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Brian Moses is a comedian, writer, creator, producer and host of Roast Battle.
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I mean that's one of the things that the Romans always knew. So make people have families. You can control them if they have families. Oh, that's fucking powerful. Yeah, you can control your family. You can control young dudes. Right. Young dudes with swords. Yeah. Or single. Like you want them to get shacked up and have kids. Right, that way they stop doing that. Yeah, and then you got to kill somebody's kids every now and then. Keep them in line. Jesus Joe. That's what they did. Bro, I mean that's what they did. They did that from time honored tradition. You killed somebody's kid to keep them in line. They did it with, they've done it in the mafia. They've done it with a lot of people. Right. I mean it's always been something that people do to put fear in people. You get people to, when you have a lot more to lose when you have a family, they look at it that way. Right. There's certain people that, I mean, when you study how to get people to listen to you and to behave and how to strike fear into populace, that's why. That's why they don't want abortion laws. Mm. Wow, that's deep. Right. This, if there is someone that is really thinking, we need, we need to make sure that people have families so that they'll be more vulnerable. Yeah. If there is someone that is following that philosophy, which is not my thought. Yeah, exactly. You said the Romans said that. But it's been around forever. Mm-hmm. They're so commonly thought of. Like a human, just human, humans born, they think that, like, oh, we have to keep families and keep them alive. Well, it's, when you talk about authoritarian figures, like people that want to have an iron fist to control the population. Mm-hmm. The last thing you want is a bunch of young, single guys running around. Yeah. With no attachments. Because that's how coups get successfully completed. Yeah. A bunch of young mercenaries just decide to take over your fucking building. Yeah. Like expendable style and shoot everybody. You don't want them. Yeah, because they have nothing to lose. Right. You want a guy who loves his wife and loves his kids and he's got something to lose. And that's how you keep a society in order. And that's why you shouldn't be getting rid of babies. No condoms, no babies, no birth control, no babies. If someone really was plotting out a culture that way, like really masterminding it and really saying that, not just knowing that it is the case that people do change when they have children, but then doing this and promoting this on purpose specifically to control people. If that was the case, yeah, they would do that. They would do that too. They would work against abortion because they would want more people to have more kids so that they can control them. That makes sense. Well, good. It's good for the South. Crazy to think that way. But it would only be like one factor. I think the major factor is religion. Because if you are pro-life and a candidate is pro-choice, in your mind, a lot of times people decide that that person is against God's law, that person wants to kill children. Right. So they almost feel compelled to vote against you if you're pro-choice. I know. But are they thinking about, well, what if this mother doesn't raise this child? Now you have this mother who is resentful of this child that she had that you guys made her have, and this child who is this loveless child now, and she's got mental illness, he's got mental illness because he's looking for his mother's love, she's like, this kid ruined my dreams, this husband didn't stay, that kind of thing. You're making these communities depressed and sad. And then you guys who said, no, you have to have that. You're not raising this kid. You're not putting money in this family's pocket. All these things you're saying are true. Yeah. It's one of those things where you could see two distinct patterns, but infinite different varieties of the world sucks because the baby is born, or the world is amazing. Right. Right. Tim Tebow says that, you know? That's the thing, man. It's true, though. Tim Tebow's awesome. It's true. I mean, you never know. You never know. But whose decision should it be, and what is it? That's the real question. What is abortion? Right. What is it? Is it killing a baby, or is it a medical procedure? Which one is it? Ooh. That's a slippery slope. That's where the debate falls in pro-choice or pro-life. It's not that these pro-choice people are evil people. No. They just don't want anybody dictating, I mean, it's not like an evil organization that's created by Satan. It's women that don't want you to tell them what to do with their reproductive system. Right. That's what it is. They want to be able to make the choice themselves. But then there's other people that are pro-life, and specifically the more militant ones, which, you know, have assassinated abortion doctors. I mean, there are people that firmly believe that even if it's just a couple of days old, it's a baby. Right. And that any sort of procedure to stop that in its place is murder. You're murdering a baby. And there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. And it's like the way they look at the loony left, and that they buy into this bullshit. Right. You know, that's a narrative that, you know, that's how they really believe. And people demonize people on both sides of it as if they're so different, and there's no way you could ever think any differently than the way you're thinking it right now. No, I think you broke it down just like, is it a medical procedure, or is it, you know, the other way? And I think that's hard to get into. It is fucking very hard. Yeah, I mean, we'll be debating that until the end of time. Well, it's one of the most human subjects, because it shows how complicated shit really is. Right. And if you try to pretend it's not, then you get into late-term abortions. And you're like, well, what's up there? Right. When does it get weird for you? Right, yeah. When does it get weird? Is it six months? Does it get weird then? Look, it's weird. Like, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to have an abortion, or should be. I'm not saying either of those things. I'm just saying to deny the weirdness. Yeah. It's a very, the nicest term that I could come up with weirdness, right? It is weird. I got a girl pregnant when I was a teenager, and she had an abortion. I'm sorry. She had a miscarriage. Nature's abortion. And then she would, I remember it was eight weeks or nine weeks, and she was flushing out chunks of what she was calling the baby. So, I mean, that's like eight to nine weeks, everybody. Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Wow. Yeah. And she shouldn't have had a baby. She was on crystal meth. I mean, that shouldn't have happened. So, thank whatever higher power did that for us. But yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, that, I mean, that's why it's so messy, and it really is messy because you don't know what is what. You know, she's like, it traumatized her. Yeah. You know? Makes sense. I mean, it's a crazy process that the human body goes through that men will never really understand, because there's never going to be an opportunity where a body grows inside your body and then comes out of your body the way a woman experiences. I mean, that's male-ing shit. Dude, women experience something that is so alien to anything that males experience. They grow a body inside of them. Yeah. It's so different. We're so different, like, in terms of how they interface with the world. They have to be nurturing. They want to protect the nest and keep everybody safe, and they're going to have a baby inside. Boom. And now they have to take care of this baby and care for it, and then the baby will become more people, and they'll start mating, and they become adults, and their babies are grown. Portal serves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These earthlings. While it comes out of their body. And for us, man, we just shoot loads. So easy. What we do when we don't have a baby, and what we do when we have a baby, is the exact same thing. Like, when you have sex with a woman and she gets impregnated, it feels like regular sex to us. And we have sex all the time, and you don't get pregnant, and then all of a sudden you are. So it's like, weird. Like, we didn't even do anything. We just had sex. We normally have sex. We had sex, and now there's an extra person. Like, whoa. But there's a lot of times, so you associate sex with pleasure. Right. Like, it is, obviously. But when you have a baby, you're like, oh, it does that? It does that, yes. That's what it does? Yeah. Sex does that. Wow. So for a man, there's no difference in what happens to his body, right? Like, when he's having sex and a baby's conceived versus when he's having sex and nothing, it's just fun. There's no difference to him. He doesn't feel a difference. Whereas a woman, literally her body will fucking grow. A person inside of you. A person with a brain that she's sharing vessels and things with. This thing's kicking inside of her. Like, that experience. It'll fuck you up. For a man, I mean, I would, I do not, like, if there was a way that you could record what it's like to be someone, and then they give you like a little chip and you would slip it in there, and I could see you, like, you would allow people all of your feelings, the way your skin feels, the way your emotions are, the way your psychology is set up, you would allow people to literally be you for a couple days. And the chip would do that? Yeah, this chip would just sit in your head and you would be that person. Yeah. I would like to feel what it's like to be pregnant. Really? Yeah. You want to feel that, like, that rip, that pain, or just like just... No, not the birth part. Okay. Fuck that. I don't want the dick. Such a straight male answer. I don't want to get fucked. I don't want to get fucked. I don't want to... Imagine if that was the only way you could feel it. But I would wonder what it would like to, first of all, be a maternal woman. I mean, I'm really curious as to what the hormones feel like, what it must feel like.