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Ari Shaffir is a stand-up comic, writer, and podcaster. Ari is the host of the "You Be Trippin'" podcast. Watch his latest comedy special, "Ari Shaffir: America's Sweetheart," on Netflix. www.arishaffir.com
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Dude, have you watched Wild Wild Country? It's the best. Holy shit. Okay, when you're one or two episodes into that. I'm four episodes into now. Okay, perfect, perfect, perfect. So you can get this. How much of you thinks, oh Duncan could start one of these. A thousand million percent. Right, I'm going through your head. A thousand. It's all peace and happiness and fucking wearing the same shit. It's a great. Dude, I was talking. I'd be like, these people seem cool. I was talking to my friend Todd and he was like, dude, I wanted to live like that. I'm going to join up. Two episodes in, you're like, yeah, man, what the fuck? This place is awesome. I'm in, I'm in. I'll wear red. It was like the first episodes of Sons of Anarchy. The opposite way. It looks great. I am in. They seem like they're happy. They are happy. They're having a good old time. The Duplas brothers made that. Those guys are bad ass. Yeah. Yeah. That's an amazing documentary. It's fucking great. The story is so insane while I'm watching. I'm like, how the fuck did I not know about this? How did I not know about it? It was so good that I thought it was a work for a while. I was like, I think they might be faking this. Oh God. So I will see Tom Brokaw talking about it. You're like, all right, I guess I guess it's happened. I got a friend of mine and his girlfriend's parents were in that group. Really? Yeah. And they still, they still follow that guy's teachings. They still believe in him. The Mogwai? Osho. Is that his name? How did he say his name? No, it wasn't Mogwai. That's his grandma's. There's a picture that I had of him that I put up on my Instagram page of him holding this white guy's head and this guy's like coming in his pants. Oh my God. It's one of the freakiest pictures. Oh my God. Pull this up, Jamie. I love it. He's just like, you can have money. You can have nice things. Yeah. He had 22 fucking Rolls Royce. 22 Rolls Royce. Look at this. Oh, look at the guy. The guy's like, oh, I'm white. I'm touching you. I'm so white. He's touching both of them at the same time. Left hand on the dude, right hand on the girl. He's like transmitting through them. Giving them orgasms. Look at him. He's like, oh, oh, oh, oh my God. They believed in it, man. We're all fucking good. Go ahead and piss the crazy. Have you seen any of this, Jamie? I think I turned it on and fell asleep and how dare you? You believe that shit, dude, it's fucking amazing, man. I'm, I'm on episode four now and I don't want to give anything away, uh, in terms of like how it goes down, but it literally keeps ramping up and getting more and more fucking insane. I, I'm like what Ari said. I can't believe I didn't hear about this. How do we know about Jonestown? Everybody knows Don't Drink the Kool-Aid. Where was this? This is in Oregon, outside of Antelope, Oregon. Dude, I mean, I don't want to, I can't give too much away, but these people bought a town. They bought the whole town. They got a police force. Do they have their own police force? What are the odds that something like that is going on now? It's super low. It's super low because what this is is they, what the government had stepped in and realized that there's some shenanigans going on and they were essentially, there was no separation of church and state because the church was the state, right? They had a government and police force that was run by the church. They called it the peace force and the whole cult basically ran the town except for a few diehards who didn't want to give their houses up. So there was some folks who had been living in Antelope their whole life. They didn't give their houses up and they're telling the story. They did not care for it. It's fucking amazing, man. I'm so jealous of you of having not seen the whole thing yet. What about that sex cult? There's another one, right? Is it a different one? There's one with the actress that got in trouble. So that's, is that a similar type cult thing? What is the deal with that actress? I don't know. Do you know what I mean? Did she really recruit people knowing it was a sex cult? I don't know if that's the same thing. It's probably not as many people. I don't know much about this sex cult thing with that actress lady other than- That seems like a mucka in the whole story. She was branding. They were branding people. She was a part of it. She was recruiting people, indicating- Allegedly. This is what they're charging her with, right? I feel like there's more to this story than I can tell. I don't know, man, but it's weird that people are so susceptible to cults and that we protect people from cults but don't protect people from religions. It's the same shit. The only difference is this one guy is banging all these people and we've got to stop that. Boils under that a lot. But then there was sex crimes. We don't care for the behavior. There was sex crimes. There was like teen trafficking and there was illegal things. That were done in this particular one from what I've read. I don't know too much about it. But then when you go to that Osho guy and all those folks- That all seem legal. It seemed, except for church and state. See, the thing is the church started running the police force. Oh, right. Remember? And they had these guys walking around with fucking semi-automatic rifles and high-powered machine guns and shit. It was very different. It was like, okay, you've got a military force that's guarding this religious leader. Yeah, we broke down to that. Yeah. And they were like, okay, these police people at the compound in the hallways with machine guns, these guys are playing assassin. And they are the police force. They're not private. Exactly. What's it called? Group. I don't want to give any more away. Just watch it. Everybody watch it. And by the way, everything I've said is not going to take anything away from it. Watch it with your girlfriend or your boyfriend or your wife or whatever. Watch with your neighbor. Watch with somebody together. Let's just find somebody. Be like, let's watch it. One episode every two days. Let's talk about it. Oh, it's so fun. I think an independent version of that is in little blips what goes on with Burning Man. Like this independent little blip of escape of norms of regular society. And these people get there, they wear fucking gas masks and fuck each other and go crazy and do cartwheels and the dirt. And they hang out together for days on end. Having a great time. And they realize that people, at least in small bursts, can establish these communities, set up all this temporary art, have a great time. And everybody's really like-minded in a lot of ways, hanging out in this one place. Well, if people want that, the only difference between that and a full-time community is that you would have to figure out a way to get everybody to get along forever. It could just be a few days. You'd have to raise kids together, get your food together. Get the food, have all the jobs you have. Keyboards are similar to that. But if you tried to do that today, they would stop you. Or at least it would become a real issue. Say if you decided, you and Duncan got together, and you two decided by 700 acres in Oregon, and you found some place you could all afford, you did a Kickstarter, and you guys set up a community out there. You grew your own food, you had your own well. Nobody could be married, and you could fuck anybody you want. This is how we live in. That's how we live in. And then you just, you just, and you like real loosely based rules, hey, when you eat something, clean up your mess. Giant mess halls filled with people. People have these houses all over this fucking ranch, and you basically established a village. You just can't go too far. Yeah, but then how would you do it? Go too far when you start getting money from them? Then they start worrying. How would you deal with it when someone breaks the real law? Like there's a rape or a murder, you'd have to be like, now we need to call in real cops. The only way to keep it on the- It's so fun, so do that. Yeah, you'd have to keep it legit. You'd have to still be under the jurisdiction. You'd have to make friends with the local sheriffs. That's what you'd have to do. Yeah, just like we don't mean any harm, but when we need you, when something happens, we'll call you, but otherwise we're not going to need you much. Yeah, we're just up here banging each other. Hala. Yeah. Just banging each other like crazy. It's getting fucking wild up here, son. That's what we do. It's legal, right? It's still legal to fucking America if I pay taxes. Yeah, so my best buddy's wife can suck my ball while I'm ass-fucking him? Yeah, that's what they're like. They're into that. She likes to suck ball right next to the booty hole. I think you'd run into problems. People would decide that you shouldn't be living like that. They don't like it. People do that with everything. It's with everything. You're not living the way I live, so I'm not going to let anyone be into your shit. Yeah, but it's always like one dude, right? That's running things and fucking everybody. Oh, and one of those, yeah. Like these compounds and sex faults. There's always like a main guy who fucks everybody, fucks everybody's wife. He's like, fuck everybody you want, but you probably want to fuck me because I'm the main dude. The only way to do it, honestly, is to do it Burning Man style. This is my point, is that Burning Man style would be no leader. No leader. Yeah, no leader. So like-minded people, no leader. And you'd have to fit. The problem is charismatic people could co-op that. You'd have these meetings, one person takes over. Like, what do we need here as some organization? Next thing you know, he's the king. Yeah. You know, that's how people do. We're monkeys. Yeah. If we could avoid that though. You crave leadership. Yeah, yeah. We'd have to somehow or another find a way to not manipulate the way people perceive loss. The kibbutz is a pretty close. It's not those sex cults, but they are like, everyone has a job. We're all working for, nobody makes money here, everybody makes 20 bucks a week, whatever it is, you know, room and board is paid for. And that makes people feel really good. Yeah. You're all doing an equal part. One guy could be running the accounting for the thing. One guy could be, you know, taking eggs. You know, one person takes care of the nursery of the kids. But like, everyone joins in.