Joe Rogan on Andrew Yang's Vegetarian Stance

Yeah, yeah, and I'm a liberal cuck douche twat loser, but I feel like there's some, you gotta have some common sense here. You gotta stay, like, out of the, out of that weird fog that everybody gets in and then the brainwashing happens and they all start blowing each other and it's chaos. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta stay out of the weeds. Yeah. And even that Andrew Yang guy, like, talking about getting people to stop eating meat, like, hey, no. Yeah, come on. Stop, you can't. That's what I liked about him. He was analytical. He was just, let's fix this problem that's broken. He probably believes that that's key to making the world a better place. Alright. I think there's a lot of people that would argue against that and I think if he sat down with those people and had a debate, I don't think he'd do well. You know, I think if someone who could explain the nutrition required, like, really explain, based on, like, a Chris Kresser guy, based on actual science, someone like Rhonda Patrick, no, you're not gonna stop people from eating beef. Just stop. That's not smart. It's not wise. You're gonna put all these ranchers out of business. It's an elitist thing to say. You don't understand how many jobs are on the lawn. You don't understand how many people love steak and wouldn't have a problem. If you don't kill the cow, tell me what happens. They live forever. What happens? They become fairies? What happens? Or do they let them free? And they get taken out by bears and mountain lions in your backyard. So we rise of predators and we just let them breed everywhere. And then every time you're trying to drive to the store, a bull comes and smashes into the side of your fucking car because it's got a heart on. Right. Because that would happen. What, are you gonna let them roam free? Yeah, interesting. What are you gonna do? Are you gonna cull them? Are you gonna give them birth control? What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do at this point? Right. How about we just eat them responsibly and ethically? Yeah. How about that? How about we feed them grass? It's real healthy food and if you believe a life is life, just one life is worth a life. Well, you're responsible for way more death because you're responsible for birds and bugs and ground nesting birds and fucking rodents and anything that goes on. They get chopped bunnies, they get chopped up in those combines. Yeah. Farmlands that displace wild animals left and right. They put fucking pesticides into the ground. There's a lot of fucking chemicals that get released into the ground. Even what you would call organic agriculture. Like you're still using machines. There's a lot of bad shit that happens to the world. It's also funny how like these people love animals so much and yet if you watch like an animal planet, animals are the most vicious, cruel, evil survivalist. They're just, get out of my way. I want to save my family or eat dinner. But they're right about factory farming. They're right about the repulsive feeling that you get when you look at animals that are stuffed into these pens and these inhumane conditions. They're right about that. They're not right about farms though. They're not right about sustainable farms like Joel Salatin. He's the guy that has this place called Poly Face Farms where they talked about large scale natural agriculture and raising animals in the environment they're supposed to be in. Like pigs, they move around a fence. So they create a fence for these pigs and then they move the fence to another location after certain times. They push the pigs into this new area and the pigs are always free. So they're always free roaming and eating acorns and stuff that pigs naturally eat. I think they supplement them with other food as well and healthy food but they don't behave like a scared animal that's trapped in a pen just freaking out. They live like an animal lives. Yeah. You know the argument and it's a real argument like why should you be able to kill? Why should you be able to eat something that's an animal? It's a good argument. It's a real argument. And if you really are an ethical person and you look at that argument and that's your point, like we shouldn't be able to kill. I understand you don't want anything to die and you don't want anything to suffer. The way I look at it is the natural world is this fucking shark tank. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And all you're doing if you're eating meat, if you're eating it in an ethical way, you're moving most of that from the animal's life. And then at the end of the animal's life, you're putting a bolt through its brain. You might think that that's a horrible, terrible thing to do that that cow gets shut off in a second. But if that cow was living in the real world, it would get ripped apart by wolves. That's what a cow used to be. You see an animal that had to run for its life and the wolves would sneak up on them and they would tear their legs apart and start eating them asshole first. I've seen the ducks. That's what every animal does. It's crazy. All die like that. All herbivores that live in a farm environment, if they're free range, if they're grass fed cows that are just wandering around, all of them live a far superior life to any of their wild counterparts. They'll live longer. They'll be healthier. And if it's someone like a Joel Salatin or someone who does like ethical farming where they have large scale, like big giant patches of land where these animals are allowed to roam free and eat grass. The only real problem they have is when grizzlies move in. That's when they have a problem when grizzlies and wolves find out about their cattle. So when the natural enemies of these animals encounter them in these encaged areas, then they have to keep them out. They have to protect these animals that they're going to kill from the animals that want to kill them. The whole thing is crazy. It's crazy, yeah. But it's crazy on both sides. It's all entitlement, really. It's like a narcissism. Like, we need to stop this and this is it. But you're like, no, the world has a plan already. It's going to happen. There's a food chain and a pecking order and they're going to get eaten. But I don't think we should support factory farming. And I think they're right about that. And I think when you see factory farming, you see the horrific conditions that some of these animals have to live in. And then, you know, they just, I mean, some of the pig farms, man, they flew a drone over one of them and it had a lake. I mean, like a lake filled with pig shit and piss. And it was the most disgusting looking fucking lake. And these animals were all stuffed into this area and they would shit into this pipe. And the pipe would lead into these enormous lakes of pig shit and piss. And you're like, well, these are like these meat factories, these meat slash torture factories. That's not how pigs supposed to live. A pig's supposed to live like the Joel Salatin pigs live. They're wandering around. I thought pigs liked shit. Didn't they have pig and shit? Didn't that the thing? Slop. They like to roll around. Some pigs, I think, like to roll around in the shit. They definitely roll around in shit, but they don't want to just live stuffed on top of it. They're shitting into a metal grate. Ewwww. You ever see that video, Jamie? Right, of course. Yeah. We get pulled off of YouTube. It's kind of like... It's a pretty terrifying video. It's like rehab. You ever look at a rehab? They're always so nice. You know, these people are always like, oh, this person was a heroin addict. We gotta save them. Like, man, man, man, I should get out on heroin and go to rehab. They're like in Malibu and shit. Yeah, they overlook the ocean. Yeah, they're amazing. These little birds. It looks pretty good. Right. But hey, I've never done heroin because I know I'll get hooked. Yeah, it seems like one to avoid. Yeah, yeah.