, you want it to be true. They used to fly the team of people that worked at Area 51 from Burbank. Every day, fly them in, they'd work and then fly them back. They didn't stay over. Well, there was that one airport outside of Vegas that was right outside where the Riviera was. You could actually look out and see the airport and they would fly the people from there and it's unmarked jets. Yeah, I want it to be true. Of course. Yeah, you want it to be true.