Joe Rogan - Male Feminists Are Weasels

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Dr. Debra Soh

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Dr. Debra Soh is a sex neuroscientist, journalist, and author of “The End of Gender: Debunking the Myths about Sex and Identity in Our Society.” www.DrDebraSoh.com

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And then make well some of them like that though like if they're masochistic they like the idea of their Woman being having sex with another guy. Well you didn't want to use the word cuck. I Like how you went with masochistic Well, I mean that I guess that's a technical term too. We can call them cucks Cuck is a compromised word though. Yeah, isn't it? Yeah, there's a whole other stuff that comes with that Yeah, it gets girly I thought it always meant that it always meant like cuck-hold like you want to watch men have sex with your wife Yeah, but then it got to where what is it? What is what is what is like? Basically like a beta beta male beta male, but there's so many different versions of it now. It's it's become Really freely tossed around like a beach ball at a concert. He's throwing cuck around these days Yeah, I mean, I think that's fine if that's what you're into no judgment there Yeah, it's into being cuck-olded. Yeah, if that's what you're into good luck with that just Okay, cuck a man who's desperate for acceptance approval and affection from women oh Now it's different This desperation has led to the compromise of his beliefs and values The desecration of his dignity and self-worth and his inability to stand up for himself this fortune right this And what he deserves as a human being example loyalty fidelity and honesty in a romantic relationship, okay? Okay, look at look at the example they gave hold on a second I know John's always wanted a girlfriend, but since him and Mary started dating he's become a cuck She spends all of his money and flirts openly with openly with other men I can tell it bothers him, but he's so afraid of losing her that he doesn't say anything That's a cuck Sounds like a male feminist also Can't believe you went there. I know Yeah, that male feminist thing. I've I've known a few that were real creeps that were fake creeps You know they're like on the side they what they're doing was they're They're posturing as an Alternative to these men who don't want monogamous relationships Or would break the woman's heart or not willing to compromise and bend the will of the woman Mm-hmm and they put these women on a platform and worship these women and I am the alternative And I'm the powerful alternative and these men are assholes And then they try to shit on those men and take them But all it does is make those men appear even more attractive to these women secretly these men these feminist men and these women have These weird relationships where it doesn't work, and they're never sexual or if they are sexual the women aren't really sexually attracted to them So they withhold sex It gets super weird yeah, obviously. I just generalized a lot about a giant group of people's relationships But what I've seen it's just It's they they don't run fast. They can't pick things up. They're not attractive so they tried their little weasels They're trying to find another way in yeah, yeah, I mean I think Men who not all men who call themselves Feminists are male feminists so in that I think men who? Ascribed to women being equal that's a good thing yeah And I think a lot of guys will say yeah I'm feminist because they think that's the right thing to do that's the socially acceptable thing right that's the way we should be but then the ones who run around and say You know really really push it and make that their identity and really sell themselves as male feminists Those are the guys I have an issue with because like you said they're sneaky. Yeah, they know what they're doing Yeah, they're not being honest well you could almost always tell But you you see them you there. They're a type mm-hmm. You know they're just they're an unattractive type They're not attractive to women and so they try to figure out a way mm-hmm like how am I gonna do this? What's gonna be the way yeah, I got to figure out a way to stand out. This is the way I'm gonna just what what do these women want to hear they want to hear that I'm gonna say that yeah Egalitarian is great. You know someone who believes in equality is great, but as soon as you establish you're proclaiming yourself to be more interested in the opposite gender and More supportive of them than males and even though you are a male Mm-hmm that should be a red flag. That's a giant red flag. You should be into humans. I like people Mm-hmm. I like people. I like them gay. I like them straight. I like people. I like when they're nice Nice to me. I'm nice to you. That's what I like I don't want you get discriminated against in any way shape or form yeah But I don't want to pretend that one group is better than other groups except Asians when it comes to Harvard The crazy thing is with these guys though you see There's been a trend where they actually have a lot to hide and they usually are misogynistic and they usually do abuse women Well, I think very thing I think what happens is there's a certain amount of resentment that from Living this sort of like fake life and having these fake beliefs and doing so just to get to the approval of women You know and then when it doesn't work out there's anger resentment and this just just Or I think some guys put it on because it's a way of overcompensating for their own guilt Yeah, that's true, too. Probably yeah There's probably a lot of different reasons why men become feminists and very few of them are good unless they're just Their idea of what it means is different than my idea what it means my idea means look at that little sneaky fuck That's my idea. You know when I because I've just seen so many of them. Yeah, it's like look I'm sure some bank robbers are really romantic interesting poets who just decide this is a great way to make money Mm-hmm. There's got to be one You know but most of them are fucking criminals. Yeah, right and this is like how I feel about male feminists Like I'm sure there's a bunch of them out there that are really good guys and maybe through the influence of the people They've been around they've chosen to identify as a male feminist and this seems to be a good way to show that they support women and Even if they have to support women over men Look women have been fucked over for so long I'm more than willing to do that and they do it with good intentions That's entirely possible But a lot of it are creepy little dudes that are trying to get laid and they they're not attractive to women So they're trying to figure out a way to become attractive to women and they don't have the confidence to just go well Aren't we all equal aren't we all just all humans? Oh, we're all different or work on yourself to make yourself more attractive to women instead of deceiving them One of my all-time favorite tweets that I read was a guy saying I'm not going to describe myself as a feminist until women Tell me that I'm doing feminism correctly He's like more feminist than regular feminists he's like so feminine she can't thousand times Yeah, can't be a feminist to women. Tell me I'm a feminist Mistress mistress, please tell me that dude's got a ball gag on right now. He's like tightening it down He's putting himself in the shackles But then there's women like that too there's women that pretend to be one of the guys like that girl Yeah, there's always the one of the guys girl People can sense it though. Mm-hmm Like I think other guys can tell when a male when a guy is not sincere about being a male feminist and the same with Girls can tell oh, yeah, you know the big red flag with girls Girls who don't have girlfriends. Mm-hmm They're just friends with guys. I get along with guys better. Yeah, but you do I Had a friend of mine who's dating a girl like that and she all she had was male friends I was like dude I'm like get out now Like this is not gonna work. So tell me what does that mean? Girls don't like her. Yeah girls don't trust her. You can't find any girls. Yeah, that's crazy that it's crazy I'm not saying you shouldn't have some guy friends. Mm-hmm, but all your friends are guys Yeah, that's a red flag. No, I would agree with that and any guy you have a straight guy and all his friends are girls Yeah, no, I in the fuck is happening here Right. I just don't get along with guys guys are assholes. I don't like the way they talk about women. Oh Okay, all of them all of them. Oh, yeah, come on. Yeah, where are you hanging out, dude? You don't like any guys Yeah, seems weird. So what did your friend do? Oh, he got fucked around on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah She was fucking all those guys. I was gonna say I was gonna say Of course, I mean the writings on the wall. Yeah, it was ugly to the way it went down like whoa But that's how it is, you know, I mean people People are always trying to find their way in Yeah, what's what's what's my way to get the most acceptance my way to get the most happiness my way and I mean It's fairly unrelated but not necessarily to what we're talking about about Gender dysphoria about some people choosing that as a path to get a lot of attention I mean, I think there's many things that people do to get a lot of attention. There's