Joe Rogan | The Problems of Early MMA Training w/Forrest Griffin

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Luis J. Gomez

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Luis J. Gomez is a stand-up comic, writer, and producer. He's a host of multiple podcasts, including "Legion of Skanks" with Big Jay Oakerson and Dave Smith, and "Real Ass Podcast" with Zac Amico. www.luisofskanks.com

Dr. Duncan French

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Duncan French is the Vice President of Performance at the UFC's Performance Institute.

Forrest Griffin

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Forrest Griffin is the Vice President of Fighter Relations at the UFC's Performance Institute.

Clint Wattenberg

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Clint Wattenberg is the Director of Sports Nutrition at the UFC's Performance Institute.

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And you look back now with what you know now and all the athletes you've worked with at the UFC PI Do you think you would have done anything different? Oh my god, I can't even think about it I knew what I think about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's so so dumb Just bought eight rounds. Why would you spar eight rounds? There's no eight round fights for it You literally just getting slower for it's already slow I don't know it's Again being a pioneer like you were there wasn't really a whole lot of guys before you that were operating I had the other pioneers like the Randy's and the Chucks and that's what they were doing So I figured oh better be tough of it or do what they do. That's the craziest thing about I'm not gonna question them boxing it already figured out. You shouldn't beat the fuck out of each other every day They'd already kind of figured that well, and the other thing they figured out is We would work with people I can spar with Vanderlay Chuck Randy in boxing they don't spar with people their equals past a certain point in camp Yeah, well think about it You know a lot of but they they start like is Floyd Mayweather sparring with I don't know really good people his level No, no, definitely not. He's funny with good boxers and he's tooling them. Yes. Yes Yeah, and I think have you heard of them though. They're not famous and rich. So they're not the best right? They're not elite Whereas you think about like a gym like our gym like I'll just use Randy's cuz I don't want to talk bad about anybody You're fighting other champions every day, right? Dangerous as fuck. Yeah, maybe drill together sure learn from each other a role wrestle like control your training Especially guys that are in the same weight class as you that may someday fight you. That's awkward. Yeah. Yeah and There was no Guidebook. Yeah, you know guys like Keith Jardine and Rashad Evans figured it out They're like, all right. We already had to fight each other. We'll train together now. We won't have to do it again, right? That's good move if it works out The the level of guys now is it's so extraordinary to see like when you see the elite champions of today You you just have this insane level of fighter It's it's really as a person who's been involved in the sport as long as I have I Still never cease to be amazed at the level of talent of these guys coming up because some of these guys coming up They just could do everything and they could do everything at such a high level and you're realizing you're seeing the results of kids That started out learning MMA when they went five six years old Yeah, I mean, you know, I had a purse. I have a personal gym and I remember Rhonda Rousey They're like man, she's gonna change my bottom line. All the sudden I got a mat full of young women Thank you, Rhonda. Yeah chief for sure changed it Gina Carano changed a little bit before her, you know And people had this idea like oh you could be pretty and fuck people up like oh, that's a totally different kind of girl That's like a superhero like a real life superhero not sure plays in movies, right? Yeah