Joe Rogan STUNS Guest with Gay Cure Experiment Story

Conversion therapy is the weirdest shit of all time. There was an article that I read about, they were manipulating pleasure. It turned out, I started reading it from a study on rats. They did this thing with rats where they provided, they figured out a way to give rats orgasms. They figured out a way to like jazz up the pleasure center of the brains. I love that you're reading this. And they would do anything to do it. They would shock, they would run up past an area that shocked them. Like they would do anything to get to this area where they could have these orgasms and they would have them up to 2,000 times a day. They would just nut just all day long. And in reading... Male and female rats or just male? Yeah, just rats. Just rats. Just rats. Just rats trying to come. And so when I was... I love that we're in hour three and we're talking about rat orgasms. This is... This study is amazing. Parents are not listening to this. Sorry folks. No, it's okay. Mr. and Mrs. Weiss, time to turn away. They did it with a gay man while they were doing this. This is in the 1970s. There's a couple different studies that they did, but one of them they did with this gay guy where they tried to stimulate certain parts of his brain while they were showing him heterosexual porn. And they were trying to convert him into being heterosexual. Okay. Apparently they had some meager amount of success with this where he engaged in sexual relationships with women and apparently even enjoyed it. And they did something to literally stimulate a part of his brain that would excite arousal and tried to connect that with heterosexual porn and made him orgasm, made him masturbate to orgasm while they were doing this and showing him straight porn. The idea was they were going to reprogram his mind. How'd that work out? It didn't, but it did. It did in terms of short term, but it didn't. It must've been just massively confused. Because obviously sexuality is not just about what makes you have an orgasm. No, it's not. Physically. It's also incredibly complex. And one of the things that happens is you can have gay experiences when you're young. If someone does something to you and imprints upon you arousal at a young age with gay experiences, sometimes even heterosexual men will get aroused by certain gay images and gay things because of their past. Because of that, like Chris... But isn't it also that we're all on a spectrum? Sure. Sexuality and like... That's speculative. Yes, I think so for sure. We all certainly are. But it's also speculative of how much of that spectrum is influenced by your environment versus your genes. And this is very taboo for some people to discuss, even though it's really fascinating. Human sexuality is incredibly fascinating. And there's some major taboo areas of exploration. And when you start looking at what makes a person gay or straight, whether it's nature or nurture, whether it's a combination of those things, whether someone's just radically gay from the womb or whether someone's radically straight from the womb, these studies where they were trying to turn someone with science, they were trying to turn someone straight. You couldn't do it today. You would never be able to do it today in America. I have to look this up. Yeah, I believe it was 71. They did it. Okay, I'll look it up. Yeah, I'll send it to you. Okay. It's crazy. It's crazy. Widely criticized, but heavily studied. The woman, they did it to a woman too. They stuck these, this woman had a problem with painkillers. And so they figured out a way to wire her brain. Is this like electric shock therapy or like lobotomy? They used fucking dental drills. They put holes in their brain. Oh my God. They fucking could do whatever they wanted in the 70s. Now the time that we get high, when does this like... Yeah, now's the time we break out the Elon Musk weed.