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Ben O’Brien is a writer, editor, and member of the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Board of Directors.
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What I would say you're very handsome man like you seem healthy you healthy as fuck you have an organic garden your backyard No, no, no, I got some shit. I grow okay a little bit a little bit not a lot get a lot of from the store be honest with you Me too But I don't buy meat from the store Like I get I get to opt out of factory farm because I have a lot of wild game stuff my house I have definitely still bought meat from the store. I buy way less of it, and I eat meat almost every day Yeah, I buy way less, but I'll still go to a restaurant and order steak Yeah, I feel like this is something that people probably heard before but it's like the feeling of eating What gave me is just different. It's way different. It tastes different. It's better for you. It feels different It feels different for my body. Yeah, you know I mean I have I remember watching this thing about Ted Nugent Once I was like how's that guy got so much fucking energy. I mean it's like 65 years old Well, he's eating deer every day all day all day that I mean is it love or hate that guy There's a lot of power to his diet He's a good guy you get to know him he really is remember we like people are saying to me like well You hope you job Ted Nugent the podcast. I love him. How about that does he say things that I agree with 100% of the time? No, well if you've ever sat and talked to uncle Ted which you know shit I worked at the NRA for a while like I used to get assigned to the Ted Nugent Talk that he gave at the NRA annual meetings like I was a writer for the NRA and it like worked for the digital websites and I would get assigned to like the Ted Nugent seminar at the NRA annual meetings I would go and sit in the back with Ted and he would go brother brother, and he He's not fake. He ain't faking that that ain't like something. He just puts on for the cameras That's Ted, but he is smart man Like he is as you found out on that podcast which I thought was amazing like that dude Is sharp as they come you know what also he's reasonable and open to new information you don't think I turned him on Yes, I turned him on to marijuana. Yeah, you did okay. This is first of all He's using CBD on a regular basis in fact if you go to Ted Nugent official good as fucking his Instagram He was actually he was advertising jumbo CBD that I hooked him up with yeah He was having some serious knee pains He's had a you know he was told telling me about his days of rock and roll jumping off of amplifiers And he destroyed his meniscus his knees are shot I ran into him like three years ago at a concert and went backstage, and we were chatting and he had Huge ice packs on each one of his knees. Yeah, just had surgery in one I don't know what the surgery was for but it like he clearly He was clearly in pain and like he just looked you know run down, but then we went out in the crowd He came on stage, and you look like a 25 year old rock guy. Yeah, he Fucking he's a hard-working man. Yeah, I mean when when the time comes the lights are on That guy goes after it and people like so you support with the racist things you said or there's like it No, unfortunate You know whatever the fuck he said that you didn't like that Either he shouldn't have said or maybe you didn't understand what he meant or maybe it's out of context Anything that hurts anybody's feeling unfortunate, and I don't support it, but guess what we're all we all have Unfortunate things about us. That's just a fact of being a fucking human being and one of the parts one of the things that we're doing when we're screaming out and calling out someone and we want someone Deplatformed and dismissed and never never to be heard from again. We're worried Part of us are worried that that's gonna happen to us we're worried that we would ever exhibit that sort of Reprehensible behavior or language and we we want to we want to put a stop to it in ourselves in other people We want to eliminate it from our society and culture and want to do it Harshly and ruthlessly and we're terrified that it's gonna be done to us Yeah, you know and there's a lot of people that make some fucking really terrible mistakes And I think there's got to be some sort of path to redemption I really I really believe that always cuz I meet you know in hunting I certainly don't meet the caliber of folks that you have in this room But like I meet these people in hunting then and I run around in In the in these circles and people are saying this person thinks this and did you see that Instagram post? I don't believe in that and like knocking people down. Yeah, and I just think I know that person that's a good person, you know And maybe he's not he or she is not depicting this in the way that you like it in this instance But that's a good well-meaning person people are more than capable of mistakes and we should be more than capable of allowing them redemption and