Joe Rogan | The Power of Offensive Words w/Luis J. Gomez

They just said that but I mean how many rape jokes like overall do you have? How many times do I say the rape or is it no like bits I mean really just that one Rape it's a long bit though. So it's a lot of jokes within it and i'm being raped in the joke most of the time Okay, so that's you know I think that's why it's a guy being raped. It helps But I you know, I don't want I don't want to ruin the bit either, but I think you have to um I respect the fact that people can be triggered, but it's a very strange thing to me because For me i'm always trying to find something really funny from this dark shit, right? Whether it's a personal experience or whatever it is And the way we're looking at it as comics is we're trying to find something really positive out of something really shitty And then you have like a movie which is just Maybe it's a fucked up scene. There's nothing. I mean look it's a positive piece of content tag it to one person talking Yeah, you know, it's a scene you're watching people act out of scene. You're right There's something very personal about one person talking. That's why This is I mean, it's not This is how some people would look at it. Like you should talk about things That you really care about while you're doing that because you only have a certain amount of time to do it You know and some sometimes Sometimes sometimes you you have a bit that's just not worth it, you know, like the way people react to it Just like yeah, even though you have a point it's like even working this bit out people getting so upset It's almost not worth it. No, it has to be a net positive the crowd has to be laughing So there's no you know, i'm okay I will defend somebody's right to tell a shitty joke, you know what i'm saying? But at the same time I understand if as a performer you have to gauge the audience and put your finger in the air and go Okay, which way is the wind blowing right now? The reality is you can't say things you used to say you can't say faggot on stage anymore in a crowd in new york or la You can't say that word the crowd will tighten up and shut down. You'll ruin the rest of whatever that joke is So it's it's obviously i've seen diaz recently Maybe they say faggot a lot He's awesome. He'll say whatever he wants, but he's got a point. I oh, I have a you know, I have a joke about you know my uh My dog and I used to say my faggot dog because he's looking at another male dog's asshole in the joke and uh And people would shut down at that word and it's really too much with you new york and la that's where the biggest faggots live Um, the rest of the country is cool. If you go anywhere else, they don't really give a shit about words like that But in new york and la it's become a particularly hard thing to You know, there's certain words and certain things that it's not even the content necessarily It's just those words that sort of set people's sensors off Well, there's always going to be a bunch of words like that What's really interesting is what does happen when you stop people from saying it? Because it's kind of counterintuitive because those words become these forbidden words Words they have so much more power if you don't and I don't just I just don't think you ever get to tell people That you can't say certain words. They used to be able to say all the time You know, I mean the idea behind those words is still the same Like if you say to someone you shouldn't say retarded anymore Even though that used to be like a term they would use for things being slower Like their growth being slower their growth was retarded But now if you even use it as a technical term like in the growth was retarded people will get upset at you Yeah, don't use that anymore now. That's a forbidden sound even if it doesn't mean what they think it means Talking about a person with down syndrome. They don't like hearing the r-word. Yeah, you you talked about in your special I thought was a great bit where you're like just these sounds from your face. Like what are we? Yeah, what are we doing? It's just you're making these different sounds with your mouth. So you're yeah, it's just sounds well It's a it's a byproduct of speech being a shitty way to really clearly convey intent And that's why when someone is good at speaking their mind We kind of get uh, we get a real sense of we we enjoy it Someone's good at speaking their mind, but if someone sucks at speaking their mind, you know, if they're if they're they're clunky at it Then it's not enjoyable. Yeah Yeah, I agree. Um and there's too many people that there's no barrier of entry and We're exposed to a lot of horseshit very quickly now Whereas like I think back in the day comedians had time to grow in a club, you know, you look at bob saggett right bob saggett was like a dirty fucking filthy comic who ended up getting on the cleanest television show ever right the dad, you know, Danny Tanner was You know, but then you if there was cell phones out back then he would have never gotten that gig Well, I think he stopped doing stand-up for a long time because of that too, right? Yeah, I think Stand-up while he was doing that show I might be wrong, but if he did do it maybe did like a an abridged. Yeah, you know um PG-13 version or something. Yeah, you know if I don't know man, it's Is it worth it? He knows it worth it censoring Tell me I think one day it seems like the more time goes on The more words they're sneaking into network television you hear like shit every now and then I think I think you're allowed to say shit An asshole on a network show now. Yeah, there was like a big episode once on something You can say shit in my asshole though. No, you can't say that. Yeah, that's just too you can call somebody a dick But you can't refer to your dick. That's the idea, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can call someone a pussy I think even too, which is weird You know that one's on the way out Yeah, that's okay You're feminizing a man and now that's offensive to women fuck you bitch now That's I'm calling my buddy a pussy and you get to take the offense on that. That's some crazy woman shit That's actually right there. That's how crazy women are. It's not how crazy women are. It's how crazy some women are it's like like Some men are fucking crazy, too You're just dealing with a giant number of people But if people find a little thing where they can pick on it and go after it like that Yeah, I don't know I've known there's nothing there's no it's very funny to me there's no words Feminizing that could possibly offend me that could ever right