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Peter Boghossian is a philosophy instructor, activist, author, speaker, and atheism advocate. He is a full-time faculty member at Portland State University.
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James Lindsay is a writer, political commentator, mathematician and podcaster. His latest book, "The Queering of the American Child," co-authored with Logan Lancing, is available now.www.newdiscourses.comwww.queeringbook.com
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We really do need to get back to some kind of productive discussion, productive politics, where the far right disown their lunatics and we disown our lunatics, and we get back to work about whatever, the oceans, plastic, whatever it is that we're talking about, because right now the discourse is corrupted. We're not doing what we need to do in the academies. These people are continuing to pump out this nonsense that's totally untethered to reality. It's a huge problem. I'm sick of it. You're sick of it. We're all sick of it. We're all sick of it. We're sick of it. I'm sick of it. I've had it. I've had it with these folks. It just doesn't seem like it's sustainable. I don't think it is. It seems like some weird thing that's going to run out of energy. Well, it's eating itself. It constantly eats itself. Like we did the thing about the people of color and the black indigenous people of color. They fragmented. You see when you get into the critical race literature that it's like, okay, so you're brown or you're black, but you have slightly lighter skin, slightly darker skin, slightly darker than that, really dark. They have different levels of privilege and it's just cutting things apart. The idea though that this is going to create some kind of a coalition that can then defeat the plurality or something like that is ridiculous. So what do you see? You see this stuff starting to blow up. You see the Democrats bleed seats. They've lost like a thousand legislative seats across the US since Obama got elected in 08. How are you going to get your agenda if you don't have any legislators, if you don't have anybody elected? And so then what happens? 2016, I can't say that the reason that Trump got elected, because there's lots of reasons, had something to do with it. No, I will say I had something to do with this because every conservative person I know that's not just a reactionary is like, and I live in the Southeast, man. I know some conservatives. Most of my friends are conservatives because I don't have a choice. If I want to have friends, they're going to be conservatives. Who lives there? So I talk to them and they're like, oh yeah, they're tearing down this kind of statue. Oh yeah. And it's not like they're tearing down Confederate statues. They're tearing down Thomas Jefferson. George Washington. George Washington. Halloween's a problem. Then I didn't know. You didn't know Halloween's a problem? What are you going to for Halloween? I'm a shark. You're a shark? My kids are mermaids. Is that my problematic? Oh god, if they're mermaids and you're a shark, you're definitely taking like a dominant power position. They pick my outfit. I don't pick my outfit. I have kids. They tell me what I am. Is it an issue? I don't know. I'll try to figure out a paper for them.