Joe Rogan on Asia Argento Controversy

Just twisted this around. You said that you was correct and apologize to all those yoga teachers out there fucking their students. No, that's a violation If you're a guru and anything that's a teacher and below you're using that you're manipulating that person Okay, but wasn't that like a big part of like Undergraduate students and professors back in the day. They can't do that anymore. Yeah, that was a big thing No in my high school like the basketball teacher ended up marrying like his best Girl basketball play hey and you know happy ending. Yeah worked out. Oh, well, how old was she in him? He was probably 30 something and she was 17. Whoa. When did they get my in basketball? I don't know after school During school now apparently it was during and then they ended up was it legal then no No, no, no, no, no in many states. It probably was legal 17 in Jersey. Yes, I guarantee you it was what year? 1985 86 guarantee it was you could 17 was legal. I bet it was legal really I bet it's about 16 was legal right? Yeah, and It's not to say that there can't be a happy ending when somebody is the teacher or the Your side, I mean, it's definitely a violation, but it is a manipulation. What's the age of consent in 1980? No, New Jersey age 16 years old 16. Yeah Wow I could have hit on Miss Crew Okay, but hold on a second consent for sexual conduct 16 this applies to both heterosexual and homosexual conduct as a general matter This means that a person who is 16 years old can generally consent to have sex with any adult and this is in 2018 that's today. That's today. So here's the thing how crazy thing like, you know this Asia Argento thing. Hmm Yes, the 17 year old kid, right when he had sex with her was in, California So he's saying it's sexual assault Because she had sex with him and then she got Tony Bourdain to pay this kid off 300 plus thousand dollars to shut his mouth and then it came out that she was a hypocrite because She seduced this kid and fucked him and she had played his mom in a movie ten years prior when he was only seven Which is really crazy his pictures of her and the kid when the kid was up like a little kid Oh geez, she stayed close to him and called him like her son and he would call her mom and stuff like that and then they got together and She lied about it and said she didn't fuck him and then pictures came out of her in bed with them and then her friends released text messages She's a fucking monster was it was it way was he of legal age when they had sex? This is my point He was 17 at the time. So we've been totally legal if this happened in, New Jersey, but it happened in, California But this is all going on while she was making a big deal of Harvey Weinstein having sex with her when she was 22 Like Jesus fucking Christ. I was hit for Chris. You know, the whole thing's crazy. But my point is first of all Let's be honest about that situation. I mean 17s He's gonna be okay. I'm just saying even if it's illegal. Yeah, it's just not The same for boys. It is not the same. Should she have done it? Yeah, probably not. Yeah Yeah, definitely probably not should she be locked up in a cage for 10 years from doing that? No, she's a freak Alright, that lady is a freak. Yeah. Yeah, she was he was 17 But she's more guilty of being a hypocrite than anything Did she stay in touch with him all those years when she was playing the mom? Yes The real creepy pictures her in the movie with him when he was like a little kid. Oh But it's not as creepy as Woody Allen when he had his daughter Sitting on his lap and then ten years later that same daughter is holding his hand as his girlfriend in a brain in the front row Of a basketball game. That's kind of weird That's a little way creepier that's way in the you know, that is so weird I don't know if there's even a reason to make that comparison But the my point is that kid would have no case at all if this was in New Jersey, right? Which I don't think he should have a case does he is he prosecuting like or he he Apparently threatened to go public with it and he wanted money and they gave him money Anthony Bourdain did yeah and gave him a lot $380,000 oh my god, and even after he got paid he comes out. That is the most expensive dick that lady will ever get Then he comes out comes it came out anyway, I don't know why it came out. I don't know who released it Harvey Weinstein Somebody somebody released it. I don't know what happened. But what they're basically showing is that this whole thing You know of her attacking being attacked by Harvey Weinstein. It's complicated, right? Maybe he did exact what she said he did it's possible, but she clearly is deceptive She definitely lied about this kid Yeah, the problem is the age of consent being 17 If it was 18 or if it was you know if he was 18 rather or if it was like in New Jersey where it's 16 There's no case and she just fucked a young kid and I'm just gonna be honest The only thing that's creepy is that they had this sort of mom son Yeah going on when they talked about each other as mom. Yeah, that's weird if she was just a hot 35 year old who had sex with a Handsome 17 year old boy, right? 17 that's a man. It's not the same thing. It's not the same thing It was a 35 year old man or 17 year old girl. She directed the movie too. Does that change? Yes She directed the movie movie the new one Movie ten years ago when he was 17 year old or a seven year old rather. Mmm. Yeah, I don't know man You know my my she was 37 when she didn't was seven 17 37 when he was 17. Yeah, she didn't make a move when she when he was seven though. No, she was waited till he was 17 She's a good person Yeah She's enough. She was she got close to the wire. She's like I can't hold on anymore Enough already. It's will you move to New Jersey? I won't Here's the issue. I don't I I just don't think it's the same thing now I think the only thing she's really guilty of here is hypocrisy and deception I don't think she's guilty of a sex crime even though she technically is in my mind I mean, maybe I'm am I a sexist. I don't know if I am I'm Sexist against men. Well, I just think I think the guy's gonna be okay I just don't I don't buy that he was so damaged But I'm at that age he was that damage from her he would have been dead He would have been damaged from a girl who was his age to who fucked him and then didn't call him right? That's the thing. That's just emotions. That's not a crime. You know, you've here you hear this argument Well a boy can be affected for sure everyone can be affected And when you're forced with your like, you know in some of these instances where the teacher sleeps with the kid and right And it's a boy and he's 14 and people are like, oh, come on. He would love it He's a boy now 14. You're still don't know who you are. You're still mixed up. And again, we're back to our teacher student dynamic Yes, it's a different situation. She's so manipulating you right? So the question is is this dynamic equal to the teacher student because she was the director and she played his mother and they she Clearly had some sort of a maternal love Like sort of relationship with him early on and then it became sexual later, but then she says he jumped her She says the horny kid jumped me. That's what she said her text to her friend when she's being honest. Oh, really? Yeah, so maybe he did maybe he was in love and pining for her the whole time Yeah That's one of the reasons why he came out and wanted money in the first place She's trying to get back at her because she didn't want having to do with him anymore and maybe they had a couple of drinks together and she You know, she just didn't know what to do when he started making moves on her and so she fucked him cuz she's crazy That's possible to yeah. I mean, what is it? Is it a crime? I mean what you're telling you're talking about a crime where if it was 200 days later, it's not a crime Like really is he gonna learn a lot in 200 days? The law's the law Joe the laws the law Mr. Dragnet over there You got a pay you got a you know The laws are on the books for a reason Joe and then law says 17 doesn't say 16 and a half It's just 17 for a reason Johnny lawyer over here Well, it really that's what it comes down to it's like we because it's so gray and because there's so many things that can happen You really have to be come down to what was there a lot you should have to pull your pants down How much pubes you got let me see what you got. How big's your dick? You're full grown the fuck out here pussy That's not fair. I remember a lady banged you I remember this I had a friend of mine in who grew hair when he was like 12. He was the hairiest little Italian kid He had a mustache full beard at 13. I'm sure his pubes were gigantic good Legal he's our gentle go fuck that guy He couldn't help it. He would get a haircut and we'd grow back by the time he got in the car He was just Italian. Yeah, um, it's very complicated You know the thing about her too is you know, she had a consensual sexual relationship with Harvey Weinstein after the alleged Incident where he ate her pussy and she didn't want him to Well, that's like the Cosby thing they keep coming back. There was a couple that came back And and it's like you don't wait a minute. Were they aware that he drugged them the first time? I Don't know the details. It sounded like it. It's not like they knew something was weird, but then they came back anyway But again exonerate someone from a rape just because after the rape you're friendly with them Right because you know, that's a big mental impact. You don't know what's going on with these not just that It's some people they want to mitigate the effects of being raped by turning into something different So they like maybe would establish a consensual relationship with the person after they raped them to try and take their power back a little You well not just try to relieve themselves of the the feeling of being a victim like me almost make it consensual Yeah, it's like a weird psychological dynamic that you and I will never understand as men Yeah, we'll never understand it now because it's not the same. It's just not the snow. It's not so if she went back, you know With Harvey, right? Like if a woman comes over your house, right? Okay, if you're a single guy Am I in a little cabin? Yeah a little tiny You're in big bear. I'm in there you wearing flannels cut wood Okay, and a girl comes over and she sucks your dick against your will don't stop I can't believe you're doing this goddamn it and and then once it's over you like well, I don't want to feel it I got raped. I'm just gonna establish a relationship with this lady All right, people be like shut the fuck up Tom Papa get out of here. What was that Michael? Difference is because you're a guy right you're not worried about your physical safety. This is the real issue physical safety I can't get pregnant right I used to work out at this gay gym I used to work out at a gold's gym on coal I say gay gym because it was like a lot of gay guys Right really obvious over tan, you know gay guys like super thin tank tops Muscles and fucking combat boots and real aggressive Yeah leather like fucking paper boy hats on while they're working out I had a friend fucking day, but my point is while I was in there working out Yeah These guys would hit on you right and you'd feel like guys were looking at you and hitting on you and it made you Uncomfortable right welcome to being a woman. Hey not even really because I could fuck those guys up, right So I wasn't worried like if a guy tries to go to the parking lot. I'd be like hey, dude We're good. This is gonna get violent. Yeah, stop trying to fuck me Right, you know like I can actually fuck you up Whereas if I'm a girl I have to worry that I'm fumbling for my keys and this guy's behind me in the parking lot Yeah, they want to push me into the car and take my pants off This is a real concern for women that men don't have so our ideas of what it would be like to be in a Non-consensual relationship with a woman where she sucks your dick against your will just not comparable. That's a great point I mean, that's when that Michael Douglas movie came out and it was the same thing. It was the reverse Shoot I forget which movie it was he she goes down on him and he's like no stop it It's a work relationship and he's like stop don't know attraction. No, it wasn't fatal attraction It wasn't behind the candelabra. It was It was another movie and it would became like a thing. It became like a joke because as a Disclosure because as and who was the star Demi Moore Demi Moore? That's hilarious Yeah, so she goes down on them and everyone they were trying to make the case that it could happen to a man, too And the culture was like no There it is, yeah, she's a predator. Yeah, she's a predator believe this Shut the fuck and he's like get off wrote that a fantastic sex thriller masterfully done That's fake news. I wrote that well good for them putting it out there and giving it a try I like how they always have that like fucking W CN TV some shit. You've never heard of WWR TV What is that like they will now get it for any quote? So just take some wonky quote from some Boise news station All right, some guys drunk when he writes that he's barely paid attention. But now it's just someone with a blog Yeah, it's like Don's movie hut He loved it